Balsy Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) Came across this today. Complain about it all you want folks, this is VERY promising research which is sure to be expanded upon soon with larger sample sizes. The article breaks it down pretty well. But we discussed on this forum research published earlier this year studying 202 former NFL players, which appeared to link CTE to football players. The result of that study was that researchers were going to try to locate a biomarker to then predict the existence of CTE in living people. This new BU research, albeit relatively small sample size, appears to have found a biomarker. Quote The discovery comes after Boston University researchers studied the brains of 91 different living subjects, including 23 former college and professional football players, 50 non-athletes who have Alzheimer's disease and 18 non-athletes without Alzheimer's. The football players in the study "had a heightened level of CCL11, a particular biomarker" of CTE, per Westhead. Which means now we can expand to a larger, more general population to analyze/follow/make predictions based on the biomarker. Make predictions of who's more likely to have it, and the severity of it, and by death confirm the predictions. Were of course still aways away from that. But in no way shape or form is this bad science, or missleading. This is very good science folks. Connection to football has been indicated. Now there is a possible bio-indicator, found in heightened levels within Football players studied. Now for researching both in conjunction together to see if the link in fact is there. Edited September 27, 2017 by Balsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 https://apnews.com/66e699491a3b478293620c1e5069dc9e 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 12 hours ago, K92 said: https://apnews.com/66e699491a3b478293620c1e5069dc9e Our junior varsity team had to cancel 2 games this year, because there weren't enough kids playing at those other schools. And if Junior Varsity usually feeds your Varsity with some level of attrition... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 https://wtam.iheart.com/content/2017-11-08-bob-costas-football-may-soon-collapse-like-a-house-of-cards/?cmd=managed_social Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Collapse is what it will take to replace the hard shell helmet with something safer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mivid12 Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) players today have no idea how to tackle...in my opinion the smaller shoulder pads lead to players using their heads...they launch like missles rather than break down & wrap...i recently watched the 1994 MNF game between denver ( elway) & kc (montana)...steve atwater should be teaching players how to tackle....eddie johnson of the browns too...one of my all time favs...massive pads that he used to tackle...now they all have what were qb pads when i played Edited November 10, 2017 by mivid12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 The winningest coach in Ohio HS football, Manchester's Jim France, talks about concussion and the state of high school football at the beginning of his interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 4 hours ago, mivid12 said: players today have no idea how to tackle...in my opinion the smaller shoulder pads lead to players using their heads...they launch like missles rather than break down & wrap...i recently watched the 1994 MNF game between denver ( elway) & kc (montana)...steve atwater should be teaching players how to tackle....eddie johnson of the browns too...one of my all time favs...massive pads that he used to tackle...now they all have what were qb pads when i played I agree. Very little wrapping up. I will say the Zips are doing a better job at wrapping up this year than last year but still a long way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Watched The Business of Amateurs recently and found that Scott Ross, USC teammate of Seau, also died. The movie essentially said it was a result of CTE. Yet, these kids can't get 4 year guarantees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris buttermaker Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 i can see it going away for many reasons .... starting at school sponsored levels ... ms hs college Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cykron Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 18 hours ago, morris buttermaker said: i can see it going away for many reasons .... starting at school sponsored levels ... ms hs college Class action suits against school districts and universities that promote football could be devastating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 Beanie Wells undergoing treatment for brain trauma, which he attributes to his football career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Corey Widmer, former New York Giants and Montana State linebacker, declined his nomination to the Montana Football Hall of Fame, saying the sport “destroyed my life.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Story on former Kent State Safety, projected draft pick, and how a torn MCL derailed Luke Mollet's life... "By the end of 2016, I spent most of the year homeless, tired of living, and a full blown addict." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Malcolm Gladwell's podcast about the unexpected death of a Penn football player named Owen Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 OL dies after being hospitalized following a workout. Sad to read articles like this. Most likely an previously unknown issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Greg Ploetz dies at 65 and suffered from frontal lobe dementia and Alzheimer's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 From USA Today, Football kills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 A recent study of thousands of subjects conducted at a renowned medical school found that sooner or later 100% of all former football players die. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) I can confirm Edited June 27, 2018 by zippy5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, Zipmeister said: A recent study of thousands of subjects conducted at a renowned medical school found that sooner or later 100% of all former football players die. So you don't agree that its at least somewhat troubling that of the two athletes who have died recently both had early signs of CTE? Edited June 27, 2018 by Balsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Balsy said: So you don't agree that its at least somewhat troubling that of the two athletes who have died recently both had early signs of CTE? So that's what you took from his post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, zippy5 said: So that's what you took from his post? Yes. It was sarcastically dismissive. You took some other magical meaning from his post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, Balsy said: Yes. It was sarcastically dismissive. You took some other magical meaning from his post? No. It's zipmeister, there is usually no meaning. Same with my posts, to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Balsy said: So you don't agree that its at least somewhat troubling that of the two athletes who have died recently both had early signs of CTE? It's troubling, but at this point, anyone who plays football knows the risks. Joe Thomas is on record for saying he knows what football has done to his body and brain, but he knew the risks when he signed up to play football. That doesn't make it any less sad, nor does it excuse a lack of progress in safety equipment (not saying there is a lack of progress), but it's football. Edited June 27, 2018 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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