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Strange, they haven’t updated the gozips schedule yet.

You may be right. I remember way back when the chap went to this bowl, the runner up to that bowl, next best record to another...

The top three are. Check out the chart.

Not the most recent...

That just one example of NEOhio supporting a half-decent football team. Are you going to nitpick the rest? Jeez, the simple fact that the Browns are still in business should tell you something. LOL

They absolutely do. The MAC has six contracts with bowl games A teams record in the MAC determines which bowl game you go to. Or in our case, which MAC teams we watch in them.

complains about football attendance vehemently defends college soccer

I'm starting to come around on playing those games. From all the comments here they do appear to make football at least a break-even sport. I said earlier I didn't like them because they can screw up our bowl eligibility, but that's not true since the bowl games are contracted by the conference, and are based on conference record, not overall record. The program, properly run, can be competitive, we saw that in 2015 and 2017. Just a few years ago. You need the right people in place, and consistently put together winning seasons. Like I said in an earlier post, I've seen 50,000+ at a Zips home game before. This region will support a decent program. And help the entire athletic dept break even.

They gave up ticket sales chasing a few ESPN2 dollars. it's not worth it, especially when you're trying to build a brand.

I'm a soccer fan too, from the days of the Cleveland Cobras of the old ASL, to the Cleveland Force, Canton Invaders, and Cleveland Crunch from indoor pinball, the Cleveland Caps (I know the team owner), the Columbus Crew and CLE SC. I'm not abdicating shutting down the soccer program. I have no idea where you got that idea. This isn't us vs. them.

Ticket sales count when you're bean counting. This is a financial crisis, not a head count of visitors to campus.

One week everyone wants football to play 2 or 3 "payday" slaughters to bankroll the athletic department. This week we should cut football altogether because of attendance (even though more people STILL go to football games than any other sport). I'm glad the forum doesn't make the decisions in the Athletic Dept. (or anywhere else).

A couple years ago, I argued the other side. But since then the bottom has fallen out. Performance wise and money wise. Yes it's possible for the Zips to rebuild, but with the budget cuts we know are coming? Accelereated by the Cononavirus? When you have these Zips fans calling for its end? I want football to win as much as anybody here. And a hell of a lot more than the "fans" who want football gone to protect the budget of their favorite programs. If it's a realist MAC with programs playing within their means, that's great. If it means playing Division 1 FCS with other regional rivals, I'm in. TBH, I went to a lot more Canton Charge games this season than Cleveland Cavaliers. I had equal access to be paid the same to go to both, it wasn't because of cheap tickets. I get to a point where watching a team lose 3/4 of their games just isn't fun anymore.

If Akron cuts football over soccer I’m done with the university. And I’m not the only one. Even last year going 0-fer, I’d put football’s attendance average up against any other program in the school. I’ll go a step further. I would put attendance of the Acme Zip games (43,171 in 1971) against any home games in the FBS era. Winning football sells here in football country. It doesn’t matter what level it is. Cathedral Latin hosted Massillon at Municiple Stadium and drew 51,000 fans. Two High school teams drew more fans than the Bengals averaged. Put the program on a level they can compete, and watch attendance climb. We have high schools with more butts in the seats than many Zips games. And it’ll be a lot more fun. More fun than watching this crap, and listening to fans with delusions of grandeur complaining.

That depends on how recent you want to go. Last year men’s soccer won 39% of their games. Maybe Track should stay instead of soccer.?

Is that when we finally do something about Wuhan, China? The worlds bat eating disease factory?

So if/when the university decides to drop X number of programs, what happens next? The programs have awarded scholarships, are those rescinded? What about the contracts to play non-conference games against other programs, do they need to fulfill those? How many years out are there games scheduled? Is there a requirement to play X number of seasons in the MAC after announcing closure? Is there a substantial penalty for early withdrawal? Or is it all over effective immediately? What are the costs of the broken contracts with the conference and other competitors? I assume with the contributions recently made, and the upcoming construction at the ballpark, that non-scholarship (from the university itself) baseball would continue. This is all new to me.

reboot

Tonight I'm watching the old TV show "Coach" on "Antenna TV" network, and coach Hayden tries to get rid of a pain in the butt assistant by referring him to an opening at, you guessed it. University of Akron.

Because Akron and Youngstown are too far a way to drive a tractor to class.

Got a tweet the U is taking bids on work at the baseball stadium. I know that will pee some off, but to me it Sounds like it might not be complete Armageddon. They might be looking at renting it out.

Mike Devine just took $110,000,000.00 from higher education (state colleges) to help balance the state budget. I think we’re screwed. 10 different ways.

The article shows this is not just an Akron problem. And it shows some of the responses from different people. Different perspective.

There is some expansion damage to the wall surrounding the field, especially at the base of the “grassy knoll”. It’s to be expected in this climate. The U thought the construction company was suppose to come back and cover that as it happens. The construction company disagreed. Time for a flop-out in court.

...or had a little fun with it. Have the kid come in for a visit, print him a jersey, throw the ball around. Hook him up with eSports for a little Madden. Get some positive pub...