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So I did some googling. Mike Stoops parts his hair from left to right (in a photo facing you, the part would would be on the right). In all the pre-announcement hoopla the athletic department has put out a picture of a helmet, stadium backdrop, and silhouette of a man (to be replaced with the picture of the new coach). This silhouette, has a very defined hair part, on the right side of his head. Exactly like.....Mike Stoops. Cue conspiracy theory music.....

Nobody said he will have success but BZ and skip you both discount his success because it's at D2. Keep making whatever dumb excuses you have to so you can stay negative.

Official Toledo names Campbell head coach.

What did Brian Kelly do? Took over a successful Lakers program and continued to win, whoopity-do. That got him the CMU job, where he took a team that had been down for 7 seasons and righted the ship. Kelly's record at CMU 19-16 in three seasons, one of those being 10-4 so 9-12 the two years prior? But people consider him a little more than a good coach. Winters has a slightly above average record? He took over a team that hadn't had a winning season in a decade and hadn't had significant success since 1975. They didn't even have all 38 scholarships given out nor people willing to take them when he got there. It's funny some of you on here are "what have you done for me lately" type people yet you dismiss his current success to focus on the very early part of his career there. He took a kid that should have had talent (Joe Long, Jake Long's brother) and made him work so that he could actually show that talent. He will likely have 3 people in the NFL when everything is said done, from a D-2 school. He knows how to develop talent, he was a successful OC in the MAC. What do you people have against him?

DC/OC and all position coaches were on single year contracts. They were released and are paid through February. The only person we need to have find a job is Ianello.

Skip, so you're calling me out? LOL I guess because your belief that D-II is too low for a coach to be "significant" was blown out of the water by me and everyone else. I don't need to substantiate anything because all coaching changes are "rumors" until they are official. You look on certain boards and you talk to certain people offline and offrecord and you can find out who has asked Wayne St for permission to talk to him this year. I'm tired of certain elements making up reasons why Winters is somehow not qualified or "below" us. None of you want to face what reality is. Reality is that their our 30-40 coaches in levels below FBS and FCS that are great coaches, outstanding coaches that would succeed at our level with no problem at all, but they are overlooked. The real question is why are they overlooked. Is it because they only have to recruit 38 people instead of 85? Is it because they have to find a way to win with budgets that are less than what our soccer team operates on? Or is because this group of coaches shares something in common with Mr. Winters that seems to be a near automatic disqualifier for FBS football? You guys figure it out.

If you are saying that this is true, then you must know who they are. Would you kindly share the schools with us? Toledo, Akron, Arkansas St., and he was a long shot for some of the bigger schools (probably because of equal opportunity), plus there are FCS schools that have given him a look. His name is not mentioned as much because he's so rooted in the Akron job.

I say we count the UNC championship as our own, because without our guy they don't win it. So good job and congrats to Speas, and back to back titles for the Zips! (Once a Zip, always a Zip)

You can't translate how guys will work out at different levels. Lee Owens did nothing here and he is running a very successful program at the D2 level. While Winters has done a great job turning around Wayne State, I have no idea how he will translate into a D1 coaching job. Nothing is guaranteed ever. But skip is discounting success because the level despite others doing less with more and then finding success at the FBS level.

Skip, let me get this straight. Brian Kelly takes a very decent Geand Valley St wins national championships goes to CMU and wins. Winters has taken Lake Erie (that is what Wayne was equivalent to when he got there) and has them playing in the national championship. Winters knows how to get it done, stop with this "so what it's D2" BS. Chip Kelly went from FCS to BCS, so did Tressel. Those schools and their supporters had the same problems. Winters is getting interest from 4 or 5 schools at our level, get over yourself.

If WSU wins the whole thing you have to give it to Winters. His team just barely got in, and have found ways to beat superior programs. That is what we need as a coach. Even without that though it will be hard not to say Winters hands down.

Wow...I'm in the Top 0.1%? Sweet. #occupyCK? Ewwww

But Matt if UT screws you over, there is a very nice OC job available for you at the University of Akron.

What I have noticed is that most names actually mentioned for interviews (not speculated by us) have had strong Akron ties. Tressel - GA and alumnus Moorhead - OC during our best time Johnson - QB and alumnus Winters - OC during our upswing, RB and alumnus Campbell has area ties being from Massillon and attending Mount Union. But We know 3 of these five were interviewed and one offered the job. I think Porter and Dambrot (along with Tressel) all pointed out the importance of being tied to the school. Look at the last hire that TW mad. Rembielek(sp?) has very strong ties to Akron. Porter is the exception to the rule, but he kind of fell in love with the place so he has quite a bit of loyalty now. Loyalty breeds passion and passion is what you need to succeed at anything.

Stick in there St. V fan I hear a St. V alum will be taking over the program shortly.

Thanks for that link. There are some positive points in there that could work in DI and are needed at UA, such as: Winters built a base by "building it the right way." He tore down a wall of doom by changing the mind-set of players, their friends and people in the administration. Wayne was viewed as a losing program. Winters did not want people around who felt that way. He convinced recruits that the school was a hidden gem and wanted players willing to redshirt and wait their turn. The one glaring negative in the story was this: Now he's a hot commodity and is rumored to be a finalist for the University of Akron job. Winters says he has no intention of leaving Wayne State for that job. Now you might expect any coach to say they aren't interested in leaving a school while they're in the middle of chasing a national championship. But you never really know what personal reasons someone might have for not wanting to take an opportunity that everyone else thinks they'd jump at. Anyway, the mystery should be solved within the next few weeks. Regarding the "no intention of leaving"....... It is a pretty benign comment, and, as you point out, is pretty much what you'd expect of someone in the midst of a championship run with his current team. Could also be that his agent has advised him to use those words to give him some leverage for negotiating salary during discussions with Akron. Let's not forget he is competing for a National Championship and he is only a finalist for the job. If he says "can't wait to get home" that kind of ruins the morale of the players and if he gets passed over for Johnson or someone else he has less leverage with Wayne State for more money in his contract extension. Also it limits his ability to field offers from other schools like Toledo or Arkansas St.

Toledo Blade said all reports are that Campbell is next in line to take over Toledo.

I agree. Hire me a coach that will win now. I don't care what anybody says about our cupboard. There is no reason that if we had an "awful coach" the last two seasons that we shouldn't expect a "good hire" to win us 4-5 games coming in. And it should take a maximum of 3 seasons to start competing for bowl eligibility. If we have a 1-2 win season next year I am done with this program.

Great, we've already laid excuses down for 3 years of crappy football again.

Footballscoop is now hedging themselves saying "to be clear, we aren't saying this is a done deal".

Counting on that National Championship ring?

Since the whole thing involves schools in every state, that means the whole process is part of interstate commerce. That is very much the jurisdiction of the Federal Government. Not to mention ESPN is teetering on Anti-trust issues when it is telling conferences what to do and manipulating conferences that are under current contract to grab teams to decrease the value of other conferences. If Goodyear had a supplier under contract and it told that supplier to by a section of its competitor so that it could get a better contract, and this resulted in a bad outcome for Bridgestone or it made the other supplier less appealing to Bridgestone, Anti-trust would all over that in a second.

Akron: Sources continue to tell us to look for Paul Winters (head coach at Wayne State) to wind up at Akron. Winters' team is playing this weekend in the D-II semifinals. Could be why the long drawn out process. Hope he is recruiting for Akron while prepping to win a National Championship.

I don't think the candidates with current jobs would appreciate being on an announced short list. Either way we need to move faster as we are getting passed every day in the coaching carousel.

Tired of all these schools hiring around us while we sit on our hands. At least announce a short list or something.