Lee Adams

That 10-2 season will happen when? You stated some very good reasons why that is not likley to happen. Doesn't need to. See above.

Anybody read the 'quote' in the BJ on Sunday? Bowden said the coaches need to stop putting players in positions where they feel 'pressured' into doing things they(the players) are not capable of doing. Read it! I hope Bowden as the HC was including himself. That has been stated on this board before by at least one person.. The job of coaches during the season is to put players in the best position to win(that also has been questioned here previously). Square peg into the round hole etc,etc. If Bowden is directing this to Milwee then Bowden has responsibility also. Hard to believe its directed at the defense. Shouldn't be! Maybe they win the last 3. Or not! I said 6-6 would be acceptable this season. Stay with it.

Wonder if thats hat size or what?

DIG. By making the comment you did about ponchos, means you didn't take your own advice and 'ignore' the umbrella issue'. Again,it wasn't about umbrellas. Apparently some here haven't figured that out. The scholarship thing was a lame attempt. Juvenile at best. Even if these guys win their last 3 in spite of what the coaches are doing on the O side of the ball,it won't increase attendance,student or otherwise.

Ha,ha. But hope not. Love to go to the games.

Agree about the D.So if the offense has '0 playmakers' why does Bowden continue to try to pound the square peg into the round hole on offense?

Student attendance is a tired,old topic. Nobody here has any idea about how to 'increase' student attendance because there has NEVER been a significant,consistent student attendance since I attended Akron starting in 1970. The only really significantly large crowds were for the old Acme Zip games. I said before the deep thinkers in the AD have no idea what it has been like for the last 40+ years around here as far as student attendance,much less general attendance is concerned. Most of them aren't from around here or are far too young to realize what it is like to go to DII playoff games in sub freezing temps. Much easier to 'ESPNize' themselves to bring in money. Win consistently,that is 7+ games a year and they will increase attendance a bit. But, there will never be any consistently big crowds(20,000) at Info. Stop the madness people.

Avoidance of things unpleasant to one's personal beliefs doesn't make those things go away.

Not many were expecting a MAC championship,this year. Felt all along that Bowden needed to get the program to 6-6,this year. That seemed reasonable for a 'rebuild'. Now people are 'assuming' that a team that has played poorly for a month or more and lost three in a row will win two or three out of its last three with two roadies and two good QB's on the other side. Hope,maybe? I keep wondering if Bowden, by insisting on running his offensive 'system' with personnel who appear to be unable to consistently execute that system is putting his players in the best position to win now. The defense has carried the team thus far. Bowden needs to throw them a lifeline..soon.

They didn't 'take the run away'from Pohl,they used it more often.

Good points made by Mr. Thomas. And,no his point was NOT umbrellas. Its is about the poor football 'product' that has been put on the field for years and years. And,some of that responsibility is with the current AD and his administration for making some really bad choices concerning football. Its is also about treating the 'pedestrian' fans who don't sit in the clubs or loges as after thoughts on occasion. Like last year when they didn't feel like clearing the snow from large sections of the stadium and told some season ticket holders they couldn't sit in the seats they had paid for because it wasn't 'safe'. Ya duh,it wasn't safe because the AD chose not to clear the snow. (And,no I wasn't able to sit in a 'better' seat in the lower bowl.) I buy tix and go to games to watch football. I don't sit in the parking lot and drink. I don't stay home to watch games. But when you sit through games like last night where the 'product' on the field was not acceptable AND the weather was even worse I can understand why someone might complain about an umbrella.

This team has been 'offensively challenged' pretty much all year(patsy Howard aside). There almost seems to be an attitude of 'lets throw some stuff on the wall and see what sticks'. The trajectory for the offense has been precipitously downward for a month now. Last season when these guys started winning in November Bowden/Milwee had to or chose to commit to 'dumbing down' the offense and committing to the run to help out his QB (for a couple of different reasons). They were able to control games more adequately which not only helped the QB, it helped the defense stay off the field. Thought they were going to do that last night with some of the two and I think even three back sets. But...Bowden/Milwee wouldn't commit to the ground. They tried to play a game that BG was much better at than the Zips. Throw in some turnovers,some poor decisions and they hung the defense out to dry,again. Not really sure what to think about the people running the offensive side of things at this point. But unless the offense starts pulling its weight these guys are going to have difficulty getting to .500.

Lets not kid ourselves,its all about beating BGSU!

Actually I was thinking more of this: the team is coming out of the locker room,the band is playing 'Akron Blue and Gold' THEN...an image of Leslie Nielson appears over Infocision and urges, 'now go out and win just ONE for the Zippers'.......

Neither the team nor coaches have any identity at this point. Offense with Milwee in control has no idea how to best use the 'talent' it does have. Seems to be pounding the square peg into the round hole. Could be an epiphany Tuesday night, but.....

Joe Dunn is a lightweight, company man. Always has been. Always will be .He needs his job. As far as the rag called the BJ(for good reason) why would anyone ever expect anything more from a first rate second rate newspaper?

Good point. 7 wins seems like a minimum for this team given the losses thus far. A loss to BG with a roadie at Buffalo(good QB) and a homie w/UMASS(good QB) would probably be living too close to the edge in getting to 7 wins. With what is going on with this team right now who knows which one will show up 11-4.

Don't worry about any bowl game. Even if this coaching staff were capable of winning 3 out of the last 4,I question whether this team would be attractive to any bowl committee.

Some strange decision making by Bowden and his staff.

Now that the euphoria of pretty much meaningless games in September has long since passed, reality sets in. My ,hope, for 6-6 was obviously far too optimistic. Last year this program sneaked up on a couple of teams. Not this year. The warts of the coaches(especially) and the personnel are being exposed. Losses like this can't be blamed on personnel. These lay squarely on decision making by the coaching staff. Its that cliche phrase of coaches are hired to put players in the best position to perform at the highest of their capabilities. The last two weeks show that isn't happening yet. Curious.

Haven't seen or heard anything that leads me to believe the Zips should be expected to win this game. Sorry. I am still not confident that TB has a handle on his offense. And,more importantly that Milwee, who is cutting his teeth here is the guy to help pull this offense together with the talent at hand. I think Amato has done a much better job in that regard with the D. Though that would be expected given all his experience. If TB's offense doesn't figure itself out this week, its going to be tough to get to even 6-6 given the schedule. We can all say they 'should' do this and that. But,5-7 last year was a little over the top. 6-6 still seems somewhat realistic. Whether that deserves a bowl game,????????

Was looking at the 2005 roster/record. For those who don't remember thats the last time Zips won anything. If you OBJECTIVELY look at the offensive side of the ball you probably realize that the 2014 version doesn't have the playmakers that the 2005 team had on offense. There is no Hixon,Getsy,Biggs or Arthur on this team. And, the O-line on the '05 team was probably better. On the D side,the 2014 team likely has more 'athletes'. But,the offense in 2005 could score when it needed to. It also had real leaders in Getsy and Biggs and Hixon, the 2014 version doesn't have. And there were some guys on the defensive side who stepped up in crunch time. I thought JD needed to go in 2009,BUT he was able to pull that talent together and probably overachieve with it. We will see in '14 and '15 if this regime can do that.

How about an 'Acme Zip' game type promo? Nobody is going to show up anyway. Sell some cheap tix,give the players a boost with a crowd and make some money off concessions etc. Problem is these days the people in all of the AD's promo positions have as much imagination as my dearly departed grandma. They are robots locked in to the 'easy' looking cash from the leaches at ESPN etc,etc. That is not LOCAL involvement. That is just a way for some snot nosed people in the marketing dept. to thump themselves on the chest. Lets please stop the attendance conversation. It isn't going to change

With the loss to OU,how many show up for BGSU on Tuesday 11-4? And,if there is another loss at Testicle Tech on 10-25 does that significantly affect the number of butts in seats on 11-4? Does a win make any difference?