CSU vs. Akron

[MontrealExposloveZippy]

Good article about Cleveland State's upset yesterday. It's amazing how CSU gets little to no press over their biggest win in school history

(over the highest ranked opponent they've ever defeated) while most of Northeast Ohio continues to focus on the waning Buckeyes and Browns

Northeast Ohio is going to deliver some quality basketball this winter!!

Go Zips and Go Expos!

http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/17814

[akzipper]

Good article about Cleveland State's upset yesterday. It's amazing how CSU gets little to no press over their biggest win in school history

(over the highest ranked opponent they've ever defeated) while most of Northeast Ohio continues to focus on the waning Buckeyes and Browns

Northeast Ohio is going to deliver some quality basketball this winter!!

Go Zips and Go Expos!

http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/17814

I'm glad they didn't get much press. I actually dislike them just as much as Can't, and I'd like to think we have a better chance of gaining the northeast ohio fanbase. Aside from a good sized arena, there's nothing about them I can like. Although I feel like we will probably lose to them...

[Blue & Gold]

Good article about Cleveland State's upset yesterday. It's amazing how CSU gets little to no press over their biggest win in school history

(over the highest ranked opponent they've ever defeated) while most of Northeast Ohio continues to focus on the waning Buckeyes and Browns

Northeast Ohio is going to deliver some quality basketball this winter!!

Go Zips and Go Expos!

http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/17814

I'm glad they didn't get much press. I actually dislike them just as much as Can't, and I'd like to think we have a better chance of gaining the northeast ohio fanbase. Aside from a good sized arena, there's nothing about them I can like. Although I feel like we will probably lose to them...

Amen. Screw Cleveland State.

[GP1]

biggest win in school history

I'm old enough to remember the 1980s young man. They had a much bigger win back when I was walking uphill both ways to school and cars were still driving through campus.

[GoZips]

biggest win in school history

I'm old enough to remember the 1980s young man. They had a much bigger win back when I was walking uphill both ways to school and cars were still driving through campus.

GP1, are you speaking of CSU's upset win over Indiana in the

NCAA tournament?

Like other posters I loathe CSU as much as I do Cant.

CSU's win over Vandy was nice for them; but, remember, Vandy was

playing without their All-American point guard. Even the TV talking heads

admitted that Vandy was not really a top ten team. Still, a nice win

about equivalent to Akron's win over Mississppi State.

We need to take care of business when we play Cleveland State.

Leave no doubt.

[Captain Kangaroo]

The heyday of the heavyweight division was the era of Ali, Frazier and Foreman. Possibly throw in Ken Norton too.

The heyday of NE Ohio college hoops is here*. The Zips, Flashers and Vikings are all ridiculously talented. The Vikings and Zips have great coaches that will be around for the long-haul. And regardless of what coach K.e.n.t. plugs in, the guy wins 20+ games.

If you want to whine about lack of coverage for any of the above programs...wait a couple weeks.

Without the NBA in town, there will be one premiere basketball game held in NE Ohio in November - CSU @ K.e.n.t on November 22nd.

And one in December - Zips @ Vikings on December 10th @ 2pm.

Get your tickets now. Both will be HUGE. There will be plenty of media coverage.

"The Thrilla Near Nemisila," anyone?

* The Mackey-Huggins "era" was more of a shooting star than an "era."

Memo to "46-year-old-+-guy": Please refrain from opining for those couple games in the mid-80's. They were great, but the Waters/Dambrot match up has the legs to truly be an "era." Both coaches aren't going anywhere for a decade.

[Hilltopper]

The real story of those CSU teams of the 80's, was how the HC kept things together while smoking crack and hanging out with Ho's all day long.

[mes102]

The heyday of the heavyweight division was the era of Ali, Frazier and Foreman. Possibly throw in Ken Norton too.

The heyday of NE Ohio college hoops is here*. The Zips, Flashers and Vikings are all ridiculously talented. The Vikings and Zips have great coaches that will be around for the long-haul. And regardless of what coach K.e.n.t. plugs in, the guy wins 20+ games.

If you want to whine about lack of coverage for any of the above programs...wait a couple weeks.

Without the NBA in town, there will be one premiere basketball game held in NE Ohio in November - CSU @ K.e.n.t on November 22nd.

And one in December - Zips @ Vikings on December 10th @ 2pm.

Get your tickets now. Both will be HUGE. There will be plenty of media coverage.

"The Thrilla Near Nemisila," anyone?

* The Mackey-Huggins "era" was more of a shooting star than an "era."

Memo to "46-year-old-+-guy": Please refrain from opining for those couple games in the mid-80's. They were great, but the Waters/Dambrot match up has the legs to truly be an "era." Both coaches aren't going anywhere for a decade.

Would be awesome if Akron would change the Florida State game to 7:00pm so the majority of people can watch a nationally ranked team in the JAR..But for those that don't work on saturdays, you can go to the Akron-FSU game, and then head to CSU for game that night ...

[skip-zip]

The heyday of the heavyweight division was the era of Ali, Frazier and Foreman. Possibly throw in Ken Norton too.

The heyday of NE Ohio college hoops is here*. The Zips, Flashers and Vikings are all ridiculously talented. The Vikings and Zips have great coaches that will be around for the long-haul. And regardless of what coach K.e.n.t. plugs in, the guy wins 20+ games.

If you want to whine about lack of coverage for any of the above programs...wait a couple weeks.

Without the NBA in town, there will be one premiere basketball game held in NE Ohio in November - CSU @ K.e.n.t on November 22nd.

And one in December - Zips @ Vikings on December 10th @ 2am.

Get your tickets now. Both will be HUGE. There will be plenty of media coverage.

"The Thrilla Near Nemisila," anyone?

* The Mackey-Huggins "era" was more of a shooting star than an "era."

Memo to "46-year-old-+-guy": Please refrain from opining for those couple games in the mid-80's. They were great, but the Waters/Dambrot match up has the legs to truly be an "era." Both coaches aren't going anywhere for a decade.

I really WANT to believe you, except that we only had 2,700 people show up for this game in Akron last year as our indicator of how much local sports fans were clammoring for a revival of this matchip. And if I recall, you had some bold predictions for that game's attendance as well. We have a VERY LONG way to go to match the WELL PAST SOLD OUT nature of the game at the JAR in 1986. I hope the lack of NBA action will help.

As far as the media coverage, this is what I see happening.

I tried to catch all 3 sports segments on the news late last night. All of them talked extensively about Cleveland State basketball. As long as Cleveland State is having success, we will remain primarily as the "And by the way, Akron beat Eastern Michigan tonight" mention at the very end of the sports broadcasts, from now until March.

[Captain Kangaroo]

I really WANT to believe you, except that we only had 2,700 people show up for this game in Akron last year as our indicator of how much local sports fans were clammoring for a revival of this matchip. And if I recall, you had some bold predictions for that game's attendance as well. We have a VERY LONG way to go to match the WELL PAST SOLD OUT nature of the game at the JAR in 1986. I hope the lack of NBA action will help.

Last year is last year.

How did Joe Paterno look last year? How about Jim Tressel? Last year doesn't mean too much. Rosters are entirely different. Is Steve McNees identical to Brian Walsh? Roberts the same as Gilliam? Bardo for Harney a 1-for-1 swap?

If we were tethered to 2011, why even play the 2011-12 season? Just cut-n-paste 2010-12 and start talking about 2013 recruiting?

The Zips and CSU are both MUCH better than last year. K.e.n.t. too.

The Zips and CSU began their seasons with HUGE wins, not BCS losses.

We drew 3,700+ for Hiram. People are on the bandwagon.

Akron-CSU will be epic, as long as both teams hold up their end of the bargain and don't lay a couple eggs between now and December 10th.

Bookmark this link, and bring it back on December 11th. Well see who's correct.

[skip-zip]

I really WANT to believe you, except that we only had 2,700 people show up for this game in Akron last year as our indicator of how much local sports fans were clammoring for a revival of this matchip. And if I recall, you had some bold predictions for that game's attendance as well. We have a VERY LONG way to go to match the WELL PAST SOLD OUT nature of the game at the JAR in 1986. I hope the lack of NBA action will help.

Last year is last year.

How did Joe Paterno look last year? How about Jim Tressel? Last year doesn't mean too much. Rosters are entirely different. Is Steve McNees identical to Brian Walsh? Roberts the same as Gilliam? Bardo for Harney a 1-for-1 swap?

If we were tethered to 2011, why even play the 2011-12 season? Just cut-n-paste 2010-12 and start talking about 2013 recruiting?

The Zips and CSU are both MUCH better than last year. K.e.n.t. too.

The Zips and CSU began their seasons with HUGE wins, not BCS losses.

We drew 3,700+ for Hiram. People are on the bandwagon.

Akron-CSU will be epic, as long as both teams hold up their end of the bargain and don't lay a couple eggs between now and December 10th.

Bookmark this link, and bring it back on December 11th. Well see who's correct.

First of all, you were wrong about the massive interest that this game was going to attract last year. And that's the only example we have right now. Secondly, concerning this year's game, how many times do I need to say, "I hope YOU are right" this time? Why do so many discussions on here have to turn into a debate as to who is right and who is wrong? That's part of the reason why so many older fans don't come here. We all want the Zips to win, and draw massive attendance numbers, correct?

And to remind you, CSU was unbeaten coming into the JAR last year, so I don't understand your "BCS losses" reference.

I'm just reminding you of your predictions prior to the game at JAR last year. That crowd wasn't 1/3 of the size of the crowd that showed up for the game in 1986. So, until we see otherwise, the "rivarly" is not even in the ballpark of drawing a similar level of interest, thus far.

Again, I hope the lack of NBA action can help change that.

[Captain Kangaroo]

First of all, you were wrong about the massive interest that this game was going to attract last year. And that's the only example we have right now. Secondly, concerning this year's game, how many times do I need to say, "I hope YOU are right" this time? Why do so many discussions on here have to turn into a debate as to who is right and who is wrong? That's part of the reason why so many older fans don't come here. We all want the Zips to win, and draw massive attendance numbers, correct?

And to remind you, CSU was unbeaten coming into the JAR last year, so I don't understand your "BCS losses" reference.

I'm just reminding you of your predictions prior to the game at JAR last year. That crowd wasn't 1/3 of the size of the crowd that showed up for the game in 1986. So, until we see otherwise, the "rivarly" is not even in the ballpark of drawing a similar level of interest, thus far.

Again, I hope the lack of NBA action can help change that.

A good friend of mine, and former regular poster in ZN.o, has not posted in over a year because he can't stand your constant negative posts. 100% truth. They don't bug me, but they do others. Just an FYI.

I'm glad my post from last year's CSU game made an impact on you. I can't remember it, so I appreciate the recall.

See you on December 11th.

[Blue & Gold]

As far as the media coverage, this is what I see happening.

I tried to catch all 3 sports segments on the news late last night. All of them talked extensively about Cleveland State basketball. As long as Cleveland State is having success, we will remain primarily as the "And by the way, Akron beat Eastern Michigan tonight" mention at the very end of the sports broadcasts, from now until March.

This is exactly, and tragically, correct. And this is why an Akron fan with even so much as an elementary ability to connect dots hates all-things Cleveland.

Burn, Cleveland. Burn.

[jem101]

As far as the media coverage, this is what I see happening.

I tried to catch all 3 sports segments on the news late last night. All of them talked extensively about Cleveland State basketball. As long as Cleveland State is having success, we will remain primarily as the "And by the way, Akron beat Eastern Michigan tonight" mention at the very end of the sports broadcasts, from now until March.

This is exactly, and tragically, correct. And this is why an Akron fan with even so much as an elementary ability to connect dots hates all-things Cleveland.

Burn, Cleveland. Burn.

Personally, I don't have too much of a problem with this. CSU is from Cleveland. It makes sense that they would get more coverage than the Zips. THe OSU coverage is the one that gets me. Cleveland claims that they are not band wagon fans, yet they choose to follow a team that is two hours away for the college sports.

[scottditzen]

I don't blame Cleveland- or the rest of the state- for rooting for OSU. Like it or not, they are the flagship school for the state of Ohio.

And the Cleveland media which, face it, IS the media for Northeast Ohio- they are STARVING for quality college sports in the local area.

You have to be really involved with revisionist history to believe that the media up here somehow ignored our Soccer National Champs, MAC Madness, CSU or Akron b-ball in the NCAA's or Can't States Elite 8 team.

[Blue & Gold]

I don't blame Cleveland- or the rest of the state- for rooting for OSU. Like it or not, they are the flagship school for the state of Ohio.

And the Cleveland media which, face it, IS the media for Northeast Ohio- they are STARVING for quality college sports in the local area.

You have to be really involved with revisionist history to believe that the media up here somehow ignored our Soccer National Champs, MAC Madness, CSU or Akron b-ball in the NCAA's or Can't States Elite 8 team.

All of these are the painfully rare exceptions which prove the rule that Cleveland's media ignores Akron 99% of the time.

When Akron gets between 3-5 minutes of coverage, from each major Cleveland television outlet -NBC, ABC, CBS & FOX- every night (regardless of merit, i.e., Browns, Indians, Cavs) for the next two generations (roughly 40 years) then we'll go ahead and call it even w/ the Cleveland media.

Cleveland's media has had Akron by the balls for a looooong time now; literally a couple of generations. That's almost entirely devastating for the Akron community's personal identity, or "sense of place." And, IMO, I don't think the Cleveland media was dumb enough not to realize what they were doing; it was intentional. Fortunately, 6:00 local news broadcasts are for dinosaurs and are quickly becoming increasingly irrelevant to a community's identity formation.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Beat Cleveland State, and get a lot of great exposure on Cleveland news (Sidebar - Does anyone even watch the local news anymore?).

Lose to CSU...we'll still get Cleveland news exposure...it just won't be the fun type.

HUGE game for the Zips and NE Ohio!

[Doug Snyder]

I don't blame Cleveland- or the rest of the state- for rooting for OSU. Like it or not, they are the flagship school for the state of Ohio.

And the Cleveland media which, face it, IS the media for Northeast Ohio- they are STARVING for quality college sports in the local area.

You have to be really involved with revisionist history to believe that the media up here somehow ignored our Soccer National Champs, MAC Madness, CSU or Akron b-ball in the NCAA's or Can't States Elite 8 team.

All of these are the painfully rare exceptions which prove the rule that Cleveland's media ignores Akron 99% of the time.

When Akron gets between 3-5 minutes of coverage, from each major Cleveland television outlet -NBC, ABC, CBS & FOX- every night (regardless of merit, i.e., Browns, Indians, Cavs) for the next two generations (roughly 40 years) then we'll go ahead and call it even w/ the Cleveland media.

Cleveland's media has had Akron by the balls for a looooong time now; literally a couple of generations. That's almost entirely devastating for the Akron community's personal identity, or "sense of place." And, IMO, I don't think the Cleveland media was dumb enough not to realize what they were doing; it was intentional. Fortunately, 6:00 local news broadcasts are for dinosaurs and are quickly becoming increasingly irrelevant to a community's identity formation.

I grew up in the Massillon area. People there have the same feeling about Akron as you do of Cleveland. I suspect the people in Orville have the same feeling about Massillon. Smaller communities will always feel slighted by the larger media market. I do not agree that the Cleveland media market spends any time at all thinking of ways to screw Akron or Medina or Youngstown or Canton or Yada Yada Yada. People are concerned about their own lives and getting ahead. They want to please their constituency and get ratings and make more money. If the smaller markets are unhappy with the media coverage, they can always start their own network and give more coverage to their city. But the truth is...the Plain Dealer has little distribution in Summit county so that dictates their coverage. I have not been around here for a long time and don't watch a lot of TV...but there used to be an Akron news station...does that still exist?? GP1 is correct…it is ALL about the money and profit. I don’t see any profit motive in disparaging local communities outside Cleveland by the major media outlets. Just my opinion...

[Blue & Gold]

I grew up in the Massillon area. People there have the same feeling about Akron as you do of Cleveland...

That's interesting insight. Actually, I've detected a lot of resentment towards Akron from the Canton Repository as well.

[Doug Snyder]

I grew up in the Massillon area. People there have the same feeling about Akron as you do of Cleveland...

That's interesting insight. Actually, I've detected a lot of resentment towards Akron from the Canton Repository as well.

Trust me on this one...people in Massillon think way more of the ABJ than the Canton Suppository.

[Dave in Green]

A good friend of mine, and former regular poster in ZN.o, has not posted in over a year because he can't stand your constant negative posts. 100% truth. They don't bug me, but they do others. Just an FYI. .....

I understand that some people turn other people off. It's human nature. But it makes absolutely no sense for someone to stop posting on a forum they otherwise enjoy for the sole reason that they don't happen to like the posts of one or two other people. That's what the Manage Ignored Users Option is for. You don't like anything someone posts? Add that person to your Ignored Users list, that person disappears for you and you can enjoy the forum as if that person never existed.

I think some people just throw out easy excuses to explain why they don't post on forums.

[Zip Watcher]

The heyday of the heavyweight division was the era of Ali, Frazier and Foreman. Possibly throw in Ken Norton too.

The heyday of NE Ohio college hoops is here*. The Zips, Flashers and Vikings are all ridiculously talented. The Vikings and Zips have great coaches that will be around for the long-haul. And regardless of what coach K.e.n.t. plugs in, the guy wins 20+ games.

If you want to whine about lack of coverage for any of the above programs...wait a couple weeks.

Without the NBA in town, there will be one premiere basketball game held in NE Ohio in November - CSU @ K.e.n.t on November 22nd.

And one in December - Zips @ Vikings on December 10th @ 2pm.

Get your tickets now. Both will be HUGE. There will be plenty of media coverage.

"The Thrilla Near Nemisila," anyone?

* The Mackey-Huggins "era" was more of a shooting star than an "era."

Memo to "46-year-old-+-guy": Please refrain from opining for those couple games in the mid-80's. They were great, but the Waters/Dambrot match up has the legs to truly be an "era." Both coaches aren't going anywhere for a decade.

Great post. Welcome aboard. +10.

Go Zips!

[Zip Watcher]

A good friend of mine, and former regular poster in ZN.o, has not posted in over a year because he can't stand your constant negative posts. 100% truth. They don't bug me, but they do others. Just an FYI.

I'm glad my post from last year's CSU game made an impact on you. I can't remember it, so I appreciate the recall.

See you on December 11th.

You sir, are on a roll.

B)

Go Zips!

[Zip Watcher]

A good friend of mine, and former regular poster in ZN.o, has not posted in over a year because he can't stand your constant negative posts. 100% truth. They don't bug me, but they do others. Just an FYI. .....

I understand that some people turn other people off. It's human nature. But it makes absolutely no sense for someone to stop posting on a forum they otherwise enjoy for the sole reason that they don't happen to like the posts of one or two other people. That's what the Manage Ignored Users Option is for. You don't like anything someone posts? Add that person to your Ignored Users list, that person disappears for you and you can enjoy the forum as if that person never existed.

I think some people just throw out easy excuses to explain why they don't post on forums.

It makes sense for the guy to do whatever he wants. It makes less sense for someone to continually editorialize every decision or comment by other posters.

Thanks for the reminder on the Ignore function.!

Go Zips!

[MontrealExposloveZippy]

I didn't know CSU would be such a touchy subject :/