Dr Z Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Who do you like? Feel free to explain your reasoning below. Love the matchup, the old debate of what wins a championship, defense, or offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Denver's strength is their offense and it starts with the line. Denver has the #1 ranked offensive line in the NFL. They are good enough to produce the #1 pass offense in the league and a rush offense in the top half. Seattle's offensive line ranks 23rd while producing the #4 rushing offense while only the #26 passing offense. Not very good balance and what is impressive does not win games in 2013-14. It would be more impressive if those two numbers were turned around. Both teams are tied for rushing defense for 2013. Seattle is #8 in sacks and that is impressive, but not enough to get to Manning enough with the #1 offensive line in front of him and the schemes they use to get rid of the ball quickly. Seattle is #1 in interceptions. Whether or not this matters will depend on how physical the refs allow them to play. The less physical, the more it favors Denver. Bad weather favors Seattle's running game. Denver took apart NE yesterday with machine like precision and they are on a roll. I think their offensive line is going to make the difference in the game and they win in a relatively low scoring game. 27-20. They are too good at too many things. A better team than Seattle all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Denver took apart NE yesterday with machine like precision and they are on a roll. I think their offensive line is going to make the difference in the game and they win in a relatively low scoring game.Denver taking apart NE defense was no surprise, the Browns took them apart a month ago. What I am surprised by, is that Belichick didn't blitz Manning? I will bet Seattle defends differently. BTW Belichick still hasn't won a thing since being fined for cheating, but he doesn't like it when it happens to him. Although I like a lot of what the 49'ers do, I'm happy I don't have to watch this bafoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 What I am surprised by, is that Belichick didn't blitz Manning? I'm sure the injury to his DB probably had a lot to do with it. A key player out of the secondary and blitzing the #1 offensive line in the NFL could have produced a worse loss for them. NE was never going to win yesterday. Between the type of exhausting game Denver plays at high altitude and Brady being a little "off" yesterday, it just wasn't going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 NE's receiving corps was decimated this season. Great QB + ordinary receivers = less than great results. The Pats did well to get as far as they did. I'm just glad to have a Super Bowl where I'll feel good no matter which team wins. It's going to be pure entertainment and no downside for me as I have no particular dislike of either Seattle or Denver with Manning at QB. I just hope to see a close, exciting game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 22 Brief Thoughts About That Richard Sherman Interview 8. If you stick a microphone in a football player’s face seconds after he made a huge play to send his team to the Super Bowl, you shouldn’t be surprised if he’s a little amped up. 9. Ninety-nine percent of on-field interviews are boring and useless. The TV networks do them anyway for the 1 percent of the time they get a moment like Richard Sherman. 10. As a reporter and writer, that raw emotion — whatever form it takes — is exactly what I hope for. That’s why media people fight for access to locker rooms. After players and coaches cool off, most of them turn into Crash Davis, reading from the book of cliches. 11. But we — the media, and fans in general — don’t know what we want. We rip athletes for giving us boring quotes. But if they say what they actually feel, we rip them for spouting off or showing a lack of class One of the best post game interviews EVER! LOB is coming Peyton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Seahawks 23-17. Give me the best defense over the best offense every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 This isn't even close. The Sea hawks have one guy on their practice squad who played in the MAC. The Broncos have two guys on their practice squad and 2 guys on their active roster. This boils down to a 14 point advantage for Denver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-zip Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I want Peyton Manning to throw a last second TD over Richard Sherman for the win and then see the post game interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 This isn't even close. The Sea hawks have one guy on their practice squad who played in the MAC. The Broncos have two guys on their practice squad and 2 guys on their active roster. This boils down to a 14 point advantage for Denver. The only MAC player I see on the Denver roster is Zac Dysert from Miami. You may have to downgrade your point spread to 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I want Peyton Manning to throw a last second TD over Richard Sherman for the win and then see the post game interview. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I want Peyton Manning to throw a last second TD over Richard Sherman for the win and then see the post game interview.That will be a pretty tall order. Since entering the league Sherman leads it in picks, passes defended, and QB's have the lowest rating when targeting him. If Manning goes his way with those wobbly passes he was throwing against NE, it will be six the other way. I don't expect Manning to challenge him downfield. LOB. For those confused by Sherman's ridiculous antics after the play. Here is the backstory to Sherman vs Crabtree While there, Sherman went to shake Crabtree's hand, and Crabtree tried to start a fight. Hate Sherman's rant? It's got nothing on Belichick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Defense Still Wins Championships Top 25 Scoring Defenses Since 2002, Reaching Super Bowl Let's take a quick run through the Super Bowl teams featuring defenses ranking among the top 25 in points allowed among all teams since 2002. 1. 2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers: They upset the high-scoring Raiders. 4. 2008 Pittsburgh Steelers: They beat the Cardinals. 7. 2013 Seattle Seahawks: They will play Manning's Broncos in Super Bowl XLVIII. 8. 2010 Pittsburgh Steelers: This Steelers team lost its Super Bowl matchup against the Green Bay Packers. That Packers offense featured Aaron Rodgers, but it ranked only 115th in points scored since 2002. Rodgers' presence raised the ceiling in a one-game situation. 12. 2003 New England Patriots: These Patriots won an unexpected shootout against the Carolina Panthers. Both teams had been much better on defense than on offense, but it didn't show in the game. 13. 2010 Green Bay Packers: The Packers have been known for offense with Rodgers, but this Super Bowl-winning team ranked much higher in defensive scoring. 21. 2006 Chicago Bears: Manning's lone Super Bowl victory to this point came at the Bears' expense. 22. 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers: They beat the Seahawks. T-25. 2004 New England Patriots: These Patriots allowed 260 points, same as the NFC champion Eagles allowed. New England won it all, of course. T-25. 2004 Philadelphia Eagles: Top 25 Scoring Offenses Since 2002 We now take a quick run through the Super Bowl teams featuring offenses ranking among the top 25 in points allowed among all teams since 2002. 1. 2013 Denver Broncos: They're in Super Bowl XLVIII after setting an NFL record with 606 points. 2. 2007 New England Patriots: These were the 16-0 Patriots, who were heavily favored against a New York Giants team whose defense ranked 216th in scoring out of the 384 defenses since 2002. Those Giants had a deep rotation along their defensive front; so do the current Seahawks. 8. 2011 New England Patriots: This Patriots team lost to the Giants once again. This Giants defense ranked 315th in scoring since 2002, but it held New England to 17 points. 9. 2009 New Orleans Saints: This team won it all at the expense of Manning's Colts. Both offenses were stronger than the corresponding defenses, but the Saints' offense ranked highest by a wide margin. 22. 2005 Seattle Seahawks: They lost to the Steelers. 23. 2002 Oakland Raiders: They lost to the Bucs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Defense Still Wins Championships Top 25 Scoring Defenses Since 2002, Reaching Super Bowl Let's take a quick run through the Super Bowl teams featuring defenses ranking among the top 25 in points allowed among all teams since 2002. 1. 2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers: They upset the high-scoring Raiders. 4. 2008 Pittsburgh Steelers: They beat the Cardinals. 7. 2013 Seattle Seahawks: They will play Manning's Broncos in Super Bowl XLVIII. 8. 2010 Pittsburgh Steelers: This Steelers team lost its Super Bowl matchup against the Green Bay Packers. That Packers offense featured Aaron Rodgers, but it ranked only 115th in points scored since 2002. Rodgers' presence raised the ceiling in a one-game situation. 12. 2003 New England Patriots: These Patriots won an unexpected shootout against the Carolina Panthers. Both teams had been much better on defense than on offense, but it didn't show in the game. 13. 2010 Green Bay Packers: The Packers have been known for offense with Rodgers, but this Super Bowl-winning team ranked much higher in defensive scoring. 21. 2006 Chicago Bears: Manning's lone Super Bowl victory to this point came at the Bears' expense. 22. 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers: They beat the Seahawks. T-25. 2004 New England Patriots: These Patriots allowed 260 points, same as the NFC champion Eagles allowed. New England won it all, of course. T-25. 2004 Philadelphia Eagles: Top 25 Scoring Offenses Since 2002 We now take a quick run through the Super Bowl teams featuring offenses ranking among the top 25 in points allowed among all teams since 2002. 1. 2013 Denver Broncos: They're in Super Bowl XLVIII after setting an NFL record with 606 points. 2. 2007 New England Patriots: These were the 16-0 Patriots, who were heavily favored against a New York Giants team whose defense ranked 216th in scoring out of the 384 defenses since 2002. Those Giants had a deep rotation along their defensive front; so do the current Seahawks. 8. 2011 New England Patriots: This Patriots team lost to the Giants once again. This Giants defense ranked 315th in scoring since 2002, but it held New England to 17 points. 9. 2009 New Orleans Saints: This team won it all at the expense of Manning's Colts. Both offenses were stronger than the corresponding defenses, but the Saints' offense ranked highest by a wide margin. 22. 2005 Seattle Seahawks: They lost to the Steelers. 23. 2002 Oakland Raiders: They lost to the Bucs. Playing better than the other team and scoring more points in the Super Bowl wins championships. Everything else is a cliche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 22 Brief Thoughts About That Richard Sherman Interview I loved the Sherman interview because it brought the fans closer to the game, which is the purpose of the media. For the first time, Sherman revealed to a lot of football fans what it sounds like on the field during the game when players are talking. The actually say things like that all the time in the exact way he said it. He should be thanked for the interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 The only MAC player I see on the Denver roster is Zac Dysert from Miami. You may have to downgrade your point spread to 7. Still 14; better look again closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Thought some may like this, since most will play at a SB party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 More fun, from Sports Illustrated: I knew I liked Richard. Smart shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Give me the 'hawks with Manning throwing a game clinching Int, probably to Sherman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Is anyone still watching the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Loving every minute! I only wish more people bet on Denver so the money line was bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 @Dr Z, you must have bet on the Seahawks. For those of us who've tuned out, be sure to let us know the final score of the blowout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Free money IMO. I cheated though, I watched every Hawks game this year. I knew how dominating their D could be. Shut down the best offense in history?!? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Seahawks 23-17. Give me the best defense over the best offense every time.Shouldn't have included the score. Still, give me the best defense every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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