Captain Kangaroo Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 It must be hard for YSU to sit back and look at the success Can't and Akron, schools no further than 60 miles away, have had in football over the past 25 years and not want to be a part of it. In the insane world of college athletics, I'm surprised it hasn't happened already. It is equally as hard for Akron and K.e.n.t. to watch the rampant success the Penguins have experienced since Tressel's departure. The comment is more directed towards the YSU contingent that annually grouses that the Zips will not play the Penguins. If YSU would move up to 1-A, like UMass, like App State, like Middle Tennessee...then we would play them annually. But since they choose to languish in 1-AA, they should shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 It is equally as hard for Akron and K.e.n.t. to watch the rampant success the Penguins have experienced since Tressel's departure. The comment is more directed towards the YSU contingent that annually grouses that the Zips will not play the Penguins. It's not hard for me to think about because the only time I think about it is when the YSU score goes across the espn crawl. Then I immediately forget again. You shouldn't concern yourself for one second about what mouth breathing ysu fans say about anything. They are exactly where they belong...behind their big brother Akron pulling on our shirt every once in a while seeking attention. I'm not even certain that if they were D1A, I would want to play them every year unless we had to if the MAC went insane and allowed them to enter. In reality, ysu is making a sane choice staying in IAA. Schools like umass and mid tenn could be good some day similar to some of the success Buffalo has had. ysu has no shot at ever competing in D1A. Long term, schools like App State, GA Southern and Charlotte are making big mistakes. App State for example has made a decision that foregoing national championships at IAA in favor of a potential Sun Belt Championship and automatic entry into the New Orleans Bowl is good for their school. I would argue that there will be a lot fewer $40 parking spaces in Boone being filled on game day after the move. At some point, it has nothing to do with balls and everything to do with stupidity. Then again, App State is one of those schools people attend when they can't get accepted at a good school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Georgia Southern (who just knocked off Florida) is also moving to 1-A status. If we get to play Appy State at 1-A status I am OK with this as a series. Now I am even more annoyed we didn't beat Michigan at the Big House, this could have been for the Ann Arbor Championship. So according to fbschedules.com our OOC for the next few years looks like: 2014: 09/06 - at Penn State 09/20 - Marshall 09/27 - at Pittsburgh 2015: 09/05 - at Oklahoma 09/12 - Pittsburgh 09/19 - at UL Lafayette (or 09/26) 2016: 09/10 - at Wisconsin 09/17 - at Marshall 09/?? - Appalachian St. 2017: at Penn State at Appalachian St. Iowa St is in 2018 and 2019. So if we can buy an FCS game in 2014, 2015 and 2016 our schedules look pretty solid with 6 home games each year. Playing App State in 2016 and 2017 as they are just coming into the FBS ranks is fine with me but with that being the case I'd rather not have a FCS school on the schedule those two years. We need a home and home series with a middle of the pack team from a league like the Mountain West as the Zips themselves continue to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Playing App State in 2016 and 2017 as they are just coming into the FBS ranks is fine with me but with that being the case I'd rather not have a FCS school on the schedule those two years. We need a home and home series with a middle of the pack team from a league like the Mountain West as the Zips themselves continue to improve. I'd like to see that too but you couldn't do it without having at least one of the next three years have only five home games. Would be OK with an FCS team each of those years giving six home games a year. Plus at the moment one of those games a year count toward bowl eligibility. We have four good home and homes already included in those years (Marshall, Pitt, Louisiana and now Applachaian St). Thats a good set to have home and home series with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 It's not hard for me to think about because the only time I think about it is when the YSU score goes across the espn crawl. Then I immediately forget again. You shouldn't concern yourself for one second about what mouth breathing ysu fans say about anything. They are exactly where they belong...behind their big brother Akron pulling on our shirt every once in a while seeking attention. I'm not even certain that if they were D1A, I would want to play them every year unless we had to if the MAC went insane and allowed them to enter. Speaking of YSU, eguins must be going berserk watching teams like Lafayette (5-6!), Butler, Sacred Heart etc make the FCS playoffs while the Pens waddle all over Y-Town after losing 3 in a row to end the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Speaking of YSU, eguins must be going berserk watching teams like Lafayette (5-6!), Butler, Sacred Heart etc make the FCS playoffs while the Pens waddle all over Y-Town after losing 3 in a row to end the season. See, you made me think about something I haven't thought about since my last post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 not sure why MTSU was brought up, but they have done pretty well in D-1. Usually finish around .500 or better and have a 10 win season or two sprinkled in. I know I'd love to have that here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 I agree. App State has a good name and they are well down the road to destruction of a once great I-AA program. By the time 2016 comes around, the Zips should be riding high and they will be in the sewer. Should be victories for the Zips both years. I'm looking forward to a trip to the mountains to watch. You say that why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 You say that why? Their program finished 4-8 this season and is in the toilet. A move to IA isn't going to make them all of the sudden better. CFU eventually got good, but it is in Orlando, FL, not Boone, NC. App State is in the middle of nowhere with nothing but a tiny, tiny town and the mountains surrounding it. IAA teams can be really good with a couple of great players who sneak through the cracks at a BCS school for grades or whatever reason and App did that for a long time. They are going to have trouble attracting the kind of players and the number of good players necessary to win in IA. App State was the head of the mouse at one point. Now, they are going to be the ass of the lion. In a few years, all they will be like Miamioh and their endless blathering about tradition without any real recent success. They will all have their "We Beat Michigan" shirts though. I guess that means something to some, but try to tell that to some hillbilly sitting out in the mountain cold in November by himself watching App State finish another 5-7 season. The insanity of college athletics continues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 While I agree on App State, I wouldn't discount Georgia Southern or Charlotte so easily. GSU just strikes me as the kind of program that will be successful. They do not tolerate mediocrity. It's too early to tell with Charlotte, but they have good geography and an athletic department that does a lot of things right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurlingtonApp Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 While I agree on App State, I wouldn't discount Georgia Southern or Charlotte so easily. GSU just strikes me as the kind of program that will be successful. They do not tolerate mediocrity. It's too early to tell with Charlotte, but they have good geography and an athletic department that does a lot of things right. Hey Zip fans! Excited about the series with you guys. Just wanted to come by and correct some of the misinformed, and frankly, ignorant statements that have been said. First of all, yes we struggled this year. We were breaking in a new coach and had nothing to play for, and were awful towards the start of the year. We did win three of our last five, including a 24 point win over Georgia Southern, who doesn't accept mediocrity. One of those losses was to the Georgia Bulldogs and the other was to our conference champion. Despite the record, people continued to come up the mountain for games and we averaged 24,665 at home games this year. So I wouldn't worry about our attendance. Secondly, you say we are a school people go to when they can't get in to a good school. However, our average SAT scores are much about 100 points than yours by the most recent numbers out out by both schools. We have the same average SAT as NC State, an ACC school. Our retention rate is 20% higher than yours. We were the number three ranked regional public university in the south, just behind JMU. We have never feasted on players that couldn't make it academically at BCS schools, don't know where that came from. However, we do have the #2 recruiting class in the Sun Belt next year, thirty spots ahead of yours. With all that said, it should be a good series! I expect a split, with each team winning at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Hey Zip fans! Excited about the series with you guys. Just wanted to come by and correct some of the misinformed, and frankly, ignorant statements that have been said. First of all, yes we struggled this year. We were breaking in a new coach and had nothing to play for, and were awful towards the start of the year. We did win three of our last five, including a 24 point win over Georgia Southern, who doesn't accept mediocrity. One of those losses was to the Georgia Bulldogs and the other was to our conference champion. Despite the record, people continued to come up the mountain for games and we averaged 24,665 at home games this year. So I wouldn't worry about our attendance. Secondly, you say we are a school people go to when they can't get in to a good school. However, our average SAT scores are much about 100 points than yours by the most recent numbers out out by both schools. We have the same average SAT as NC State, an ACC school. Our retention rate is 20% higher than yours. We were the number three ranked regional public university in the south, just behind JMU. We have never feasted on players that couldn't make it academically at BCS schools, don't know where that came from. However, we do have the #2 recruiting class in the Sun Belt next year, thirty spots ahead of yours. Just saw this post after reading about the new Yosef. Maybe BurlingtonApp is smoking the same thing Yosef is. Whatever it is, save some for me when the Zips play in Boone. When a coach retires after going 8-4 and the new coach goes 4-8, there is a problem. It's called breaking down, not breaking in. This should never happen to a program that is ready to make a jump unless they truly don't understand what they are getting in to. In this way, it reminds me of Akron making the move in 1987. In fact, a program ready to make a jump should never hire a coach with only three years of experience of any kind at the D1A level. App State didn't hire a fresh face, they hired a continuation of the previous program as 14 of his 17 years of coaching were spent at App. and he went 4-8 in year one. Please do yourself a favor and look at the bios of his coaching staff. They are a collection of guys with extremely limited experience in D1A football and the App State good old boy club. By the time our games against them roll around, this guy will have App State squarely in the toilet. Akron has forward momentum right now and App State has more of the same that brought them 4-8. I'm really looking forward to the Zips winning both games. Link If by 30 points ahead of Akron in recruiting, that is App. State for no ranking at all, he wins this argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Hey Zip fans! Excited about the series with you guys. Just wanted to come by and correct some of the misinformed, and frankly, ignorant statements that have been said. First of all, yes we struggled this year. We were breaking in a new coach and had nothing to play for, and were awful towards the start of the year. We did win three of our last five, including a 24 point win over Georgia Southern, who doesn't accept mediocrity. One of those losses was to the Georgia Bulldogs and the other was to our conference champion. Despite the record, people continued to come up the mountain for games and we averaged 24,665 at home games this year. So I wouldn't worry about our attendance. Secondly, you say we are a school people go to when they can't get in to a good school. However, our average SAT scores are much about 100 points than yours by the most recent numbers out out by both schools. We have the same average SAT as NC State, an ACC school. Our retention rate is 20% higher than yours. We were the number three ranked regional public university in the south, just behind JMU. We have never feasted on players that couldn't make it academically at BCS schools, don't know where that came from. However, we do have the #2 recruiting class in the Sun Belt next year, thirty spots ahead of yours. With all that said, it should be a good series! I expect a split, with each team winning at home. On this board?...Never... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Nothing will get you a warm welcome like ripping on our school with your first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Bob Stoops' team doing what Bob Stoops' teams do in bowl games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Bob Stoops' team doing what Bob Stoops' teams do in bowl games. What is that?...lead Alabama? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 What is that?...lead Alabama? I hope they prove me wrong lol. This QB has been impressive. Miles ahead of Blake Bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 I hope they prove me wrong lol. This QB has been impressive. Miles ahead of Blake Bell. I dont know what to make of this game. Oklahoma hasnt been overly impressive all year and Alabama has struggled with pretty much everyone as of late. I would still be surprised if Oklahoma wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Oklahoma up 31-17 as the first half winds down. Most points scored in a half against Alabama in the Nick Saban era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hell of a win for Stoops. Always good to see Nicky Satan go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 That was a great game to watch. Love seeing Satan go down. Bama people are calling for their OC head. Now 3 NC in 5 years and they are complaining about an assistant coach. McCarron still has his hottie to go back to at least..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 McCarron still has his hottie to go back to at least.....If you don't know this story about AJ, it's worth seven minutes of your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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