Hilltopper Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I don't think the team is lacking confidence. I would say that as currently comprised , we are lacking in experience at closing out close games. The coaching staff is currently working on finding out who should be on the floor at the end now that Noah is out for the remainder of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I've also thought about this over the last week or so.There could be a real benefit to playing on Mon. and Wed. in the MAC Tourney. 1) More chances to get to 20+ wins.2) More postseason experience for the youngsters. I hate to be talking about a nearly impossible road to a Saturday title game, but those are the cards we've been dealt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 There could be a real benefit to playing on Mon. and Wed. in the MAC Tourney. 1) More chances to get to 20+ wins19 or 20 wins, if neither meant a bid to a tournament, what is the difference? I see zero benefit for the team. I get that it's fun for a few fans to try to justify some of their arguments, but that's about it. Postseason experience for this young(er) team would be very beneficial. It's just too bad it would be without Noah. With the way this team shoots, I hold little hope for post season success. I would love to be proven wrong. I saw a banner for the MAC tourney during an outside shot last night during the Cavs game. That got my blood pumping. If no type of tournament were involved, one could argue that 19 wins may actually be better than 20 for the future success of this team and staff. It might place a sense of urgency around the program, as opposed to complacency that it seems to be mired in. Doubt it, but it's possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 19 or 20 wins, if neither meant a bid to a tournament, what is the difference? I see zero benefit for the team. I get that it's fun for a few fans to try to justify some of their arguments, but that's about it. ...Right, thisZips are one of only eight programs with at least 21-plus wins in each of the last eight seasons (Akron, Duke, Florida, Gonzaga, Kansas, Ohio State, Pittsburgh and Syracuse)has nothing to do with thisGorman’s Robotham chooses Akron“I built my career on winning, and they have 20-plus wins every year,” Robotham said. “That’s something I’m used to doing, and I don’t plan on changing.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Sadly, I think the above post helps prove my point.I know who they are. Maybe you're giving them to much credit? I just don't think they are very good, and I tend to pull mightily for the non-power conference teams. I'd love to get a matchup like that if I were a #13 coming out of the MAC. Their lack of experience on a bigger stage is also added advantage to being their opponent. Todays Yahoo Sports Headline: Interpretive Dance: Little giant Northern Iowa a legit Final Four contender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Sadly, I think the above post helps prove my point.Todays Yahoo Sports Headline: Interpretive Dance: Little giant Northern Iowa a legit Final Four contenderSo, I should have a more favorable opinion of their chances at a title run, just because a Yahoo sportswriter feels that they do?Again, I will pull for them, big time. I like what they represent. But, as I stated, if I were a #13 MAC team, I'd love that matchup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 So, I should have a more favorable opinion of their chances at a title run, just because a Yahoo sportswriter feels that they do?Just thought you might enjoy reading since it was in a previous discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Sadly, I think the above post helps prove my point. ...Sadly, maybe one of us is missing the other's point. You said winning 20 games had no more benefit for the team than winning 19. Recruiting is important to the team. Noah is the most important recruit the Zips have landed in years. Noah publicly stated that a major reason why he chose UA over other schools is because the Zips "have 20-plus wins every year." Ergo, continuing the streak of 20-plus win seasons does have a benefit for the team in recruiting quality players like Noah who are attracted by the prospect of winning 20-plus games every year. It's a small psychological factor. But UA needs every little factor in its favor that can be mustered to try to attract quality players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 maybe one of us is missing the other's point.Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Agreed.Pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Updated the OP.Go Miami (today only)! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 For a couple of you who have felt the need to flex your prognostication skills recently, Northern Iowa got beat badly by Wichita today.Just thought I'd point that out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Miami did not help us out by losing to BG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 For a couple of you who have felt the need to flex your prognostication skills recently, Northern Iowa got beat badly by Wichita today.Just thought I'd point that out Wichita is ranked 11th and UNI smacked them at home so I'm not sure today's game would mean much one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Miami did not help us out by losing to BG.It looked like they had them too. That's disappointing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 So we need to win out and either:1) Can't beats Buffalo, BG loses to both Can't and Buffalo.OR2) Buffalo beats Can't, then loses to either Ohio or BG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Good to know the possible scenarios, as unlikely as they may be. But don't forget the MAC West:If CMU loses their last three games and the Zips win their last two, both would have 11-7 records and the Zips own the tiebreaker by virtue of winning the only game between the two teams this seasonIf Toledo loses their last three games and the Zips win their final two, the Zips finish 11-7 to UT's 10-8.We'll know at the end of this evening if either of those unlikely possibilities is still in play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Kd indicated on his postgame last night that if we win out that we can tie for first in the MAC. Is this correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 A whole bunch of teams (including the Zips) could end up tied at the top at 11-7 if every single game came out a certain way. Odds of that many games going a certain way are right up there in lotto land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Good to know the possible scenarios, as unlikely as they may be. But don't forget the MAC West:If CMU loses their last three games and the Zips win their last two, both would have 11-7 records and the Zips own the tiebreaker by virtue of winning the only game between the two teams this seasonIf Toledo loses their last three games and the Zips win their final two, the Zips finish 11-7 to UT's 10-8.We'll know at the end of this evening if either of those unlikely possibilities is still in play.Good call on CMU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Toledo (11-5) has beaten Ball State, so the best the Zips can do now is tie them at 11-7, and UT owns the tie-breaker. Buffalo (10-6) has beaten Can't (10-6), 71-65, which is an OK result as they're both now just one game ahead of the Zips. And NIU is surprisingly stomping CMU at halftime, 33-20, which is good for the Zips. So the situation is still fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 1) 11-5 - Central Michigan - Remaining: Toledo, at WMU2) 11-5 - Toledo - Remaining: at CMU, at EMU.3) 11-5 - Bowling Green - Remaining: Can't, at Buffalo.4) 10-6 - Buffalo - Remaining: Ohio, BG5) 10-6 - Can't State - Remaining: at BG, Akron6) 9-7 - Akron - Remaining: at Miami, at Can't7) 9-7 - Western Michigan - Remaining: at NIU, CMU8) 7-9 - Miami9) 6-10 - Eastern Michigan10) 6-10 - Northern Illinois11) 4-12 - Ohio12) 2-14 - Ball StateIf Akron beats Miami, things start to get very, very interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Hard to wrap my head around this:We beat Miami, BG beats Can't, we beat Can'tWe are 11-7, Can't is 10-6, we move upBG beats Buffalo, they are also 10-6BG and Ohio beat Buffalo, they are 10-6CMU beats UT and WMU, they are 13-5UT is beat by EMU, they are 11-7WMU is no better than 10-6SOThat scenario leaves us behind CMU, tied with UT. I think we would get the fourth seed????Now I have a headache.IF we win out, we are 11-7That WILL put us ahead of Can't.Never mind, this is way too complicated. Let's just win out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 CMU loss was huge. NIU was their easiest remaining game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 I started putting together scenarios then decided to wait to see if we beat Miami first lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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