MDZip Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Blue & Gold said: Great stat! That really highlights the parity in the MAC. Or mediocrity. I put my Akron education to good use to be able to figure out meaningless things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, lilroodude said: Our current schedule is crap in comparison (actually, it's crap period, compared to every schedule). Unless EMU and OU win out (minus their contests against Akron), we won't play another Top 100 team all year, and will have only played 4 all season - IF Georgia Southern and Marshall stay in the Top 100. Based on the research provided by MDZip and my findings, this would be good ammunition for anyone arguing against our cupcake, "prestigious" 21-win-guaranteed schedule. The committees seem to reward some success against tougher schedules over more success against weaker competition (duh). IDK know about that. If I remember correctly, one of the reason why Akron did not gt a At-Large last year because some of the "Experts" called Villanova a bad loss!?!? This season will be interesting because assuming the Zips win out, the so-call experts will use the Youngstown State game to keep them from having a At-Large(assuming they do not win the MAC outright). So the Options are the following: -Win the MAC and the Auto Bid OR -Gonzaga and Creighton win their Conference AND By some miracle, Youngstown State wins the Horizon. and the Latter is not a Gimmie at all..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 28 minutes ago, lance99 said: IDK know about that. If I remember correctly, one of the reason why Akron did not gt a At-Large last year because some of the "Experts" called Villanova a bad loss!?!? This season will be interesting because assuming the Zips win out, the so-call experts will use the Youngstown State game to keep them from having a At-Large(assuming they do not win the MAC outright). So the Options are the following: -Win the MAC and the Auto Bid OR -Gonzaga and Creighton win their Conference AND By some miracle, Youngstown State wins the Horizon. and the Latter is not a Gimmie at all..... Akron wasn't even on the bubble radar last year and rightfully so. No MAC team will ever get an at-large when it loses to 6 MAC opponents, especially to 2 bottom feeders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 As of today, we can lose two games and still win the MAC outright. No doubt that number will even get bigger. We are totally in control of our own destiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, akronzips71 said: As of today, we can lose two games and still win the MAC outright. No doubt that number will even get bigger. We are totally in control of our own destiny. Not to get ahead of ourselves, but does anyone see two MAC teams beating the Zips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Not to get ahead of ourselves, but does anyone see two MAC teams beating the Zips? Not they way most of them are playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Not to get ahead of ourselves, but does anyone see two MAC teams beating the Zips? The Zips have 11 conference games left plus up to 3 tournament games. I hate to be the Debbie Downer, but it would be pretty miraculous for us to go 13-1 or better during that stretch. If we are still undefeated after our trip to Ypsi on Feb 11, we would be 12-0 at said point, I'll begin to entertain the idea of finishing the season with 1 or fewer MAC losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 I was just speaking on the regular season. Anything can happen in Cleveland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 To lose in the MAC we'd have to lay an egg & the other team would have to get hot... but it'll happen. We've got a number of difficult road games in front of us & every team in the MAC gets amped to play us. It used to be just Kant. Then Kant & Ohio. Then Kant, Ohio & Buffalo. Now it's every team in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) I'm optimistic that this team CAN win the rest of their games. Heck, who would have guessed before the season started that we'd already be dominating every team in the league by this margin on January 25th? With that said, these are college kids. They won't play like you want them to play every game. We'll have our struggles. The question will be: Can we have struggles and still not lose those games? We can certainly say that it's happened already. The odds will certainly say that we'll lose games yet this season. But our opponents still have to play those games. And they have to beat us. And I like being in our position. Let me add this: A couple of years ago, Gonzaga won 17 straight conference games before suffering their first loss. If we are as dominant in our own conference, why can't we do the same? Edited January 25, 2017 by skip-zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip JD Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 3 hours ago, kreed5120 said: Akron wasn't even on the bubble radar last year and rightfully so. No MAC team will ever get an at-large when it loses to 6 MAC opponents, especially to 2 bottom feeders. Unfortunately, as long as the MAC is so mediocre to poor, kreed is correct. They listed about 60 schools on their "on-the-bubble" list during the selection show and we were nowhere to be found. If my memory is correct, weren't we undefeated at home as well as neutral sites, but 6-7 on the road last year? No way you get an at-large bid with weak SOS and losing record on the road. As for all the RPI talk on the board, the selection committee seems to quote RPI when it serves them and ignores it in other cases, such as, mid major teams. Most importantly, I want to see a complete game against Buffalo where the Zips keep their foot on the gas all game. 8-0 in the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Here's how I think right now when I look at the potential win total. 27 wins - Slim Chance 28 wins - Maybe 29 wins - Should 30 wins - IN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, Zip JD said: Unfortunately, as long as the MAC is so mediocre to poor, kreed is correct. They listed about 60 schools on their "on-the-bubble" list during the selection show and we were nowhere to be found. I remember watching the selection show and saw that list and fringe teams that had teams like Hofstra and Akron was nowhere to be found. Our loss to Buffalo in MACC was our only neutral court loss. We went 15-0 at home and lost all the other games on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Akron Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 17 hours ago, Blue & Gold said: To lose in the MAC we'd have to lay an egg & the other team would have to get hot... but it'll happen. We've got a number of difficult road games in front of us & every team in the MAC gets amped to play us. It used to be just Kant. Then Kant & Ohio. Then Kant, Ohio & Buffalo. Now it's every team in the league. ..and to think that "someone" called me an SOB for picking one of those other teams... just sayin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip JD Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 17 hours ago, Blue & Gold said: To lose in the MAC we'd have to lay an egg & the other team would have to get hot... but it'll happen. We've got a number of difficult road games in front of us & every team in the MAC gets amped to play us. It used to be just Kant. Then Kant & Ohio. Then Kant, Ohio & Buffalo. Now it's every team in the league. You are 100% correct, we are going to get everyone's best shot. Can't, OU (especially with Miami being down for so long) and Buffalo all consider us their main rival for the top spot in MAC basketball. I've heard French and Dunn say CMU and EMU now consider us their rivals as well the usual bravado we hear out of Toledo (again especially with BGSU being down). I'm sure even the rebuilding in NIU's program has us circled on their schedule as well. It's great to be the top team, but it does cut down on any walk-in-the-park road games. Just look at the YSU game, they had probably had us circled on the schedule for months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 56 minutes ago, Zip JD said: Just look at the YSU game, they had probably had us circled on the schedule for months. Perfect example. YSU was going for blood & playing us was their NCAA tourney game... while we laid an egg. If YSU beat us, any team in the MAC can beat us. Stay humble & stay hungry, Zips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Joe Akron said: ..and to think that "someone" called me an SOB for picking one of those other teams... just sayin. Zips fans Joe Akron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Akron Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Blue & Gold said: Zips fans Joe Akron got me right in my Lu-NARD-is .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Saw a bit of the CMU at Kent game. It appeared that neither team wanted to play any defense. CMU scored easily from inside and outside and seemed to grab a lot of offensive rebounds. With the exception of overtime, Kent couldn't shoot from the outside and scored a lot from inside the paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy_ua_00 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 On 1/24/2017 at 2:52 PM, skip-zip said: Right. We all know the drawbacks to playing in the MAC. But as MDZip showed earlier, our number of votes in both polls grew pretty substantially during the 2013 winning streak, from week to week. So, the fact that we didn't get any more votes after two more wins should be surprising in comparison. The RPI number is good for us for mid-January. That's not a concern to me at all. We only got to #34 by the end of last season, so we still have a lot of time left to climb higher. I wasn't complaining i know how rpi etc work. It wasn't a question I was just making a statement that it isn't surprising that we don't make a jump considering we play in the MAC and our RPI fell after 2 wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Did I just hear that something like 7 top ranked teams lost yesterday? If so, that should help Creighton get back into the Top 10. I think that really helps our cause that 2 of our losses are to Top 10 teams. I noticed that there's no movement in our RPI. It seems like every game we win our SOS drops again. Add a Victory....Lose SOS. We're definitely feeling the effects of the down year for our conference. We have to keep winning. No letdowns. One at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 We need DIG to come back and compute the magic number for us to win the MAC. We know that two losses wins the mac, but it should be even better based on who plays who and tie breakers. In other words, there should be 3 or 4 games that if we win closes the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Up to 5 votes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LZIp said: Up to 5 votes I ran out of likes so... Edited January 30, 2017 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Picked up a vote in coaches poll. http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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