
Lee Adams
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4 hours ago, GJGood said:
Just wondering...How important is a northeast Ohio connection if the prospective coach has been successful in the past in more geographically talent deprived areas?
If the University is putting an emphasis on bringing in more students from Ohio due to finances seems it would be quite important. I am not just referring to Akron high schools. But a coach here has to be able to get the HS coaches to encourage kids to look at Akron more closely. There are certain positions which can be filled with good athletes from within Ohio. Skill position players will be harder to bring here because if they are really good they go to the P5 schools. Gotta keep good HS talent here. A head coach with few or no connections in Ohio is gonna find it much harder to talk to the HS coaches.
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7 hours ago, NWAkron said:
No leaks in the investigation...er...search. Benefit of search firm. We don't have multiple staff members and their assistants researching candidates, making phone calls.
Thanks, Bob Mueller.
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On 12/8/2018 at 12:25 PM, UAZipster0305 said:
My point exactly. I feel this decision was made more towards personal gain than the University's and program's best interests in mind.
At this level,coaches and AD's are normally looking for their next job at a more prestigious school. Bowden may have been the exception due to age and prior experiences. Most younger,ambitious people in college sports seem to be looking to move up if possible. Other AD's here have done it.
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13 hours ago, ewbrooman1 said:
So the leading candidate LW has zeroed in on is a coach that moved up two levels and took over a 36-16 team over 4 years and turned them into a 9-13 team that finished this year losing 5 of its last 7 games? That warrants a jump to another level? Can we look some more?
Lance Leopold moved from Wisconsin WhiteWater(the other giant in D-III) to UB in 2015. If I read correctly his record has been 5-7, 2-10, 6-6 and 10-2 regular season. As we know went to the MAC Champ game this year. Point? Could a super successful D-III coach make a successful jump? Appears possible. Probably has more to do with the person and his ability to adapt to a more complex environment than anything else. Still not necessarily the way I would go but,not out of the question.
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On 12/6/2018 at 9:02 PM, 94zipgrad said:
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant
Has Luke Getsy at $600,000. Think that takes him out?
Didn't realize he was making that much. Shows us what a totally different world P5 football is compared to us peons in G5. Getsy checked almost all of the boxes I was looking for except previous HC experience. But, he has had so much experience at so many different levels including as a high level assistant that this job would seem to be a great first shot for him. But,if that $600,000 figure is correct it would be real difficult to take the pay cut he would have to take to come here.
Given the AD's background I am wondering if he is looking for that varied experience,college,professional,high level assistant,offensive guy for his next hire. Wouldn't rule out anybody who checks those boxes and is familiar with the football terrain in Ohio and Western Penna.
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3 hours ago, 94zipgrad said:
Been kickin' around a long time and in a number of different places not have become a HC somewhere previously?
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On 12/7/2018 at 1:16 PM, footballzip said:
2005 MAC Championship with JD Brookhart was the best accomplishment the program made. Bowl games are nice but MAC champions should always be the greatest goal.
Agree,have to at least be competitive to win the division every year. Not that you win it every year,obviously. But,you have to be at least 5-3 in conference to do that.
Brookhart did what he needed to do the first two years he was here. He took some decent talent leftover from Owens' teams,added some decent talent of his own and won a MAC championship. Got left out of a Bowl game in 2004. Hopefully,the next coach can accurately evaluate what is left on the roster after graduations,transfers and de-commits,bring in a few good pieces and at least get back to .500 next year. If nothing else,if the next guy can put a competent offense on the field they should pick up a couple of wins. But,lets see who that next guy is ,for sure, and lets see which players stick around and which do not.
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1 hour ago, ZachTheZip said:
Since Williams played in the NFL I wonder how much he values bringing some of that experience to the college level?Obviously, some of these guys fit that bill. I also like the guys who have a background in this area and in Western Penna. There is some really good football played in the D-II PSAC. They would be familiar with recruiting procedures as well as talent in and around here. Would Kehres be willing or ready to jump into the whole recruiting thing?
As an aside to Kehres,does anybody remember if UofA ever seriously pursued Larry way back when?
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With all the talk about a head coach, I wonder who might make good assistants. Jim Ballard,former Cuyahoga Falls and MOUNT UNION QB who spent time in the CFL and I think in the NFL would make an interesting QB coach or OC. Has the Mount pedigree. Runs a QB training academy. One of the problems around here has been developing QB's to potential.
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3 hours ago, Spin said:
We can talk about population all week, but the simple fact is football is THE sport in Ohio high schools, especially northeast Ohio. It's a northeast Ohio hotbed. The best athletes play football in high school. In other parts of the country, that isn't true.
I lived in Texas for 10 years. I can assure U that THE best athletes there play football. And pretty much at a higher level than is played in Ohio these days. Go to Dallas,Houston, San Antonio etc,etc. The public schools down there have THE best facilities.Private schools in Texas don't compete with public schools for state championships if I am not mistaken. No advantage in going to a private school if you can't AFFORD it and u want to play football. Unlike here. I lived in AZ. That has become a football hot bed in the last 25 years. None of them are going to come to this part of the world to play in shitty weather when they can play in AZ or California. Those parts of the country are gaining population. Thus more kids playing sports in the schools.
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13 hours ago, Blue & Gold said:
Great article.
I know we're hiring a national search firm, but you've got to think LW, being a football guy, already has his short list of guys he's just salivating to talk to. This has probably consumed his thinking over the last few years. I'd be shocked were that not the case.
As before,he has had names in mind since he became the AD. If he makes a good hire here his next level AD job will come calling.
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2 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:
Exactly.
I don't understand the notion that we need to hire someone as quickly as possible to save a recruiting class. The foundation of talent on this team is 10x better than what Bowden had when he was hired. The floor going forward should be 4-8, and that gives the new coach time to learn the University and put together an excellent recruiting pitch. Besides, football is a system-dominated sport. The right coach will win with lesser talent if his system is superior. Bowden had more talent than half the teams we played and lost to this season; his offense (ran by Milwee) blew.
Problem might be that some of the people Bowden brought in or was recruiting will go elsewhere now that Bowden is gone. Happens all the time. The team as it is constituted now may lose some key people over the winter.
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5 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:
From 2013-2017 Ohio produced 79 blue chip recruits. That's 5th best in the entire country. Argue with facts all you want, but Ohio still produces lots of elite talent comparative to other states. I live in Stark county that's N/E Ohio last I checked. Every year Stark county sends several players to big time D1 programs.
You stated a key fact...the BEST HS players from around here do not usually come to Akron or the school in Portage County. They go to the Big 10 and other higher level conferences. It is true that there is still some 'big time' HS talent around here. Just doesn't normally land here. Western Pennsylvania should become an area of emphasis again.
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1 hour ago, NWAkron said:
He's moved around quite a bit and hasn't been a head coach even at a small college. Can someone enlighten me on whether this is a normal track?
He went into coaching at IUP, winning D-II program. People have thought enough of him to give him positions at the Pro and Major College level. He was a Pitt recruit. He is from Western PA as I understand. Yep,I would like to see a candidate from a winning FCS or D-II program at least. But, Getsy has seen a lot at every level since 2006. At least give him a look.
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17 minutes ago, zipsoutsider said:
Nope.
It would not have been shady, it's part of the game. A lot shadier crap goes on in recruiting than that.
I wonder which players will be requesting a release. If I was @CDMac's kid, I would be seriously considering it.
Getsy might be a favorite for Zips fans, but not much of a recruiting draw.
Honestly, none of the names in the ESPN article were very inspiring.
Tell me about Getsy!
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1 hour ago, LZIp said:
I don't think anyone is saying we are going to automatically dominate the MAC if Milwee is replaced, but there is no denying he is a large part of the problem and it's highly likely that almost anyone they would bring in would at least be an improvement.
I personally was willing to give Milwee the benefit of the doubt heading into this season as this is a process and the only time we really have had talented weapons on offense during his time here was the year we ended the season with a WR at QB (yes that is his fault as well). Our big time transfer RB also couldn't stay healthy in his two seasons. Its extremely possible that Bowden could have had the same thought pattern.
What I'm saying is it's clear to me that Milwee is now a problem. We have talented players on offense and our offense has not produced all season. I can live with giving Bowden a chance to make it right and make the change. I can't live with Bowden refusing to make a change now that there is no denying there is an issue. Nepotism runs rampant in football, for better or worse.
Just for purposes of discussion,if the AD goes to Bowden and says Milwee has to go if you want to stay(not in so many words mind you) what happens? I honestly don't think thats the way MOST AD's or head coaches would want to operate. But who knows? And,what if Bowden says 'I'll make the change as long as I can pick the guy I want'? Pure speculation.
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38 minutes ago, ZipsVoice said:
Bowden will be relieved of duty, or “retire” following the UA board meeting Wednesday, if I had to bet. Takers? A Natty Light at the JAR?
I said earlier that Williams just may be trying to allow a historically solid coach like Bowden go out on his own terms. One would assume that Williams is seriously considering making a change. But,far stranger things have happened.
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20 minutes ago, NWAkron said:
Missed my point ?. Just happy Buffalo didn't get another MAC title in any sport. Also, willing to take the 1.3mill from SC and the settlement from Nebraska. That should be more than enough to send Bowden, Milwee, et al to the Land of the Misfit Toys.
Got it. Just not a big UB fan.
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25 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said:
Just as sure as Buffalo would take our 6-2 from last season.
Sigh! Seems so long ago.
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On 11/28/2018 at 4:15 PM, LZIp said:
Jake Spatival to Texas State, JMU's coach to Charlotte. We could very well be missing the boat here with this rescheduled game. Our only hope could be to can Milwee by next season.
Milwee is not the only problem. Williams MAY be trying to let Bowden go out on his own terms. Just a guess. But,I keep seeing this just get rid of Milwee stuff and everything will be OK. Don't we think that if Bowden thought Milwee was 'THE" problem and the reason the offense has been so awful that he wouldn't have 'replaced' him long ago? Are we saying Bowden is keeping Milwee in place even if by doing so it is costing the team wins?
Here is hoping that Williams does have a list and has a couple of prospects still on the radar.
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Solich is the guy you 'hate'....unless he is on YOUR sideline.
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Kyron Brown could have been a first teamer. But,teams knew they didn't have to go in his direction. Bell seemed to 'fall off' as the season wore on.
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2 minutes ago, NWAkron said:
Buffalo's loss last night is the only satisfaction I will take from this season
Would you take 6-2 in the MAC right now?
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On 11/16/2018 at 6:01 PM, NWAkron said:
'SHOW ME THE MONEY'!!
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Didn't realize that Tressel was that close to getting the UofA president's job. Lebron James and Terry Bowden were in Akron at the same time for several years before James decided to leave again. Dambrot was here also until 2 years ago. Were the three ever connected in a PR sense? Embick has also been here for a bit.
Sure AD Williams could hire another Ianello. He might hire a Jim Dennison(goes back to the last consistent winning period for the program) or Matt Campbell type.
Lets hope he has made the best decision to get the program to be a consistent winner, in the MAC year in and year out. Thats what HE gets PAID to do.