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It was on several news media outlets when Nebraska cancelled our payday game against them. I've seen several anti-football articles that complain about the costs of football, but they always forget to include the revenue from the FBS games, the week night games, and the bowl games. If that's the criteria for having a football program, there would only be 5 or 6 college football programs left. Nobody has ever claimed the university has ever had a noticeable marketing campaign, especially when it comes to sports. Despite that, shall we compare football ticket sales to the other sports. Mens basketball? Mens soccer? Or all the other programs that don't even charge for admission? I'll wait.

I found some much better sources to get game by game stats. Chris Bassett game logs JT Brubaker game logs MLB upcoming starters Akron Zips alumni It's hard to tell how many other Zips are active in the minor leagues and independant leagues, with everything being shut down. it looks like Devan Ahart and James Meeker would still be active. it looks like Dom Iero hung up the spikes.

I'd be interested where you get your information from, because everything I have heard and read says that the P5 "sacrafice" games and the ESPN Tuesday/Thursday night games cover not only the football program, but a big chunk of the athletic dept. budget. So if you want to drop those games, drop a division, then you're looking at loss of scholarships for most if not all athletes. Which would be really ignorant IMO because we have a tournament quality mens D1 basketball program and a championship winning D1 men's soccer program. To name two. You're castrating yourself, unless you really want to play Bluffton and Marietta. Akron did that in the 1800's. The whole university is hemorrhaging money, athletics is just one part. An very visible part, and making it an easy target. The 0'fer season doesn't help, and makes everyone forget the bowl games we went to the last few years (that paid seven figures). Football critics point to the attendance at the monsoon game last year, conveniently forgetting 90% of the sporting events wish they had that many paying fans... If you want to make football your target, you need to understand how other the sport's bread is buttered... Student fees? Yes they are a crime. I was a non-traditional student, so paid for parking. And I paid for the busses I never used. I never used the bowling alley, the theater, the pool hall, the indoor basketball courts, the climbing wall, the gym, the activities, I could go on all day. All of those fees I paid for stuff I never used, so I don't want to hear about athletics fees. That was the one fee I actually was able to take advantage of. The answer doesn't start with raping or eliminating the football program. It's actually the one program that brings in more than it spends.

I wonder what the pandemic will do to enrollment. The last time the Zips didn’t play football was World War 2...

The Missouri Valley Conference (FCS, includes YSU) suspends fall sports.

IMO step one is pulling football out of the NCAA and form a new organization like the NAIA, but for bigger schools. That should drop the school’s Title IX requirements for football. How many women scholarships/sports would that cut? They could sign their own network deals, allow a post season tournament and/or bowl games... We can dream...

I always thought that this market would. There’s been talk and attempts. Now there’s a modern stadium of perfect size not owned by the NFL (Tom Benson Stadium). Canton had an arena team for awhile, but that was too gimmicky for the meat and potatoes fan in this region. If you look at other minor league sports, NE Ohio has four minor league baseball teams, and a G League basketball team. The Canton/Akron baseball team has been here 30 years, They could garner attention by paying homage to Canton being the birthplace of pro football and Akron being the first pro football champions. And I gotta think the U would be very interested in talking rental of the Info. And collecting parking fees. I think it would work. Esp a league that has televised games.

This is the biggest news with biggest implications in our school’s history. Personally I don’t mind multiple threads at the moment...

I’m afraid you’re right. More cuts, and without the FBS money means even more cuts. Title IX is going to obliterate men’s sports. I have no words...

Well crap...

There are programs at Akron I couldn't care less about. I don't constantly lobby for their demise.

The XFL has nine lives. Duane “The Rock” Johnson is now the proud owner of a slightly used football league. https://www.espn.com/xfl/story/_/id/29588303/dwayne-rock-johnson-investor-group-agree-buy-xfl-15m

The game is not scheduled on MLB or the Fox channels. But the CATV schedules often change.

Fingers crossed!!!

Welp. I already lost track of the "kids" with everything else going on. So I bookmarked a couple links to check in on our fellow alum when we have a moment https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/brubajt01.shtml https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bassich01.shtml https://www.mlb.com/probable-pitchers

Ohio prohibits fans at contact sports games If true, this is the bad news we’ve been waiting for...

Unless the NFL builds a minor league, yeah right, if the NCAA maintains its amateur status, where are they going to play? Do they think the NFL will draft them right out of high school and put them on the roster while they develop X number of years?

That got me thinking. There are facilities that could host four football games at once without fans. WWOS has four football playing fields, the MLS finishes up August 11. There are 16 games per week (without byes). That's four games per week per field. There is one game on Thursday, three game times on Sunday, and one on Monday. Double up Thursday and Monday and you have 16 slots. And don't think the NFL isn't watching the college situation very closely, ready to pounce on those three Saturday time slots the minute the NCAA cancels the season. Add three time slots, and you only have a handful of doubles, and your weeknight games are single.

I studied a lot of women in college. Wish someone would have told me I could get credits for it...

Zero. Sad day but MLB is showing us that traveling city to city is not going to work. The bubble used by NBA, NHL, and MLS has had much better results so far. But that’s not going to work with students. Our one hope for football is if the NFL follows the bubble concept and not MLB’s.

Now factor in a community college “right across the street” where you can get a degree for a fraction of the cost. Or Wayne College for that matter, now has 4 year degrees. I would have never taken a class at main campus if they had bachelor’s degrees at Wayne 10 years ago. Now factor in a generation of people who would rather be behind a screen than actually interacting with other people. They can sit on their couch now and get a degree with their laptop. Again at a fraction of the cost. If you do go to a traditional program, every time you turn around they have their hands in your pockets for another fee. And they look around and wonder why enrollment is dropping. Traditional college doesn’t add up.

The Big Ten has a TV contract with Fox worth $2.64 billion dollars. Not counting revenue from the Big Ten Network. By my figures that's over $34 million per year from TV. Ohio State games are broadcast on 68 radio stations (including 2 in Akron). Those stations pay for the rights to those games. Ohio State can play football games without ticket and parking and concession revenue. MAC teams don't have that revenue stream. They need the tickets, the parking, the concessions, the souvenir sales, etc to keep the doors open. That also shows us how far the Power Five and the "Other Five" conferences are apart.

Chris Bassett starts for the A’s today at 3:40. I’m at work, will catch up with him later.

Still waiting... It's easy to criticize someone else's response when you don't put yourself out there to be criticized. I learned a lot about you two.

I do know the pros have the choice to play or not, and several in each league have opted out. i would hope student athletes would have that sam option.