Lee Adams

i am sure you are basing your assessment of next year's potential on the performance over the last 3 years...right?

so you might be surprised...so what?

can't did some things the Zips failed to do...beat fuffalo, beat a team with a winning record and win ONE GD game when it counted...i HOPE the AD looks at this for what it says about our program...

sorry guys...reality is hell...compare yourself to the best not the worst or you will always be what U are...mediocre...look at the record against the MAC....look at bowl games...look at the overall record...i know some of you guys are experts and are waiting for coaching jobs to come your way but some of us poor shmucks...just want to see one more win than loss a few seasons in a row...by the way stop the personal lecture...i don't know you...you don't know me ...thanks

IF Brookhart stays..the defensive coaches have to go...the offense puts up enough points just about every game to be competetive...the defense for the last 2-3 years has forced the offense to score a ridiculous number of points to just stay in games...by now returning players and recruits look at the D and those coaches and see a black hole...what happened to Bryan Williams for instance...not only does it lose games, the defense has no credibility...for Brookhart to come back and thats a HUGE IF...he has to agree to overhaul the defensive side of the ball....

Bill Cubit...4 years at WMU 29-18...'nuf said

the fans will show up just for the new digs...the games won't matter much in regard to attendance...this is the best time to recruit new blood...

i'm getting all warm and fuzzy...

which means after 5 years we can't consistently compete with WINNING teams in or out of conference...

its been painfully obvious the last few years that if this team had a defense that was even in the middle of the MAC pack it would have won(probably this year) at least one more division title...if i am the AD i tell brookhart, you get a locker at the INFO....ONLY IF you replace the defense coaches...if not.......

how do the Zips spell defense?..they can't...what a damn shame!

:blink: wanna see 2 QB's who can take charge and make everyone else better? ...watch THIS game...

good observation... i think brookhart may be concerned that if the Zips mail in the last two games the AD may look hard...somebody on RASOR'S site observed the rather 'subdued' tone of the postgame press conference...shoot if brookhart gets these guys to 7-5 now he at least deserves to open the Info...but 5-7????

if i was a WINKING LIZARD big shot i'd be buying some space along Exchange...BW3 is crazy if they don't expand...that location is a gold mine on game days...

thanks RACER...nobody wants to face reality...

You do realize that over the two buy weeks they experimented with the four DL set and used it against Toledo right?I suppose my point dealt more with the fact that some fans on this board believe that sitting around and complaining will acomplish something. It won't. Brookhart will eventually make the needed changes when he see the need to. You have to remember, most of you aren't there at practice seeing things that Brookhart sees. And obviously he has tried, assuming your post is true. Akron has come a long way since....Gerry Faust went 1-10 in his final year of coaching. Most definitely a long way since that. Lee Owens compiled just 12 wins in his first four seasons as head coach. Definitely a long way since then.Lee Owens compiled a 49% winning record his last 5 years as coach. I would say its come at least a little way since then.We did win a MAC Championship. Since then, we've had two loosing seasons. I generally feel that these Zips teams are generally better than years past, but the overall W-L record doesn't show us to be a MAC powerhouse. Hence, my statement that we have come at least a little way the past few years, but not necessarily a long way.If the program has come a long way, then next year the team should be expected to win those big games as you've said. If we are just a few mistakes or a couple of dropped balls away from a MAC championship game, then that should be remedied by next season. At the same time, if we have come a long way we will easily beat our last two opponents this year who both have losing records. If not, I would say that Akron football has not come a long way recently. Wait 'till next year is something Akron fans have had to say for a long time. If that is what we end up saying this year, how can we say Akron has come a long way?Bottom line: Akron has the talent, and the coaching, now we just need to go out there and put some W's on the board. That's all it comes down to. This season was as close as it gets. There's really only two games this year that we flat out LOST. We won close games we should of won, and lost some close games that the media said we would lose. We need to start winning those to take the next step in the right direction. :blink: haven't beaten a team with a winning record..1 win at home...what am i missing?..that said if brookhart goes 6-6 he gets another year and a locker at the INFO...if not 3 losing seasons in a row after 2 + one win seasons..!Thats idiotic. Your basing the job security of our coach on ONE game? Please. guess ya gotta read everything...ITS NOT JUST ONE WIN AT HOME ITS ALL THE OTHER STUFF TOO...like i said if he gets this bunch to 6-6 EVEN THOUGH THEY WILL NOT HAVE BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNG RECORD i think jd gets one more year..

like it...

You do realize that over the two buy weeks they experimented with the four DL set and used it against Toledo right?I suppose my point dealt more with the fact that some fans on this board believe that sitting around and complaining will acomplish something. It won't. Brookhart will eventually make the needed changes when he see the need to. You have to remember, most of you aren't there at practice seeing things that Brookhart sees. And obviously he has tried, assuming your post is true. Akron has come a long way since....Gerry Faust went 1-10 in his final year of coaching. Most definitely a long way since that. Lee Owens compiled just 12 wins in his first four seasons as head coach. Definitely a long way since then.Lee Owens compiled a 49% winning record his last 5 years as coach. I would say its come at least a little way since then.We did win a MAC Championship. Since then, we've had two loosing seasons. I generally feel that these Zips teams are generally better than years past, but the overall W-L record doesn't show us to be a MAC powerhouse. Hence, my statement that we have come at least a little way the past few years, but not necessarily a long way.If the program has come a long way, then next year the team should be expected to win those big games as you've said. If we are just a few mistakes or a couple of dropped balls away from a MAC championship game, then that should be remedied by next season. At the same time, if we have come a long way we will easily beat our last two opponents this year who both have losing records. If not, I would say that Akron football has not come a long way recently. Wait 'till next year is something Akron fans have had to say for a long time. If that is what we end up saying this year, how can we say Akron has come a long way?Bottom line: Akron has the talent, and the coaching, now we just need to go out there and put some W's on the board. That's all it comes down to. This season was as close as it gets. There's really only two games this year that we flat out LOST. We won close games we should of won, and lost some close games that the media said we would lose. We need to start winning those to take the next step in the right direction. :blink: haven't beaten a team with a winning record..1 win at home...what am i missing?..that said if brookhart goes 6-6 he gets another year and a locker at the INFO...if not 3 losing seasons in a row after 2 + one win seasons..!

went in 2006 get I-77 to marietta and go west-once you get off 71 in columbus you're into a bunch of cowpaths...

sory folks, unless the edsel becomes the best selling u.s. car, no bowl for us..here's what Mandel has: buffalo/tcu-poinsettia; central/fresno-motor city;bgsu/uconn-international;testicle tech/tulsa-gmac;westen/tulsa-texas bowl...he says bgsu wins the east...not sure about that but too many teams with too many quality wins to be 'bowling'...

except he recruited the players...where did nate davis come from anyway?

:unsure:no... its not the person Dr. Z...the coaches name could be dennison or larson or smith or methusula for all i care...its the result on the field...i would love nothing more than for these guys to get to the new stadium next year...and maybe the decision has already been made...but this is another watershed for this program...what happens these last two games,moving to the new place and the season next year...is the body of work at a high enough level to reward this staff with the new stadium and more longevity...has the last five years been what we want the next five to be like?...thats all...nothing personal...got it?Maybe its the fact that you have been a zips fan for for a lot longer than myself, or maybe its just your personality, but you are by far the most pessimistic poster on this forum...and thats saying a lot. ' to deny reality is at times convenient,even fun...but when you wake up in the morning its still there...' maybe its all those games i've been to...but i pay my money and i watch the games and i(and my GF) agonize every time they lose and celebrate every time they win...by the way if j.d. gets to 6-6 I HOPE HE GETS AT LEAST 2 more years

never drew 20-25K here on a regular basis even when Larson and Dennison were winning...i went to the playoff games when they didn't draw squat..

i hope we draw 25,000+ next year and for years to come whomever is the coach,no matter what the record...but...did anybody watch the Western Micigan Toledo game today...Western is what, 9-2? going to a bowl...they have been a consistent winner in comparison to a lot of MAC teams...have a nice facility...they could have doubled the number of people who were actually there and not sold out...fact of life in the MAC over time..

the new place will be a novelty for a while and people will show up because its new for a year,maybe two...a few more students will show for a while because it is closer...but if there is not a consistent winner on the field that won't last...historically the charm of new facilities wears off...canal park used to have 'legitimate' sellouts all the time...we had season tickets...but they have had to resort to more free and discounted tickets to get people to show up...look at the historical football attendance all over the MAC...how many over time consistently draw 20,000+...not just a couple of years but over time...