Jrship35 Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 18,000 is the new number. Up 97% you can bet your ass the ABJ won't be talking about that!http://www.hustlebelt.com/2015/12/18/10615302/mid-american-conference-football-attendance-numbers-down-fbs-group-of-fiveHow about EMU? Sheesh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris buttermaker Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 18,000 is great ...Does that include all the free tickets distributed and not used etc - or physical people in the stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziptrumpet87 Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 I think looking at the stands a few times that it's pretty obvious it includes tickets sold/given and not actual attendance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 regardless of the method (I'm sure zip trumpet is right), it is safe to assume that the same metric was used last year. As long as all things are consistent, its a 97% increase either way and still counts for something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 regardless of the method (I'm sure zip trumpet is right), it is safe to assume that the same metric was used last year. As long as all things are consistent, its a 97% increase either way and still counts for something.Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a requirement that teams surpass 15k average once every 2 years? If that's the case last years numbers likely weren't inflated much, if at all, but the school would have needed to guarantee that they hit 15k+ this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris buttermaker Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) regardless of the method (I'm sure zip trumpet is right), it is safe to assume that the same metric was used last year. As long as all things are consistent, its a 97% increase either way and still counts for something.That's just it ... I don't think it's the same metric / or giveaway as the previous yr. this year I believe there was a massive alumni ticket giveaway-- what that amounted to is probably a big reason for such an incredible increase.I know what I saw at the 2 games I went to-- I'm curious to know what the apples to apples increase was.... People in the stands - free or not - who showed up Edited December 19, 2015 by morris buttermaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 regardless of the method (I'm sure zip trumpet is right), it is safe to assume that the same metric was used last year. As long as all things are consistent, its a 97% increase either way and still counts for something.Agreed, as long as it's also the same method used by everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris buttermaker Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 It would be nice to know what the interest level is for Akron football-- how many people go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Roo Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Measure is tickets sold or actual home attendance. Zips have consistantly used tickets sold. The massive alumni give-away would only count if some one (alumni association or a sponsor) bought the tickets at at least 50% of face value.I recall corporate sponsors buying blocks of tickets back in the 80's when we moved up. We have never averaged 17k actual butts in seats.If I recall, back then, you could go with 17k home paid or 25k home and away. Which meant one game at Ohio State and you were good for 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGazoo Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 There were 9,800 alumni tickets sent out for every game, so the announced total includes that number. My guy in the ticket office tells me that the following totals were what was actually in the stadium this season.Pittsburgh, 10,389 actual, 21,840 announced = 11,451 fudgeSavannah State, 3,562 actual, 15,883 announced = 12,321 fudgeOhio, 3,612 actual, 16,718 announced = 13,106 fudgeCentral Michigan, 3,659 actual, 18,568 announced = 14,909 fudgeBuffalo, 2,458 actual, 15,162 announced = 12,704 fudgeCan't State, 4,240 actual, 16,134 announced = 11,814 fudgeAs you can see, there is a wide variance between actual people in the stadium and the number of tickets they send out. On average its a fudge of 12,717 imaginary fans per game. Pretty depressing numbers. Hard to have any credibility when you are making stuff up like this. Even the Pitt game had more imaginary fans than real fans in the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGazoo Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 The current NCAA rule is as follows:Average at least 15,000 in actual or paid attendance for all home football contests over a rolling two-year period. [bylaw 20.9.9.3]http://https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Football%20Bowl%20Subqa%2012%208%2014.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Name any big event that doesn't use tickets sold to measure attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 The last two years isn't a 15k average no matter what numbers they use... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Name any big event that doesn't use tickets sold to measure attendance.Any Steeler game since they've been around uses actual butts in seats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Any Steeler game since they've been around uses actual butts in seatsIt's not hard when the event is sold out and everyone shows up. Come to think of it, do you have any evidence to support this contention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Yeah because 100 percent attendance is common Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Per this article the Steelers and Giants report actual attendance http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24775640/goodell-talks-to-steelers-owner-about-fan-no-show-problem-at-home-games via http://cbssportsapp.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Anyone would be a fool if they didn't use whichever method allowable to report the HIGHEST number, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Unless everyone knows it's BS and it becomes a joke. What's the point in even reporting if it's 10K off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Anyone would be a fool if they didn't use whichever method allowable to report the HIGHEST number, right?For a team like Akron who struggles to meet NCAAF 15k minimum standards, definitely. For a team like OSU who gets 100k+ either way, I'm not sure it matters much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 After reading that article that Zippy5 posted, it kinda makes sense for BIG programs/Pro teams to report actual attendance. Why? Because there's a formula behind how much attendance affects concessions and merchandising sales. If people are not showing up, you need to know it so you can address it. 19,000 people not showing up to a Monday-night game in 2013 would be devastating to a program that is used to having no-show attendance of 3-4k. Since those people are "no-shows" that means they did buy a ticket right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 WalletHub’s number crunchers compared the 245 of the largest U.S. cities based on 18 key metrics, ranging from the number of NFL and college football teams to average ticket prices. Akron has the 107th ranked football fans. There are six MAC football cities ranked in the top 100. DeKalb, Bowling Green, Mt. Pleasant, Toledo, Buffalo, Athens, & Oxford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 4 hours ago, Dr Z said: WalletHub’s number crunchers compared the 245 of the largest U.S. cities based on 18 key metrics, ranging from the number of NFL and college football teams to average ticket prices. Akron has the 107th ranked football fans. There are six MAC football cities ranked in the top 100. DeKalb, Bowling Green, Mt. Pleasant, Toledo, Buffalo, Athens, & Oxford. With exception of Buffalo and Toledo all of those schools are in the middle of nowhere. I'm in Dekalb right now and there is not exactly a lot to do here on a Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 On 12/21/2015 at 3:32 PM, TheGreatGazoo said: There were 9,800 alumni tickets sent out for every game, so the announced total includes that number. My guy in the ticket office tells me that the following totals were what was actually in the stadium this season. Pittsburgh, 10,389 actual, 21,840 announced = 11,451 fudge Savannah State, 3,562 actual, 15,883 announced = 12,321 fudge Ohio, 3,612 actual, 16,718 announced = 13,106 fudge Central Michigan, 3,659 actual, 18,568 announced = 14,909 fudge Buffalo, 2,458 actual, 15,162 announced = 12,704 fudge Can't State, 4,240 actual, 16,134 announced = 11,814 fudge As you can see, there is a wide variance between actual people in the stadium and the number of tickets they send out. On average its a fudge of 12,717 imaginary fans per game. Pretty depressing numbers. Hard to have any credibility when you are making stuff up like this. Even the Pitt game had more imaginary fans than real fans in the stadium. I was at that game and just from being on the Concourse(like everyone else due to the Monsoon), there was more than 10k at that game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-zip Posted February 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) On December 21, 2015 at 3:32 PM, TheGreatGazoo said: There were 9,800 alumni tickets sent out for every game, so the announced total includes that number. My guy in the ticket office tells me that the following totals were what was actually in the stadium this season. Pittsburgh, 10,389 actual, 21,840 announced = 11,451 fudge Savannah State, 3,562 actual, 15,883 announced = 12,321 fudge Ohio, 3,612 actual, 16,718 announced = 13,106 fudge Central Michigan, 3,659 actual, 18,568 announced = 14,909 fudge Buffalo, 2,458 actual, 15,162 announced = 12,704 fudge Can't State, 4,240 actual, 16,134 announced = 11,814 fudge As you can see, there is a wide variance between actual people in the stadium and the number of tickets they send out. On average its a fudge of 12,717 imaginary fans per game. Pretty depressing numbers. Hard to have any credibility when you are making stuff up like this. Even the Pitt game had more imaginary fans than real fans in the stadium. Based on the "actual" attendance numbers listed here, if you combined all the actual butts in seats from the ENTIRE year - there would not be enough to fill the Info in a single game. And people wonder why we don't get better recruits Edited February 14, 2016 by a-zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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