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By the way, when Tribble came in Frenchy said "He has a black eye". I guess he never saw him before either.

Question for the guys who actually saw the game: They have already surpassed football (they won a game), but SERIOUSLY: How do we look? Do we look like a contender this year? Many players that none of us have seen play since there was no feed.

Bradshaw and Sims both played for unknown schools. That is not the point. Arth did get back a lot of players after Bowden, including Kato. I don't think that really explains how bad we are.

I don't know what is in the contract and I am not a Bowden fanboy. It was just a thought - if we are paying him, and he has not taken a new HC job, maybe we can bring him back. And fire the AD. I don't care if we will never be National Champions, I want us to be respectable, which we certainly are not at the moment.

In the good old days we won a game once in a while.

My questions about the transfers is this: If these kids can not get playing time on the worst team in all of D1 Football, who do they think is going to be interested in making them an offer?

I am not a lawyer either. But I did work in New York Supreme Court for 30 years. I have no idea what the contract states. I am certain they could not require him to stay on campus as a janitor to get paid. However, if he is not currently working as a head coach, under contract somewhere (that might require this contract to be bought out?), we could quite possibly ask him to come back, and stop paying if he refuses. We are entitled to mitigate our damages. That is pretty standard. As far as Arth, if he refuses to be demoted and leaves, that is fine. Same money for us either way. At least Bowden, love him or hate him, gives hope to win some games.

At the risk of being beat on, I don't think we need a second season of Arth. It is not like we are not good. We are HORRIBLE. Every game is a blowout. There is no excuse for this.

So in other words you have not seen the contract and have no idea whether this is an option.

Do you have a copy of the contract? We would like to see it.

Missing the point. We are still paying him, we should be able to demand he work for us in the position we are paying him for.

I don't know the legality and I have no idea where or how to reach anyone at the U. But feel free to pass it along.

OK, so here is a plan: Call Bowden and tell him to report Monday to work out the remainder of his contract (if he refuses, stop paying). Name Arth as ASSISTANT HC. If he refuses, stop paying him. Since we are paying BOTH this year and next, we are entitled to make both of them work. Maybe Arth could learn enough to get a D2 job someplace.

It hurts to watch How can we be this bad?

Shoot. That means we miss the beginning of the season?

Any video stream?

I was wondering about the streaming too. Not renewing my ESPN+ unless I know for sure they are streaming our games.

How is it cheaper? The athletes still get their scholarships. We get less TV money from ESPN The team still travels to wherever it travels to. There is less or no post season money. The coaches are under contract so maybe years from now we could get cheaper coaches.

It is a fair question and something that has been bandied about here. The Football and Basketball teams are a very large part of the branding of a University. When I attended Akron we were Dll I can recall, as a lad, being impressed with schools like Clemson, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, and of course there was Darryl Royal. This is what I saw on Saturday afternoons when I turned on the TV (to say nothing of Bill Bradley playing Hoops at Princeton - he was such a HUGE star in the NYC area that every game was televised)! Before the Internet, I could never even get an Akron score. Totally ignored in all other markets. I think we made The Dance in 1986 or so, I saw an article in the NYT. That was as close as I could come to information about the Zips. Once in a while I would stop at a large newsstand and pick up a Beacon Journal or a Plain Dealer and get a box score. Many people here have framed this in terms of money. While they have a point, the two major sports are more important than that. Being a home to "big time" championship teams attracts students. It keeps the alumni happy. They make contributions. It brings ad revenue. It is a self fulfilling prophesy when it comes to recruiting. Recruiting to Akron has big challenges. It is an urban campus. It is not a glamorous place to live (remember, we are seeking athletes from all over, so they mostly live on campus in "sports" housing and have no ties to the community. Being a townie school, there is a lot of apathy as to sports. Commuter students go to class and go home. The stadium is a huge upgrade. I was only in the JAR one time on a brief visit years ago, and it was not a game day, so I never comment on how good or bad it is. Probably better than Memorial Hall, we REALLY rocked that place in the days of Len Paul and Turner and Williams. All that being said, there are a finite number of schools that offer D1 Football scholarships. A skilled coach ought to be able to get some good players. No, I do not support dropping down. The big picture is that lowers the brand and perception of the school. Football and Hoops have EVERYTHING to do with the reputation and brand. Is there anything "special" about Notre Dame or Michigan or Louisville or Indiana? NO Their biggest claim to fame is sports. When I was in grade school we learned the Notre Dame fight song! I still know the words. WHY? Because FOOTBALL. Back to reality. I know a lot of folks did not like Bowden. The reality check is that he won games, took us to two bowls, and a MAC championship game. This is after iCoach made us the worst team in D1. So you want to replace him? Fine. FIND SOMEONE BETTER. I never played or coached football at any level. But throw a deep pass on 3rd and 1 in a game you are still in? Illegal formation on a punt? This tells me this coach is not in control of the team. No offense, no defense. No OL. No special teams. This is not a team, it is a rabble. Face it, we have been blown out in EVERY game, There is no excuse for this. We offer Division One NCAA scholarships. A few of our guys get into the NFL. We may not have great players, but in my opinion we have a horrible coaching staff. Sorry for the diatribe, but this is just so frustrating. We fired a coach who brought us back from oblivion, and replaced him with a coach who is no more successful than you or I could be. AND we are paying both of them.

It is not stirring the pot to be upset about being the worst team in all of D1. AGAIN

Not sure there would be a judgement before discovery. He is not suing over the injury, although I am certain that will be an issue in the case. Let's see who shows up for depositions and what they have to say. We have no idea if Mark had made a complaint to the coach (or anyone else) prior to the incident. And no idea what the teammates would say. This is still in the what if stage.

Great point!

I am expressing my opinion. You are expressing yours. When a coach calls a long pass on 3rd and 1 and you are still in the game... When there is a penalty for illegal formation on a punt (I am 70 years old and have been watching football ost of my life. Honestly never saw that before). When the snap is a shotgun inside the 5 yard line. When a substantial number of players have left the team and entered the transfer portal. Well, you have my opinion and I have yours.

Can we please fire this "coach"? Not at the end of the season. NOW. It is clear that he is clueless.

OMG. Just forfeit the rest of the season