Buckzip Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Winning helps cure attendance issues. Akron has not been a consistent winner since moving to D1. I still don't understand how UA was able to sell out for the Acme Zip game every year in the RB but can't get real attendance at Info. Until I moved to Atlanta 11 years ago I attended at least 3-4 games every year. Even now, if we come home for Thanksgiving and their is a home game, we are there. I don't feel students have changed. I don't think it was was ever the students that created the larger attendance figures. It was Joe Akron, especially at the RB With students what I don't understand is how they aren't attending games when it is right on campus. That is mind boggling to me. Apparently there is a real lack of marketing going on for Akron football. Do all of them have better things to do on a Saturday afternoon than go to a game? Some high school games have more attendance than Akron games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Oddly enough I felt the tailgating experience was better at the RB. Everyone is much more spread out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Buckzip said: I don't feel students have changed. I don't think it was was ever the students that created the larger attendance figures. It was Joe Akron Students turn into Joe Akron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 54 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Students turn into Joe Akron Rednecks, white socks and Blue Ribbon beer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 1 hour ago, zippy5 said: Students turn into Joe Akron Good point. But when you get older and have a family it is a cheap night out to go to a college football game. Maybe more Saturday night games would help early in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, Buckzip said: But when you get older and have a family it is a cheap night out to go to a college football game. This is why I can't understand there not being more ppl at the games. Even if they're not really Zips fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 26 minutes ago, K92 said: Rednecks, white socks and Blue Ribbon beer? If all goes well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 If winning was all it took to draw decent crowds, the JAR would be sold out way more than it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: If winning was all it took to draw decent crowds, the JAR would be sold out way more than it is. JAR to the Info is apples to oranges 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, zippy5 said: JAR to the Info is apples to oranges Different sport, different excuses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, zippy5 said: JAR to the Info is apples to oranges Different sport, different excuses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 2 hours ago, kreed5120 said: If winning was all it took to draw decent crowds, the JAR would be sold out way more than it is. You can say it 1,000 times on here, and still, some people will choose to ignore it and create their own delusional theory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 40 minutes ago, skip-zip said: You can say it 1,000 times on here, and still, some people will choose to ignore it and create their own delusional theory. The JAR draws to capacity for big games, when the Zips are competing for championships. That is an irrefutable fact. You can verify it on Wikipedia if you weren't there. InfoCision would draw near it's measly 27k-ish capacity if the Zips football team was playing games of equivalent magnitude. But they haven't...haven't even sniffed a whiff of equivalent success at InfoCision. So there's been no such crowds. There's no tangible comparison between basketball and football whatsoever. Maybe that Zips football drew 15k to Ford Field for the MCB, and Zips basketball drew 3k the last time they played in Detroit (Auburn Hills)? Maybe that is tangible? But not if it doesn't fit your narrative, I guess. Go Zips! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip_ME87 Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 8 hours ago, kreed5120 said: If winning was all it took to draw decent crowds, the JAR would be sold out way more than it is. Not if it is against Arkansas Pine Bluff, Malone, Coppin State, Bethune Cookman, ... The same schedule that keeps the Zips from getting at large NCAA Tourney berths also does not excite people to show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 15 hours ago, K92 said: Rednecks, white socks and Blue Ribbon beer? Blue Ribbon Beer: bringing hipsters and rednecks together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 To really test the max-capacity-competing hypothesis for the Zips is difficult. They either need to pull of an impressive win in OCC, or be running something like an undefeated season. The problem with the having a good MAC-season, is when the Zips would be (hypothetically speaking of course) 6-2, the last four games are on Weekday nights. You could realistically be 8-2 as Akron, and have your next game against Ohio (which should draw lot more people considering the situation, than usual) on a Tuesday night. Would we have more than usual? YES. Would we have the max-capacity draw for a Zips game? No, unfortunately I don't think they'd get close to what they can draw on a Saturday. On the flip side, if the Zips were able to stun the nation with an upset win against the like of Penn State in the season opener (or something like that scenario) we'd definitely see a spike in attendance to what we regular are used to seeing, if just students alone. Zips have an opportunity next year 2018... @Nebraska and @Northwestern, to get their crap together and pull-off 1... or god forbid 2 ... Big-10 wins, then we really could test the hypothesis. Until we get the opportunity to really test it, which we haven't, then we'll never know where Zips football sits on possibility. We do KNOW where Zips Basketball stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Zip_ME87 said: Not if it is against Arkansas Pine Bluff, Malone, Coppin State, Bethune Cookman, .. Correct. You just brought us back to "quality of our competitors". The people we need to get on board in this city to make a significant increase are not going to come because we're "winning more", or because we're "a MAC contender". Those people don't pay enough attention to our record or the MAC football standings to tell you if we're 8-2 or 2-8. Or whether we're in first place or fifth place. Many couldn't even tell you that the MAC teams play in the same football division that produces the National Champion. But if Akron were to knock off just one single opponent of significance in major college football, it would turn heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 10 hours ago, Zip_ME87 said: Not if it is against Arkansas Pine Bluff, Malone, Coppin State, Bethune Cookman, ... The same schedule that keeps the Zips from getting at large NCAA Tourney berths also does not excite people to show up. We couldn't even sell out VCU the year after they went to the Final 4... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 58 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: We couldn't even sell out VCU the year after they went to the Final 4... Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 6 hours ago, kreed5120 said: We couldn't even sell out VCU the year after they went to the Final 4... We actually didn't sell out ANY games that year. And with the 2 teams already losing a combined 8 games to start the season, the potential Blockbuster match-up and sellout crowd simply wasn't going to happen on a Thursday night between Christmas and New Years with the students on break. However, you may want to judge it in relation to the other games that year before you consider it to be some kind of disappointment, just because it wasn't a Sellout. It still exceeded the attendance of any game up to that point of the season by a wide margin....and it surpassed the attendance of all but 4 games the entire season. And ALL of those other 4 games were on Saturday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 I remember selling out North Dakota State. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 hour ago, LZIp said: I remember selling out North Dakota State. I remember it getting loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 I feel like we've had this discussion once or ten times before 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 24 minutes ago, zippy5 said: I feel like we've had this discussion once or ten times before We are a redundant bunch, for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, LZIp said: I remember selling out North Dakota State. Not even close. Only 4,400 for a Friday night Bracketbuster Game on ESPN2. But that season did have good crowds. There were 3 straight conference games of 5,000+ to close that year. FYI: Not the same year as the VCU home game, if that what you were thinking. Edited July 2, 2017 by skip-zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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