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12 hours ago, ZachTheZip said:
The fact that Terry Pluto is excited about Arth is perhaps the most concerning thing to come out of this whole coaching change.
Never been a Pluto fan even when he was with the Leakin' Urinal. Wonder if he will ever get to the Baseball HOF like his 'buddy' at the ABJ, Sheldon Ocker? It seems Pluto writes the same articles week after week, year after year but just changes some of the names. If you listen to him on WKSU he sounds as if he is preaching to the 'unwashed'.
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16 hours ago, NWAkron said:
If you ask someone in the athletic dept they would tell you what a bad partner Acme was. The Albrechts wanted the publicity AND the $.
Thats the way it works. You get something you give something. That Bowl was never close to being full for any games other than Acme Zip. Thats when the team was actually consistently good and going to the DII playoffs. If the University didn't take advantage of having all those people in the seats that was its problem. Sell concessions,souvenirs etc. Acme wasn't getting all the money from ticket sales. Just gotta say it was amazing to see close to 40,000 butts in the seats at that old place.
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13 hours ago, Captain Kangaroo said:
If someone promised to pay me $600,000, I ain’t retiring and forfeiting it. Especially not to the place that fired me.
Bowden would have been happy to coach the next two seasons, but UA told him to hit the bricks. UA knew the deal...they wrote it.
If if you want to play “big boy” football, you know eating the last two years of a fired coach’s contract is part of the deal. A $600,000 dinner bill is chump change in D-1 football. If it isn’t for UA, it isn’t Bowden’s fault.
If Arth doesn’t pan out, the buyout will probably be $1,000,000. I hope he pans out ...not to save the money...but because it would be fun. It’s been a long time since Zips football has been bandwagon-inducing fun.
I understand what you are saying. Don't agree with it but I understand. Don't know if you have made millions of dollars over the years coaching football,appearing on TV. Maybe you have made millions of dollars over the years over the years in your chosen vocation. I know if I had gotten 'fired' from my job the amount on my pay check would be $0.00. No choice to retire and still get a ton of bucks if I didn't do my job the way my employer thought I should. I'm sure Bowden would have been happy to coach two more seasons. His employer didn't like the way he was doing his job. A significant number of fans felt the same way.
I know the practice when hiring coaches is that unless you terminate 'for cause' the coach gets the rest of the money in the contract even if he is not performing up to expectations. Thats not the fault of The University of Akron or of Terry Bowden. Thats a fault of the system. Maybe thats what upsets me about this kind of crap. Option? Bowden didn't need all that money to 'survive'. Could the University and Bowden have negotiated a smaller buyout? Sure. But $600,000 for this school is a huge chunk of change. Akron has wanted to 'play big boy football' for years Unfortunately, for the University its ATM might not have enough cash to continue to do so in the future unless the program starts performing at a significantly higher level.
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2 hours ago, ewbrooman1 said:
A little light reading about Arth's contract.
Think this was suggested already.
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5 hours ago, ZipsVoice said:
I don't see that happening. Kosar has never been an Akron guy. No history with the program, the U, the coaches up till now. And I don't see the class of 2019 and upwards being that overall knowledgable about Bernie, nor care. These kids didn't grow up watching him, just hearing Pops and Grandpops talking about him. Maybe raise awareness to donors, but not to recruits and their families. Just my opinion, Lee...
Beside winning games,this program needs to get fans interested again. I'm not talking about the students. If the team wins, a FEW more of them will show up. These kids never have been a dependable fan base. Williams has to get the community involved. Like they did with the Acme Zip game decades ago. A known name like Kosar would at least get some of the older crowds attention. Look ,this program has never been a real big draw. The most attendance was decades ago at the Bowl at the Acme Zip games. Used to 'fill the Bowl' at least for one game. And, they were winners back then. The football program is approaching a crossroads over the next few years. Better do what they can if they want to save it!
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8 minutes ago, NWAkron said:
We have Troy and UAB at home next year?
Looks like it. UAB decimated Northern Illinois last night! Hope they are losing a lot of people. Troy also home. UMass on the road.
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On 12/17/2018 at 1:02 PM, Cykron said:
Seems odd for Bowden to stay around in any meaningful capacity, particularly with a young coach who needs to establish his own identity properly.
Once the decision was made by Williams I wish Bowden had at least offered to retire. He certainly doesn't need the money Akron is going to have to pay him to maintain his lifestyle. He can go back to TV or maybe get a job at a lower level school. I agree that this is a situation the new AD and new coach probably do not want OR need. This needs to be Williams' and Arth's program. Don't need any 'ghosts'. They sink or swim with it.
I would heartily suggest that Akron fans read the Crain's Business article about the severe financial issues the University has in general and athletics has specifically.
That article makes it appear that Williams and The University need to succeed here on the field and financially or there may be bigger changes coming.
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Hopefully people won't get too bent out of shape if next season,especially the non-conference portion is rocky. Its going to take playing some 'real' games not just scrimmages to see how players are actually going to respond to the new staff and the new 'system'. We should all know that from experience.
Any information on length of contract? He gets 5 years unless there is another Ianello debacle.It does appear that if he can bring some of his own key recruits that there is at least enough serviceable talent left on the roster that an entire rebuild won't be necessary. I am waiting to see what he can do with the offense in general and Nelson and Ramart specifically. Wonder if he prefers a scrambler or more of a pocket guy. He will certainly have to improve the anemic run game by working on the O-line.
Also,still want to know if Williams is going to try to get Kosar involved in the program somehow to try to raise awareness.
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16 hours ago, dre22era said:
Bernie Kosar in attendance
So Kosar shows up in person to support this guy. And,apparently has a history with him from the earliest. Wonder if Williams has something in mind as far as having Bernie somehow associated with the program. Still a whole lot of people around here who remember what he and the Browns did in the '80's. Even if he would work with the QB's in the offseason or do some PR for the football program. That would certainly help raise the profile a bit.
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10 minutes ago, UAZipster0305 said:
Solid post. Sometimes a more prestigious title can justify a pay cut. There are more things valuable to a job than just the money. Independence, creativity, stability, and location all come to mind. Who knows what Getsy felt about those things, but it was a conversation worth having . After Bowden's next year, if more of the same, I would have backed the AD making Getsy an offer that was comparable to Bowden's...provided a financial solution could be found not involving the football program.
Amen. When 80+ academic programs get cut, we are at that point. Unfortunately, I think we should go as far as to consider suspending football and doing the same for a Title IX commensurate number of women's programs that have not been successful. Once the University has financially recovered, these programs could be reinstated. The discontinuation and subsequent reinstatement after a few years absence has worked miracles for UAB's football program.
I wasn't really referring to getting rid of sports programs like football,b.ball etc. Was thinking more about 'moving down' to a different level of competition that would require a lesser financial obligation. But, thats a wait and see situation. Hopefully,the program will improve over the next few seasons.
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1 hour ago, 94zipgrad said:
He also spent 3 years in NFL with Colts as Peyton Manning’s back up & is very close with him & was a reference for Arth.
Arth was not my first choice but I am going to give him a chance.
I do like the fact the Arth has a strong background as a QB especially at the professional level. One would think that by being a backup to Manning that some knowledge about QB play specifically and offensive play generally would rub off. Maybe he can improve the caliber of play at that position here. Here is hoping.
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1 hour ago, UAZipster0305 said:
This is a potential disaster. No real notable credentials and we expect this guy to outshine Bowden? Are you kidding me?! AND we have to buy out his other contract? Amidst a financial crisis that has resulted in significant academic reductions, this is criminal. At least we aren't hearing about what a great "recruiter" he is. The AD and football program no longer have my support or confidence. They are both detrimental to the overall best interests of UA.
As evidence by the reactions here, this hire does nothing to inject excitement into the fan base, which is ironic given that this was part of the justification for Bowden being fired. Sounds like the same kind of logic used in explaining the programs cuts while admitting they don't actually save UA money. Something universally toxic seems to be afoot.
I could have supported Getsy being hired, but not a guy who has no experience at this level and whose only head coaching experience includes taking a good FCS program and making it worse while carrying player injuries as an excuse. An excuse that was not allowed for Bowden during one down season after several seasons of success. Oh the hypocrisy!
I too had hoped Getsy would be the guy. Even e-mailed some people at the Athletic Department. Don't know for sure but, if Getsy was making the published $600,00/year at MSU it would have been real hard for him to walk away from that. He will get an HC position in the future. Not as positive about Bowden's overall record after his time as you are. But, on the surface this seems to be a different hire than Ianello. Certainly the talent left on the team is better than when Ianello left. But,we have to see who bails.
As far as exciting the fan base if the program starts winning consistently more fans will pay attention. Thats the only way over time that will happen.
If finances are that much of a hinderance it might be time to look at 'downsizing' the football program before the next guy is hired.
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27 minutes ago, LZIp said:
Everyone should give him a chance and support him 100% until its determined we shouldn't. We as a fan base need to be better. It'll only make us more attractive in the future. I'm not much a fan of media myself, but there seems to be plenty of approval from the move in that realm.
As I said previously. No matter who had gotten the job he gets 5 years. Over .500 in the MAC and a couple of firsts in the division after 5 years. Thats better than we have seen in along time.
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12 hours ago, dre22era said:
Akron Hoban HS coach Tim Tyrrell just won 4 straight State Championship in 6 years. Did we even make him an offer?
We have a powerhouse in our backyard and don't even take advantage
I would rather see Arth recruit AND GET some of the top talent from Hoban.That would do a number of positive things for the program.
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On 12/13/2018 at 1:19 PM, Captain Kangaroo said:
I just fired the coaching staff that won the MAC East in 2017. How are you going to make me look like I made the right decision?
I'll show up with an offense that looks lie it knows what it is doing.
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On 12/4/2018 at 11:19 AM, Balsy said:
What now?
Doing anything MEANINGFUL?
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3 hours ago, Zipmeister said:
Most division II guys are two stars, most division III guys aren't.
Seems like Williams had pretty much made up his mind. Looks like he wanted a guy with NFL experience. Wanted somebody who was familiar with this part of the country. And wanted somebody UofA could afford. He gets 5 years. Has to be over .500 in the MAC.
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Except for the Ianello train wreck,if I am not mistaken, Owens, Brookhart and as we know Bowden got more than 5 years.
If AFTER 5 years Arth does not have a a total record in the MAC OVER .500 and has not won the East Div. at least 2 times you can start looking for another HC. Only the MAC record counts!
Thats where they play.They need to be competitive every year IN THE MAC. They need to beat OU, Buffalo,Miami,KSU,NIU, Toledo....etc,etc. If they win 5 in the MAC they can still get to some obscure bowl game.
I hope he has some really good assistants lined up. He has some talent on this roster,DEPENDING on which players BAIL on him. This is more like a Brookhart situation than an Ianello situation.
Hit the ground running or lose more fan support. I am hopeful that when I buy my season tix for next year I will be seeing a more competitive MAC program.
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6 hours ago, ewbrooman1 said:
So UA will pay about a million dollars total for Bowden not to coach AND to buy out Arth to leave UTC to coach Zips. Apparently the university has more money than they let on.
Barf!
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26 minutes ago, Akron1 said:
According to Football Scoop...
Akron: Mississippi State assistant head coach / run game coordinator / running backs coach Charles Huff has interviewed for the Akron head coaching job, Bruce Feldman tweets. Feldman also shares that Texas running associate head coach / running backs coach / running backs coach Stan Drayton is also “getting consideration” for the job.
Maybe Moorehead is pushing him?
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4 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said:
I heard a Miss. State guy was in town and just assumed it was Getsy.
Hope so!
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Nice topic. I have no experience in supervising anything other than a bunch of parole officers on my last job.
1)Recruiting: What parts of the country do you see as essential to recruit successfully to upgrade and maintain a talent level that will keep the program competitive in the MAC season after season?
2) Current talent level: What is your assessment of the talent level of the current roster? Be specific to each unit...offense,defense special teams. Which unit is it essential to upgrade first?
3) Assistants: If hired,do you have names of potential assistants with experience in recruiting,scholarships,academic requirements who could be willing to start immediately?
4) What do you feel are your strengths and weaknesses as a potential head coach? What do you think have been your biggest 'mistakes' as a coach at any level? What did you do to correct those situations?
5) Discipline: Scenario: You have a talented player who is not a good 'citizen' or teammate. Tell me what steps you would take to try to remediate that situation.
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On 12/10/2018 at 2:09 PM, NWAkron said:
Whose best interests? The ADs? I would hope he would make decisions in his best interests. Making a bad decision (which could include doing nothing) would conversely not be in his best interest. (Referring to 03/05's post)
You would think if an AD makes sound personnel decisions(coaches,assistants ect.) that would benefit the programs he/she/oversees as well as himself/herself. Thats what good administrators do in ANY line of work.
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On 12/9/2018 at 9:01 PM, Sergeant Zip said:
Pretty cool article on JB57
The 'Heat Seeking Missle'!
Welcome Tom Arth!
in Akron Zips Football
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Good for him. He won't get caught up in all the Twitter BS. Too many instances where coaches/players think they are 'invisible' on Twitter and it bites them in the ass. The guy in the White House is a perfect example. There is NO requirement that anybody be on social media!