MAC Coaching Changes

[Captain Kangaroo]

Exactly! He bailed. Screw him.

Hey, I bailed on Coleman Crawford too. Who could watch that crap?

I couldn't imagine having to play on teams that were estatic to get 20+ points in a half. Especially when you had the option to be a starting guard on a Final Four team.

Buford was an Engineering student, and obviously one smart cookie.

[LZIp]

Not MAC related, but nobody wants to coach Tennessee.

I dont really care, but I feel their pain from last offseason.

[Hilltopper]

It's amazing that Bowers went from a 1-win program, to an Orange Bowl program.

Reminds me a little of when Anthony Buford bailed on a downward-spiraling Coleman Crawford basketball team and made it to the Final Four w/Cinci.

I don't blame him for leaving. Even Huggins thought hiring Crawford was mistake. He was right.

[johnnyzip84]

It's not a MAC coaching change, but since it indirectly relates to a couple of ex-Zip head coaches, I'll place THIS here.

And to think that Ianello was supposedly on SJSU's radar before they hired MacIntyre

Of course, JD Brookhart was part of the Colorado staff that MacIntyre will be replacing.

[K92]

Just a few years ago, Western Kentucky was one of the worst D-1 programs in the country. Now they are going to a bowl game and hired Bobby Petrino for $850,000 a year. Meanwhile, Akron...

[GP1]

Just a few years ago, Western Kentucky was one of the worst D-1 programs in the country. Now they are going to a bowl game and hired Bobby Petrino for $850,000 a year. Meanwhile, Akron...

Yahoo Sports doesn't think it is a good hire. Of course they are wrong because they think there is something more important than winning. Just ask any AD.

[K92]

Yahoo Sports doesn't think it is a good hire. Of course they are wrong because they think there is something more important than winning. Just ask any AD.

How did WKU come up with the dough to hire the rat? I figured the budgets for Sun Belt athletic departments were close to MAC numbers.

[ZachTheZip]

They can afford that kind of salary for a football coach because of two factors: NCAA basketball tournament payouts and the athletic fund donations brought in from those NCAA tournament appearances.

While football drives the boat in terms of national exposure and fan support, basketball is a bigger factor financially. Most schools lose money on football bowls, but make a profit on NCAA tournament runs. Success in one sport can fuel the other with boosted monetary support. Akron needs a breakout season in either one to get the ball rolling. We've come close, but close doesn't cut it.

[LZIp]

well we are getting ~1 million dollars thanks to NIU. Hopefully the athletic department uses that to increase our small recruiting budget OR puts it away to give Bowden a nice extension when he turns the program around so we can keep him. Paying assistants well is key, too. Thats a major reason in why Beliema went to Arkansas.

[K92]

They can afford that kind of salary for a football coach because of two factors: NCAA basketball tournament payouts and the athletic fund donations brought in from those NCAA tournament appearances.

While football drives the boat in terms of national exposure and fan support, basketball is a bigger factor financially. Most schools lose money on football bowls, but make a profit on NCAA tournament runs. Success in one sport can fuel the other with boosted monetary support. Akron needs a breakout season in either one to get the ball rolling. We've come close, but close doesn't cut it.

Perhaps this link will help you (and any others who might actually think you know what you're talking about) realize how wrong you are.

The first basketball program shows up in 21st position and 12 of the top fifty profitable programs are basketball. Hardly the biggest factor.

"Click here for facts"

[ZachTheZip]

Perhaps this link will help you (and any others who might actually think you know what you're talking about) realize how wrong you are.

The first basketball program shows up in 21st position and 12 of the top fifty profitable programs are basketball. Hardly the biggest factor.

"Click here for facts"

For the amount of resources put into it, basketball is far and away a better financial prospect than football for almost every school out there. Good basketball makes a profit much easier than good football. That profit can then be re-invested into a football program that's in the red. This is what WKU has done, and this is what Akron can do if they can put something together in basketball. We're much more likely to do that than for football to make a profit that we can put into funding other sports.

[zippy5]

We could sell out every home game and not turn a profit. The JAR is a dump, we need some suites and club seats to bring in the cash.

[Sergeant Zip]

Bill Cubit paid $145,000 to go away.

[Dave in Green]

For the amount of resources put into it, basketball is far and away a better financial prospect than football for almost every school out there. Good basketball makes a profit much easier than good football. .....

I think the point you're trying to make is that it requires fewer resources to create a successful college program in basketball than football, i.e. facilities, personnel/payroll, travel, etc. Therefore, more schools are financially capable of making the smaller basketball investment than the larger football investment. Obviously, some schools get a better return on investment than other schools, whether in football or basketball.

[GP1]

For the amount of resources put into it, basketball is far and away a better financial prospect than football for almost every school out there.

Are you sure?

[LZIp]

Anyone have a link of Akron's basketball and football profits (losses)?

I figure they should be obtainable since its a public University

[ZachTheZip]

Anyone have a link of Akron's basketball and football profits (losses)?

I figure they should be obtainable since its a public University

I'm looking for them right now. I know they're out there, it's just a matter of finding them.

Until then, feel free to take a look at UA's overall athletic finances. Expand Akron's row to see how things have changed year-by-year since 2006. It's fascinating.

[ZachTheZip]

Here is where Akron's basketball spending is compared to the MAC and the rest of the country for 2011.

[ZachTheZip]

And I believe that this is what you are looking for.

Unfortunately, there is no way to separate what is real revenue and what is from student fees because of the way Akron reports things.

However, you can take a look at what other MAC schools report. EMU, WMU, Ohio, and NIU show how things actually work.

In terms of pure financial data, basketball gives you a much better ROI. But the question remains how much each sport brings in donors, gets alumni involved, and gives the university the better reputation within the local community and nationally. At Akron, that's basketball. What gets the alumni more excited? What gets them more involved and invested in their university at the present moment? It might change with success in football, but basketball is a quicker way to get the ball rolling. Remember, my point is that success in one sport can be re-invested to help other sports. We can focus on basketball, and take that good will and boosted revenue to pour into football to give it the boost it so desperately needs.

[Dave in Green]

Are you sure?

Fascinating that both football and men's basketball programs have exactly the same percentage that are profitable (57%).

[Dave in Green]

..... In terms of pure financial data, basketball gives you a much better ROI. .....

ROI = (gain from investment - cost of investment) / cost of investment

[LZIp]

blah a bunch of fudged numbers. Doesnt surprise me though, being a "non" profit. We break exactly even..give me a break.

Very surprised the U spends nearly 6 million in athletic scholarships a year. I wonder how much that breaks down per athlete.

[LZIp]

ROI = (gain from investment - cost of investment) / cost of investment

ROI= Operating Income/total investment.

well I guess both would work.

[GP1]

Here is where Akron's basketball spending is compared to the MAC and the rest of the country for 2011.

I wonder how these will adjust for coaches salaries. My guess is the change wouldn't have much of an impact.

[GP1]

Fascinating that both football and men's basketball programs have exactly the same percentage that are profitable (57%).

Agree. Further, I'm surprised the number is that high...although, some might say they are surprised the number is that low. It's kind of in the glass half full area without it being at 50%.