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				Back when cutting sports seemed like the abyss...
Spin replied to DannyHoke's topic in Akron Zips Football
Ask Niles, Ohio - 
	
	
				Back when cutting sports seemed like the abyss...
Spin replied to DannyHoke's topic in Akron Zips Football
I don’t see how “he” failed. He didn’t recruit the seniors, juniors, or sophomores. We’re not going to see his recruiting until maybe 2021. Knee jerk reactions to how Bowden’s third to last recruiting class played will only ensure we stay in last place. The financial side has already been thoroughly covered. - 
	
	
				Back when cutting sports seemed like the abyss...
Spin replied to DannyHoke's topic in Akron Zips Football
I keep hearing how the payday games sustain football, if not the whole athletic Dept. How it draws network money, sells a heel of a lot more tickets, corporate sponsorships, we played payday games to PAY the left over salary, blah blah blah. And I keep hearing the football haters complain that it is such a financial drain on the athletic Dept. How exactly is it possible a program can break even, and yet take millions of dollars out of university coffers. Sounds like jealousy to me... - 
	
	
				Back when cutting sports seemed like the abyss...
Spin replied to DannyHoke's topic in Akron Zips Football
Easy now. Jared inherited a perennial NCAA tournament team and took it to losing 70% of its games last year. still haven’t heard a single call for soccer to go bye bye despite the recent performance. Hold on. Let me crack open a beer before the fanatics start pumping their chests... - 
	
	
				Back when cutting sports seemed like the abyss...
Spin replied to DannyHoke's topic in Akron Zips Football
A one time five million dollar donation is a drop in the bucket against the FBS playoff teams. They’re reportedly operating on $100,000,000 annual budgets. Do you have that many poker chips to gamble with? - 
	
	
				Back when cutting sports seemed like the abyss...
Spin replied to DannyHoke's topic in Akron Zips Football
It’s probably for the better that football was spared. What would they have to whine about then? Every. Single. Day. - 
	
	
				Back when cutting sports seemed like the abyss...
Spin replied to DannyHoke's topic in Akron Zips Football
Well if you can make an annual nine figure donation to the football program, we could eventually compete with the Alabama’s and Ohio States and the Clemsons. Nobody here would be mad that you did. Until then, we’re just happy to still have a program. Well, some of us. ? - 
	
	
				Back when cutting sports seemed like the abyss...
Spin replied to DannyHoke's topic in Akron Zips Football
Many forget football still gets more butts in the seats even in a bad year. And more TV and advertising money. Those jealous of its budget don’t consider that. - 
	
	
				Back when cutting sports seemed like the abyss...
Spin replied to DannyHoke's topic in Akron Zips Football
I am all for the MAC cutting scholarships. Maintain your FBS status, take your payday whooping (or two), go to the Podunk Bowl when you have a good year, take the TV money, and have a self-sustaining program. IF the whole conference does same. - 
	
	
				Back when cutting sports seemed like the abyss...
Spin replied to DannyHoke's topic in Akron Zips Football
Dropping to FCS adds travel expenses to conference games. 14 programs flying to the Dakotas every year runs up a heck of a bill. - 
	
	
				Future of College Men's Soccer
Spin replied to Zip_ME87's topic in Akron Zips NCAA Championship Soccer
Oh boy. Nothing like taking a squirt gun to a shootout. - 
	
	
				Future of College Men's Soccer
Spin replied to Zip_ME87's topic in Akron Zips NCAA Championship Soccer
Question. Is losing the MAC tournament a good thing or a bad thing. On one hand we can go to the NCAA with fresh legs. On the other, we could always have a bad regular season game or two and need that automatic bid from the tourney... - 
	
	
				Back when cutting sports seemed like the abyss...
Spin replied to DannyHoke's topic in Akron Zips Football
It’ll be used. Plus we have a club tennis team. Anything to keep people from getting fat I’m all for. - 
	
	
				Back when cutting sports seemed like the abyss...
Spin replied to DannyHoke's topic in Akron Zips Football
I’ll take 1 win with a roster of underclass men (8 fresh) in a first year program with a reported one full scholarship over what football game us. We were only blown out once or twice. - 
	
	
				Future of College Men's Soccer
Spin replied to Zip_ME87's topic in Akron Zips NCAA Championship Soccer
Baseball is using a new self-sustaining model. The team does not award university-funded scholarships. The ballpark was/is being refurbished with contributions and corporate sponsorships are covering other costs. And they're not flying south for early season games like before. I have heard that it is designed to be self sustaining right off the bat, or that it will be self sustaining within five years. But either way, that is the model. More college sports should work that way... As far as entertaining the students, that's actually not the main reason for college athletics. We're not talking about a very active student body when it comes to attending any of the sports that I have seen. Besides that, not all students like bowling , shooting pool or darts, going to movies, going to the gym, competing in intramurals, or any of the other activities. - 
	
	
				Back when cutting sports seemed like the abyss...
Spin replied to DannyHoke's topic in Akron Zips Football
I'm leaning that way too. I hate to see anything cut, but those make the most sense. Men's track might be in a better situation if there wasn't so much damage to the outdoor track. - 
	Strange, they haven’t updated the gozips schedule yet.
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	You may be right. I remember way back when the chap went to this bowl, the runner up to that bowl, next best record to another...
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	The top three are. Check out the chart.
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	Not the most recent...
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	That just one example of NEOhio supporting a half-decent football team. Are you going to nitpick the rest? Jeez, the simple fact that the Browns are still in business should tell you something. LOL
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	They absolutely do. The MAC has six contracts with bowl games A teams record in the MAC determines which bowl game you go to. Or in our case, which MAC teams we watch in them.
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	complains about football attendance vehemently defends college soccer
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	I'm starting to come around on playing those games. From all the comments here they do appear to make football at least a break-even sport. I said earlier I didn't like them because they can screw up our bowl eligibility, but that's not true since the bowl games are contracted by the conference, and are based on conference record, not overall record. The program, properly run, can be competitive, we saw that in 2015 and 2017. Just a few years ago. You need the right people in place, and consistently put together winning seasons. Like I said in an earlier post, I've seen 50,000+ at a Zips home game before. This region will support a decent program. And help the entire athletic dept break even.
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	They gave up ticket sales chasing a few ESPN2 dollars. it's not worth it, especially when you're trying to build a brand.
 
