2016-17 Schedule

[UAZip0510]

On 4/19/2016 at 4:52 PM, Sportsjunkie330 said:

 

I don't think its the predictions that question the credibility of his posts....

 

He knows more about the program than anyone here.  

On 4/19/2016 at 6:31 PM, Valpo Zip said:

 

I don't know about the several others you are referring to, but I can speak for myself. I hear the argument about the "scheduling difficulties", I just don't buy it. Does that offend you? Am I not entitled to my own opinion?

As long as mid majors with very similar programs are able to get decent OOC schedules, we should too. If McFadden or McNeese cannot get it done, they should make way to someone who can. That's the fact!

Also, just because you think that Akron will never get an at large bid doesn't make it a fact.

  

 

You're talking about the careers of people when you have no idea what takes place.  You're entitled to an opinion, but maybe research a bit before the "they should make way" stuff comes out.  I'm afraid you won't realize what we have here until it's gone.

[Valpo Zip]

4 hours ago, UAZip0510 said:

 

You're talking about the careers of people when you have no idea what takes place.  You're entitled to an opinion, but maybe research a bit before the "they should make way" stuff comes out.  I'm afraid you won't realize what we have here until it's gone.

That's the difference between you and me. I want the best for the zips basket ball program, you want to make sure your friends keep their jobs. 

[clarkwgriswold]

I think some of us understand that UA is trying to improve the schedule, but at the same time, I can't understand the pi$$y attitude towards fans wanting that stronger schedule or challenging the credibility of statements about things like UA joining the ACC or questioning UA turning down $60K to play.  It's a DISCUSSION based forum, not an "I'll take my keyboard and go home now" forum because you're somehow offended by the other side of the discussion.

[skip-zip]

12 hours ago, UAZip0510 said:

He knows more about the program than anyone here.  

 

This is so silly, and adds nothing to the discussion.  The truth is, you have no idea how, and to what level that most of us are connected to our Athletic Program.  How could you know that?

[Hilltopper]

55 minutes ago, skip-zip said:

 

This is so silly, and adds nothing to the discussion.  The truth is, you have no idea how, and to what level that most of us are connected to our Athletic Program.  How could you know that?

How many coaching staff meetings have you attended?

[LZIp]

1 hour ago, skip-zip said:

 

This is so silly, and adds nothing to the discussion.  The truth is, you have no idea how, and to what level that most of us are connected to our Athletic Program.  How could you know that?

He knows so much about the program that Mrs. Dambrot had to come on here to correct him.

[Sportsjunkie330]

9 minutes ago, LZIp said:

He knows so much about the program that Mrs. Dambrot had to come on here to correct him.

 

You beat me to it.

[UAZip0510]

10 hours ago, Valpo Zip said:

That's the difference between you and me. I want the best for the zips basket ball program, you want to make sure your friends keep their jobs. 

 

Kind of an irresponsible statement, no?  While you are incorrect about this perceived intent of mine, the good news is the coaches don't need any help from me or anyone else on ZN because they're already the best the conference has to offer.  I want the best for the program and I feel very strongly that the people we have in place are the ones who will get us where we want to be.  You would seemingly rather go with others, and that's fine.  Our opinions are so much on the polar extremes that it's unlikely we'll find much middle ground.    

Edited April 21, 2016 by UAZip0510

[UAZip0510]

1 hour ago, skip-zip said:

 

This is so silly, and adds nothing to the discussion.  The truth is, you have no idea how, and to what level that most of us are connected to our Athletic Program.  How could you know that?

 

This all started by people questioning GoZips' credibility.  Why was that OK but my suggestion that he knows more was not?

 

To answer your question though, you can tell by the content of the posts who has some type of connection and who is just spitballing ideas.  

[zippy5]

I don't think anyone said they'd rather have another coach.

[UAZip0510]

21 minutes ago, LZIp said:

He knows so much about the program that Mrs. Dambrot had to come on here to correct him.

 

Did she correct him on anything he said regarding scheduling?

[clarkwgriswold]

33 minutes ago, UAZip0510 said:

 

Kind of an irresponsible statement, no?  While you are incorrect about this perceived intent of mine, the good news is the coaches don't need any help from me or anyone else on ZN because they're already the best the conference has to offer.  I want the best for the program and I feel very strongly that the people we have in place are the ones who will get us where we want to be.  You would seemingly rather go with others, and that's fine.  Our opinions are so much on the polar extremes that it's unlikely we'll find much middle ground.    

 

The only goof on here that I recall wanting changes was some guy with a name like Old Man Crowe, after the tournament.  Making suggestions to improve the schedule isn't an indictment of the program's leadership.

 

GoZips was corrected for essentially defaming the Courage Award winner by completely misidentfying and mischaracterizing her.  

 

 

[UAZip0510]

11 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said:

 

The only goof on here that I recall wanting changes was some guy with a name like Old Man Crowe, after the tournament.  Making suggestions to improve the schedule isn't an indictment of the program's leadership.

 

GoZips was corrected for essentially defaming the Courage Award winner by completely misidentfying and mischaracterizing her.  

 

 

 

Valpo said, "As long as mid majors with very similar programs are able to get decent OOC schedules, we should too. If McFadden or McNeese cannot get it done, they should make way to someone who can. That's the fact!"

 

That seems to suggest change to me.  I understand your point on GoZips.  

Edited April 21, 2016 by UAZip0510

[lance99]

2 hours ago, clarkwgriswold said:

I think some of us understand that UA is trying to improve the schedule, but at the same time, I can't understand the pi$$y attitude towards fans wanting that stronger schedule or challenging the credibility of statements about things like UA joining the ACC or questioning UA turning down $60K to play.  It's a DISCUSSION based forum, not an "I'll take my keyboard and go home now" forum because you're somehow offended by the other side of the discussion.

 

The Stronger Schedule topic has been around since the 27-win Team that could not get into any Tournament. Let's face it that Schedule that year was ok, but nothing to write home about.

 

The Miami Death Marches was brought up. Do you really want that Gauntlet of games every year? I wish that on NO Mid-Major.

 

I am just a Joe-Akron, but in my eyes you have Three options:

-Do what Miami did for cash and get killed.

-In Season Tournaments(and NO, I am not excited about the possibility of playing an historically Basketball-Poor East Carolina)

-Do what the Missouri Valley did years ago: Force all Conference teams to schedule better of get kicked out.

 

Now, on to the ACC claim:

 

If, and I do mean IF that was on the table, that means either:

-The new Arena was the holdup

-Had a Travel Partner

-We were one of the final options

-Did not have the Cash/ Had someone to buyout the remainder of the MAC Deal(at that time)

-Needed a body if Louisville agreement feel apart at the last moment(see MAC Deal)

 

This part is not a slight on said claim, I just don't buy it without actual proof..... 

 

The AAC part I do believe because of this:

 

Go back when the Then-Big East was having their Indoor Track Tournament on Campus and I said back then that were at least "Snooping Around" to see what Akron had. Keep in mind at that point, that Conference was already on the Ropes and was looking to stay together somehow.

 

 

[zippyman23]

On 4/13/2016 at 4:41 PM, GoZips said:

ACC schools that did not to have the courtesy to even respond.

 

 

On 4/14/2016 at 9:14 AM, GoZips said:

 

Louisville is on my next list. They turned Akron down COLD.

 

 

On 4/14/2016 at 9:14 AM, GoZips said:

 

Florida State's loss to Akron in the NIT nearly cost Lenard Hamilton his job.

 

On 4/14/2016 at 9:14 AM, GoZips said:

People (idiots) poke fun at my comments about going to the ACC or other conferences.

 

Only people inside the program know how close the Zips were to joining the ACC or AAC. In time they will.

 

 

To summarize, ACC schools do not return Akron's call, turn them down if they do, and a loss to Akron could result in the firing of their head coach. Despite that, these schools were close to inviting Akron to join their conference? We're "idiots" not to believe that? 

 

Edited April 21, 2016 by zippyman23

[K92]

1 hour ago, zippyman23 said:

 

 

 

 

To summarize, ACC schools do not return Akron's call, turn them down if they do, and a loss to Akron could result in the firing of their head coach. Despite that, these schools were close to inviting Akron to join their conference? We're "idiots" not to believe that? 

 

[GoZips]

Well, well, some good news.

 

It seems that the Zips are not so poisonous to some quality teams.

 

P5 teams that need to bolster their OOC Strength of Schedule are finding Akron a good choice.

 

Explanation: P5 programs that are in the top one-third of their conference have no desire to risk

losing to the Zips. Nor do teams in the bottom one-third. However, those teams that are "bubble"

teams are eyeing the Zips as a way to improve their Strength of Schedule, And, win or lose it

does not really matter. Creighton is an example. A couple of teams are close to signing a

contract with Akron. High quality programs that will make for a good road trip as they are NOT

coming to Akron.

 

Details and names to follow.

[morris buttermaker]

So now you are telling us 1/3 of P5 schools could have been scheduling us all along???... I just hope they don't low ball us at $60,000 -- we don't want any of those games.... Probably better to play Hiram, MD Eastern Shore and others at home if that's the case

[GoZips]

7 hours ago, morris buttermaker said:

So now you are telling us 1/3 of P5 schools could have been scheduling us all along???... I just hope they don't low ball us at $60,000 -- we don't want any of those games.... Probably better to play Hiram, MD Eastern Shore and others at home if that's the case

 

What I am telling you is that the staff has identified who  potential opponents are and contacting them.

So far it looks promising. And, for people such as yourself, Akron will still be able to schedule home

games with Hiram and MD Eastern Shore.

 

Oh, btw, the Zips are getting the asked for amount. No worries Mate..

[zippy5]

So you're telling me that we were all... right?

[zippyman23]

18 hours ago, GoZips said:

Well, well, some good news.

 

It seems that the Zips are not so poisonous to some quality teams.

 

P5 teams that need to bolster their OOC Strength of Schedule are finding Akron a good choice.

 

Explanation: P5 programs that are in the top one-third of their conference have no desire to risk

losing to the Zips. Nor do teams in the bottom one-third. However, those teams that are "bubble"

teams are eyeing the Zips as a way to improve their Strength of Schedule, And, win or lose it

does not really matter. Creighton is an example. A couple of teams are close to signing a

contract with Akron. High quality programs that will make for a good road trip as they are NOT

coming to Akron.

 

Details and names to follow.

 

Crazy. That is exactly what I told you when you first called the Zips poisonous.

 

On 4/10/2016 at 0:22 PM, zippyman23 said:

Coming off a year in the Top 50 RPI, where the committee chairman once again stressed the importance of Top 50 wins, it's somehow tougher to schedule? Come on now. We can actually sell that these other teams have something to gain by playing us. It would be one thing if we were a 100+ RPI team, but a home loss to a Top 50 team isn't "poison" to a teams resume.

 

[Sportsjunkie330]

[kreed5120]

If we could get Creighton plus 2 other similar like teams, that would be great. Our regular season tournaments don't really expose us to quality competition this year.

[GoZips]

11 hours ago, zippy5 said:

So you're telling me that we were all... right?

 

Yes, Zippy5, the Zips will have a solid, tough OOC schedule this year.

 

[GoZips]

For Sportsjunkie and the rest of the nasty, smart mouth posters . I WILL report you every time from here on out.