kreed5120 Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Quote Chuck Amato said he hopes the defense turned the corner in that second half as some younger players, such as defensive back Alvin Davis, who had 15 tackles It's not really a positive sign for your defense when your corner finishes with 15 tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: It's not really a positive sign for your defense when your corner finishes with 15 tackles. Alvin plays the safety position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 He's the smallest safety I can remember ever seeing (at the college level). Am I forgetting anyone? We're set at S for 3 years to come w/ Alvin Davis & Shawn Featherstone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 13 minutes ago, Dr Z said: Alvin plays the safety position. That's better, but you'd still like to see more tackles made closer to the line of scrimmage, not 5-10 yards downfield by you safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Davis is 5 months removed from his HS graduation. I look forward to seeing what he can do as he matures. Him at 175 lbs would be a terror (more so than he already is). He gave a great post game interview a couple weeks ago where reeled off several of the tackling drills the did at Aquinas to help him bring down bigger, stronger guys. I hope he's spreading some positive love regarding the Zips back to his HS...we need as many well-coached ballers like him as we can get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 And we get relegated to ESPN3 status tonight. :-( Va Tech-Pitt gets ESPN. Appy St- Ga Southern the U, and a freaking high school football game gets ESPN2?!? Are you freaking kidding me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 14 minutes ago, MDZip said: And we get relegated to ESPN3 status tonight. :-( Va Tech-Pitt gets ESPN. Appy St- Ga Southern the U, and a freaking high school football game gets ESPN2?!? Are you freaking kidding me? Honestly, if we are only getting ESPN3coverage out of this, it ain't worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, zipsoutsider said: Honestly, if we are only getting ESPN3coverage out of this, it ain't worth it. We had to play today. Our next game is Wednesday. You can't play on Saturday then turn around and play 4 days later. Edited October 27, 2016 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 20 minutes ago, MDZip said: And we get relegated to ESPN3 status tonight. :-( Va Tech-Pitt gets ESPN. Appy St- Ga Southern the U, and a freaking high school football game gets ESPN2?!? Are you freaking kidding me? That sucks that we are playing 2nd fiddle to both a high school game and a Sun Belt game. I'm sure our opponent this week didn't help either. 6 minutes ago, zipsoutsider said: Honestly, if we are only getting ESPN3coverage out of this, it ain't worth it. We'll certainly take the money, and we need it. But, when we are essentially getting ZERO publicity, there's really no other benefit to us to be dealing with a weekday game on 4 days rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section210Zip Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 6 minutes ago, zipsoutsider said: Honestly, if we are only getting ESPN3coverage out of this, it ain't worth it. I couldn't disagree with this more. It wasn't that long ago I would have to drive somewhere to get the AM signal so I could listen to the radio broadcast. Now I get to watch out team no matter where and when they play. To me the WatchESPN app is the greatest thing ever. on a side note: Whether we are on ESPN or ESPN3 it all pays the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Section210Zip said: Whether we are on ESPN or ESPN3 it all pays the same. Except that nobody else sees us. I think that's a big deal. I have clients on the other side of the country who talk about how much they watch the MACtion games on weeknights in November on TV. It's the only national exposure that we ever really get. So, that's a huge difference. Edited October 27, 2016 by skip-zip edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 17 minutes ago, Section210Zip said: I couldn't disagree with this more. It wasn't that long ago I would have to drive somewhere to get the AM signal so I could listen to the radio broadcast. Now I get to watch out team no matter where and when they play. To me the WatchESPN app is the greatest thing ever. on a side note: Whether we are on ESPN or ESPN3 it all pays the same. I met week night games, not the whole ESPN deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section210Zip Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 minute ago, zipsoutsider said: I met week night games, not the whole ESPN deal. Ok got yeah. That part I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) A 5-3 Akron vs. a 1-6 Buffalo with a 17 1/2 point spread. I'm not surprised 1 bit that it didn't get picked up. If I wasn't an Akron fan there is no way in hell I'd consider watching this game. There are too many other better games on in that time slot. The App State - Georgia Southern is clearly a better game and so is OU - Toledo. That doesn't even count VA Tech - Pitt or the NFL. I don't know whose playing in the high school game, but it is clearly a high profile game that will appeal to high school football enthusiasts and college football fans that want a 1st look at their recruits. No doubt in my mind it would pull better ratings than Akron - Buffalo. People need to take off their blinders. This should be a crap game and if its not you should be disappointed as a fan because that means the Zips under performed. Edited October 27, 2016 by kreed5120 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 minute ago, kreed5120 said: I don't know whose playing in the high school game, but it is clearly a high profile game that will appeal to high school football enthusiasts and college football fans that want a 1st look at their recruits. No doubt in my mind it would pull better ratings than Akron - Buffalo. As always, you're entitled to your opinion, but how are you 100% sure that this high school game would outdraw Akron/Buffalo if you say that you don't even know what high school game is being broadcast? I don't think anyone is wearing blinders. It's just disappointing that a high school game and a Sun Belt game get pushed ahead of us, even though I did already acknowledge that our opponent tonight may have influenced that decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 26 minutes ago, skip-zip said: Except that nobody else sees us. I think that's a big deal. I have clients on the other side of the country who talk about how much they watch the MACtion games on weeknights in November on TV. It's the only national exposure that we ever really get. So, that's a huge difference. What sports fan doesn't have WatchESPN? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZippers Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 This game isn't technically part of our midweek agreement with ESPN. The official MACtion midweek games don't start until November. This game is just a set up so that our schedule can be aligned to allow us to play on Wednesday next week. Most of the time this would have been our bye week in the season, but for some reason it didn't work out that way this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 You do all realize that the reason we have a Thursday night game against Buffalo isn't so it could be on ESPN2 right? We have a Thursday night game against Buffalo because we have a Wednesday Night ESPN2 game against Toledo and the MAC had to find a way to incorporate that into the schedule. These ESPN2 games are picked to start the season, and ESPN has the option to highlight any other game during the season if they like the match-up. If Buffalo was 5-3 with us, it would have been moved to the U for sure, but it was never scheduled to be a MAC feature game in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 10 minutes ago, skip-zip said: As always, you're entitled to your opinion, but how are you 100% sure that this high school game would outdraw Akron/Buffalo if you say that you don't even know what high school game is being broadcast? I don't think anyone is wearing blinders. It's just disappointing that a high school game and a Sun Belt game get pushed ahead of us, even though I did already acknowledge that our opponent tonight may have influenced that decision. You mean a Sun Belt game that features a team that beat Akron this year in our house? A game that could end up deciding who wins the Sun Belt. You don't see how that couldn't be a more attractive game between the 2? High school football has a pretty large niche following. This game would pull from the niche fan base plus will attract fans from FBS schools that have future players playing in that game. Who exactly would Akron vs. Buffalo attract when it is the 3rd best G5 game on in its time slot, not including the P5 match up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, Dr Z said: What sports fan doesn't have WatchESPN? What football fan, who is not a fan of any of the teams involved in tonight's games, would go to the internet when there are already games right on TV? I sure hope you're not thinking that these games could possibly be evenly watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: Who exactly would Akron vs. Buffalo attract One could easily buy into that thought, if you also assume that the national TV audience is clamoring to see Sun Belt games at a much higher clip. We should know this because we talk about it all the time. The vast majority of the country has no idea who's leading the MAC or the Sun Belt. Or, that Akron and App State even played each other this year. At best, I'd say it's anyone's guess which game would get a higher number of viewers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) 27 minutes ago, skip-zip said: One could easily buy into that thought, if you also assume that the national TV audience is clamoring to see Sun Belt games at a much higher clip. We should know this because we talk about it all the time. The vast majority of the country has no idea who's leading the MAC or the Sun Belt. Or, that Akron and App State even played each other this year. At best, I'd say it's anyone's guess which game would get a higher number of viewers. App State has a legitimate following. Forget the Michigan game of a few years back. They made headlines this season with that thrilling Tennessee OT game and people hyped up their game with Miami even though it ended up with them getting spanked. People know who they are. This isn't Georgia State or Texas State we are talking about. Edit: When's the last time Akron had a moment that took the college football world by storm? The Leftwich game? Even if, that game was more about Leftwich playing thru a broken leg and leading a comeback more than it was about Akron winning. Edited October 27, 2016 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section210Zip Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 7 and half hrs till kick off and I'm getting excited for Akron beats Buffalo for bowl eligibility part 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZippers Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 43 minutes ago, skip-zip said: What football fan, who is not a fan of any of the teams involved in tonight's games, would go to the internet when there are already games right on TV? I sure hope you're not thinking that these games could possibly be evenly watched. Quite a lot. I know when I don't know what to watch, I go to Netflix and WatchESPN well before I start flipping channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, UAZippers said: Quite a lot. I know when I don't know what to watch, I go to Netflix and WatchESPN well before I start flipping channels. That might be your personal preference, but I'd be absolutely astounded if internet-only games were even remotely comparable to TV games in terms of viewership. Let me just add this, while also addressing Kreed's last response: The "Joe Schmo" college football crowd sitting on their couches on weekday nights with their Busch Light beer in hand doesn't give a sh*t about Akron, App State, Buffalo, or Georgia State. Many of them don't even know that it's a D-1 football game. They flip through the channels looking for an entertaining football game to watch. That's it. End of story. They don't even care about the outcome (unless they are gambling ) It's ludicrous to read into this much further and think that any significant number of these people know anything about what's happening in the MAC or Sun Belt, the current status of theri conference races, their players, their current record, or whether one of them gave a competitive game 8 weeks ago to a P5 team that everyone knew was overrated anyway. If anyone thinks that these people are thinking "I have to watch this game...it's a pivotal game in the race for the Sun Belt title", I'll call you a little crazy. Most of the nation, I assure you, doesn't even know (or care) about what's happening in Kalamazoo Michigan yet. Besides the money, the only thing we gain out of these games is a little attention. I'll have people comment about our uniforms, our mascot, or that we have a funny name, or that one of our receivers is fast, etc. But, you're giving way too much credit to these "weeknight football fans" around the country if you think they are in any way knowledgeable about the implications of any of these games. Edited October 27, 2016 by skip-zip edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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