ZachTheZip Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Tell me why we shouldn't be doing everything within the university's power to hire Jim Tressel as our next football coach. We'll need a new coach after this season and there's not a single person in the world that could bring to Akron what Tressel could. Money shouldn't be a long term issue, as hiring Tressel boosts attendance and donations to levels we've not seen in the history of the football program. He brings in nearly nightly coverage on the Cleveland and Columbus TV news stations and most newspapers in the state of Ohio. He brings in national sports attention. These are things that you couldn't buy with 10 times what you would have to pay him. And most of that's before he ever coaches a single game for us. Some of you would be concerned about possible sanctions that he might bring with him. But we're already operating so low under the scholarship cap thanks to Ianello that you have to wonder if it would even affect us. I'm trying to think of a negative to this. I don't see one. It should be Dr Proenza and Tom Wistrcill's top priority from now until December. It affects more than just athletics, it's a tremendous boost to the profile of the university and an instant game-changer where it comes to local perception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 We've got a coach in the 2nd year of his initial 5 year contract. The "powers that be" would NEVER allow Jim Tressel to be hired at another school in Ohio, regardless of his potential future "punishment." I understand you hate Ianello, and I was pretty pissed off last year too. Let him get his second season in and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted September 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 It's not about Ianello. The benefit would be there even if Ianello was successful both last year and this year, or if we had an entirely different coach. It's too good of an opportunity to pass up. And he WILL be coaching again. After this season he'll be back on the sidelines somewhere, and we had better make damn sure that it's here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 It's not about Ianello. The benefit would be there even if Ianello was successful both last year and this year, or if we had an entirely different coach. It's too good of an opportunity to pass up. And he WILL be coaching again. After this season he'll be back on the sidelines somewhere, and we had better make damn sure that it's here. It is about Ianello because you insinuate this season will not show improvement and therefore we'll need a new head coach for next year. The University will NOT eat $1 million from the guy's contract regardless of how poor of a 2nd season he has. And I again, while I don't doubt Tressel's next gig will be at a mid major type school in FBS, I don't think it'll happen in Ohio. The Suckeyes and their sticky fingers are imbedded too far in this state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 It's not about Ianello. The benefit would be there even if Ianello was successful both last year and this year, or if we had an entirely different coach. It's too good of an opportunity to pass up. And he WILL be coaching again. After this season he'll be back on the sidelines somewhere, and we had better make damn sure that it's here. Zach...in all honesty, you lost me by creating this thread. Where in the past I thought you were a bright, passionate kid..even if a bit of an oddball...the respect I had for you has disintegrated. I am going to do what DIG recommended and block your posts. Goodbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 CK If you are really interested in making this forum better....you should start deleting this kind of radical post designed to cause a caustic debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 CK If you are really interested in making this forum better....you should start deleting this kind of radical post designed to cause a caustic debate. I think Zach's posts are fine, and I think this thread is fine. Treat it as it is, a guy making a suggestion because he dislikes the guy that coaches our Zips. He dislikes our coach to the point that he wants the scandal-embroiled coach of a team he (and a lot of us) desperately hate, to become our next head coach. That's fine. While some of the crap on here gets repetitive, debate is fun. We're all Zips fans and we all have opinions. Respect them here like you do (or should) in the real world. Or ignore the poster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 I think you're being a little harsh Doug. Is this the most thought provoking, insightful thread ever? No. Does what Zach is saying have any realistic chance of becoming a reality? No. But this is the kind of post you'll see on every school's message board across the country. It's no big deal. If you don't like what Zach's saying, that's fine. But don't get personal with the dude, it's completely unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Valpo Zip Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Terrible idea. Here is why: 1- Tressel will never coach a non BCS team 2- We have a coach for the next 4 years 3- We are not Can't state. They hire cheaters, we don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted September 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Terrible idea. Here is why: 1- Tressel will never coach a non BCS team 2- We have a coach for the next 4 years 3- We are not Can't state. They hire cheaters, we don't. Your first and second points are not the least bit true. As for your third... in football it pays to cheat. Until the NCAA grows some balls and re-implements the death penalty there's not a punishment in the world they could throw at us that would outweigh the benefits. befides, do you think that he'll be able to get away with that level of stuff again, with all the scrutiny surrounding a move like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 I think you're being a little harsh Doug. Is this the most thought provoking, insightful thread ever? No. Does what Zach is saying have any realistic chance of becoming a reality? No. But this is the kind of post you'll see on every school's message board across the country. It's no big deal. If you don't like what Zach's saying, that's fine. But don't get personal with the dude, it's completely unnecessary. I do not think I am being to harsh. Tressel quit weeks ago. If he was really interested in this debate...he could have had then. 3 days prior to the season to start a debate on whether to replace the coach is inapropriate and PATHETIC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted September 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 I started this thread today because I was reading about this very topic somewhere else today. Not weeks ago. And if you care to recall, even before he resigned I have been an advocate of somehow getting Tressel here. I was hoping for a situation like Ohio has with Frank Solich, where he comes here to coach in a lower-pressure situation until he wants to retire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 CK If you are really interested in making this forum better....you should start deleting this kind of radical post designed to cause a caustic debate. If you respond to the post, YOU are the fool. Why do you feel the need to respond to every stupid post Zach makes? Do you really think you can convert the kid? Seriously? As I said previously, those who respond are EQUALLY to blame as those who start it. Stop responding, and the posts will disappear. Keep responding, and they remain visible. You way isn't working. Try mine if you really care about the board's quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornbread Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 GO ZIPS. BEAT THE SUCKEYES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 CK If you are really interested in making this forum better....you should start deleting this kind of radical post designed to cause a caustic debate. If you respond to the post, YOU are the fool. Why do you feel the need to respond to every stupid post Zach makes? Do you really think you can convert the kid? Seriously? As I said previously, those who respond are EQUALLY to blame as those who start it. Stop responding, and the posts will disappear. Keep responding, and they remain visible. You way isn't working. Try mine if you really care about the board's quality. If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it really make a noise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 I think you're being a little harsh Doug. Is this the most thought provoking, insightful thread ever? No. Does what Zach is saying have any realistic chance of becoming a reality? No. But this is the kind of post you'll see on every school's message board across the country. It's no big deal. If you don't like what Zach's saying, that's fine. But don't get personal with the dude, it's completely unnecessary. Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zip Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Is there a better question than hiring Tressel -- perhaps? Would you be willing to sacrifice the "integrity" of our program for significant notoriety? I would in a heart beat. The death penalty is a thing of the past in college football and what was done in Columbus was just stupid but hardly anything extreme if you ask me. Tressel's actions of obfuscation were worse than the players who got Tats for gifts. Tressel (regardless of whether you care or not) is one of our own -- an Akron graduate. I'm not sure i would accept just any coach who broke the rules, but one who coached and went to school here i would. I don't think he'll coach Div. 1 again. I do believe he'll coach and wouldn't be surprised if it was at Baldwin Wallace or a high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted September 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 We need to be doing everything in our power to get him here. Tressel's potential cheating would be much more limited at Akron. We don't have a hundred thousand rogue boosters with cash to throw around, we don't have that local culture where anything associated with our university is revered as being holy to the point where dumb schmucks would pay good money just to get a scrap of a sweaty jersey. OSU had that kind of culture surrounding it long before Tressel came to town. He wouldn't be able to re-create that no matter how good he was here. That kind of following takes many decades to build. Bring in Tressel. Find the money to pay him, do whatever it takes. Another year of Ianello could end up doing more damage to the program than an NCAA death penalty would. So why not take a chance on Tressel? No matter the sanctions we would still be better off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 1- Tressel will never coach a non BCS team I see him coaching high school some day. Listening to his interviews, I think he's had enough of the corrupt filthy recruiting business in big time college football. He would be much happier in the corrupt filthy recruiting business of big time high school football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted September 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Are people still opposed to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Frank Solich was older than Tressel when he took the OU job. There was no reason for Solich to not get another big time job other than his age so he went to a MAC school because he still wanted to coach. The best Howard Schnellenberger could do was Louisville where he had three really good years with a bunch of average at best seasons between the good ones. Tressel will never get another big time job because of his age. If Tressel wants to coach again, it will be at a MAClike school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted September 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Coming to the MAC is the perfect level for Tressel to make a return. If he wants to stay low-key like Solich then it works. And if he wants to get back to a top program we're only one step away, as opposed to a high school or D-III team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Tressel would bring instant Cred to the program. He is loved by most Ohio coaches and in state recruits know of him. He woud get recruits that we can't get now. I would take the baggage that would come with him to get him here. He is from NE Ohio and has coached at Akron in the past. This wouldn't be a stepping stone for him as I think he doesn't want to go big time again. He could build the Akron program and when he retires leave it in good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Tressel would bring instant Cred to the program. He is loved by most Ohio coaches and in state recruits know of him. He woud get recruits that we can't get now. I would take the baggage that would come with him to get him here. He is from NE Ohio and has coached at Akron in the past. This wouldn't be a stepping stone for him as I think he doesn't want to go big time again. He could build the Akron program and when he retires leave it in good shape.He is an Akron Alumnus and wrote the foreward for the only Akron Football History book that I know exists. (Which many of you were very angry about) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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