Blue & Gold Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) The Boston Celtics are putting a GE (General Electric) logo on their uniform. In a few years I'm afraid American basketball, baseball & football jerseys are going to look more like euro soccer or NASCAR. Edited January 26, 2017 by Blue & Gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Not to get too off topic, but I see end zone seating becoming more popular as well. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18551902/ucf-knights-plan-install-cabanas-end-zone-watch-game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Blue & Gold said: The Boston Celtics are putting a GE (General Electric) logo on their uniform. In a few years I'm afraid American basketball, baseball & football jerseys are going to look more like euro soccer or NASCAR. The day this happens to any of my teams, is the day I'm done watching. The Coporatocracy we live in is already bad enough, and certainly going get worse. It's already beyond absurd to have the "Heinz Ketchup Play of the Day" or the "College Football Playoff Sponsored by Doctor Pepper" or whatever other thing plus whatever other company. Hate me for it...but I'm tired of Corporations shoving themselves down our throats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 14 minutes ago, Balsy said: The day this happens to any of my teams, is the day I'm done watching. Yeah okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, Balsy said: The day this happens to any of my teams, is the day I'm done watching. No you won't. If you kept watching the Zips at the JAR, when after each of roughly 200 3-point shots the announcer said "That's another Zips 3-pointer, brought to you by Tim Miller Insurance Agency", you'll never stop watching anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 When players collectively are demanding over 100 Million in yearly salaries on some teams in the NBA, something has to happen for the owners to be able to stay afloat. That's why I have very little interest in NBA basketball anymore. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhgrad2002 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: No you won't. If you kept watching the Zips at the JAR, when after each of roughly 200 3-point shots the announcer said "That's another Zips 3-pointer, brought to you by Tim Miller Insurance Agency", you'll never stop watching anything. That's why I will not be going to any more Zips basketball games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Just now, skip-zip said: When players collectively are demanding over 100 Million in yearly salaries on some teams in the NBA, something has to happen for the owners to be able to stay afloat. Those poor owners, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Those poor owners, huh? Yes, the people who took the risk and shelled out hundreds of millions of dollars, up front, to make all of this possible. Many of which LOSE money, and only did it for the joy and challenge of owning a sports team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 minute ago, skip-zip said: Yes, the people who took the risk and shelled out hundreds of millions of dollars, up front, to make all of this possible. Many of which LOSE money, and only did it for the joy and challenge of owning a sports team. http://www.forbes.com/pictures/edik45flemf/the-nbas-billionaire-owners/#33bf2cca3f94 In case you don't feel like clicking - "The average NBA team is now worth $634 million, up 25% from last year" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Although there are many successful, intelligent pro owners, when I think pro owner, I think whack job. I tend to not feel sorry for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, zippy5 said: "The average NBA team is now worth $634 million, up 25% from last year" And good for them. They took the risk and were rewarded. That's America. But regardless of the "worth" of those teams, you're ignoring the fact that many of them operate at a LOSS. You don't own a sports team, for the most part, because you thought it would be a tremendous money-making venture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Sports are becoming more and more crooked, but I don't mind this. Since the late 1800s/early 1900s, baseball organizations have been using their ballparks' walls and such to advertise for companies like the American Tobacco Company, banks, etc. If a team is privately owned, the owner should be able to open up their business to marketing/advertising profit opportunities such as this (now when these billionaire owners go to the taxpayers for stadium renovation funding, that's where I draw the line, but that's a whole different can of worms). Could you imagine AKRON, scripted on the front of our jerseys in GOODYEAR font or something like that? I think it would be pretty cool, and an excellent way for a college to get funding for sports, since sports should come secondary in funding to academics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, skip-zip said: And good for them. They took the risk and were rewarded. That's America. But regardless of the "worth" of those teams, you're ignoring the fact that many of them operate at a LOSS. You don't own a sports team, for the most part, because you thought it would be a tremendous money-making venture. You're right. They do it because they have so much money that spending a few hundred million for a hobby is no biggie. Hence why I don't feel too bad for them. And any operating loss (not sure I believe that anyway) is most likely recouped and then some when they sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) To bring this back on topic - per this link, the Celtics made $57MM last year. The quote was "something has to happen for the owners to be able to stay afloat." They don't need to do this. But they can, and I don't blame them. Edited January 26, 2017 by zippy5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 The Steelers have been doing this on their practice jersey's since 2010. If a company feels like they are getting value in it, I don't have an issue. I've always thought we should help build our infrastructure with this concept. I would love to have a brand new Amazon dot com Airport in Cleveland instead of the current nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaroo Craig Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 hour ago, skip-zip said: When players collectively are demanding over 100 Million in yearly salaries on some teams in the NBA, something has to happen for the owners to be able to stay afloat. That's why I have very little interest in NBA basketball anymore. Yep. And they will ask for even more because they know that the owners are getting more. Instead of paying the players, give some back to the fans in the form of lower ticket prices and concessions. We know that will never happen, because if it does, the players will go on strike and demand more $$. Its not just the NBA either. The Celtics just opened up the flood gates. I expect the NFL, NHL & MLB to do this as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Balsy said: The day this happens to any of my teams, is the day I'm done watching. Think of what someone like Michael Reghi can do with this stuff too! More opportunities for his "gems"... "Boy, Isaiah Thomas is really lightin' up the Bulls like a 200 Watt GE LED bulb tonight!" "It might be cold outside, but Al Horford is heatin' up like a GE GeoSpring hot water tank baby!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) Advertising on jerseys honestly doesn't bother me. Now if they talk about doubling the length of TV timeouts, that is where I'd draw the line. @zippy5 you have fallen into the fallacy that since sports franchises value has always increased in the past it means they will always in the future. It was the same mistake people were making in the housing market until the housing bubble burst. The fact of the matter is TV revenue is the single largest source of revenue for pro sports leagues. Guess what people are cutting cable so ESPN, TNT, and other national and regional sports networks are losing subscribers so they have less money to hand out. Pro leagues need to find ways of creating additional revenue to offset this or else that might be the next bubble to burst. Edited January 26, 2017 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 hours ago, zippy5 said: Yeah okay 2 hours ago, Captain Kangaroo said: No you won't. If you kept watching the Zips at the JAR, when after each of roughly 200 3-point shots the announcer said "That's another Zips 3-pointer, brought to you by Tim Miller Insurance Agency", you'll never stop watching anything. And I have been to very few Zips Basketball games this year. A trend that isn't because of crap like that, but the few games I do continue to go to will definitely go down. Everything with athletics DOESN'T HAVE TO BE monetized by some company. It's exhausting, not fun, and makes it out to be a joke. What sounds more serious? "The Cotton Bowl" or "The Goodyear Cotton Bowl" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 50 minutes ago, Balsy said: What sounds more serious? Neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyforPresident Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 hours ago, skip-zip said: But regardless of the "worth" of those teams, you're ignoring the fact that many of them operate at a LOSS. You don't own a sports team, for the most part, because you thought it would be a tremendous money-making venture. Although it is true that Adam Silver has made that claim, there doesn't appear to be any empirical data to back it up. Why The NBA's Claim That Teams Are Losing Money Doesn't Add Up What I personally find shocking is the amount of government money that is allocated to many of these franchises. - From the article: "Memphis, Cleveland, New Orleans, Indianapolis, Oklahoma City and Charlotte had 100 percent of their arena costs picked up by taxpayers." If franchises want to rent advertising space on players' uniforms so be it. It is their right to do so. However, that doesn't mean that it doesn't smack of tackiness. It would certainly be a better option than wasting government money. Unfortunately, I'm sure franchise owners will attempt to have their cake and eat it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, ZippyforPresident said: Although it is true that Adam Silver has made that claim, there doesn't appear to be any empirical data to back it up. Why The NBA's Claim That Teams Are Losing Money Doesn't Add Up What I personally find shocking is the amount of government money that is allocated to many of these franchises. - From the article: "Memphis, Cleveland, New Orleans, Indianapolis, Oklahoma City and Charlotte had 100 percent of their arena costs picked up by taxpayers." If franchises want to rent advertising space on players' uniforms so be it. It is their right to do so. However, that doesn't mean that it doesn't smack of tackiness. It would certainly be a better option than wasting government money. Unfortunately, I'm sure franchise owners will attempt to have their cake and eat it too. Amen! The city's only obligation should be ensuring the proper infrastructure is in place to support the mass amount of traffic the venue will create. Pro teams operate in a subsidized format where they don't budget for new arenas as they expect the city to pick up a huge chunk, if not all, of the tab. $20 million, or however much, needs to be set aside each year and placed into a fund before the owner or players receive a dime. From there owners/players can split revenue 50/50, 60/40. or whatever they agree to. This money would be used for renovations or new arenas/stadiums/fields. If owners were the ones responsible for flipping the bill you certainly wouldn't be hearing them claim an arena only has a 20 year life before a new one is needed or a large scale remodel needs completed. It would be the complete opposite and we would be seeing more Fenways, Wrigley Fields, and Madison Square Gardens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsjunkie330 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Balsy said: What sounds more serious? "The Cotton Bowl" or "The Goodyear Cotton Bowl" The Idaho Potato Bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsjunkie330 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 The only surprise in this is how long it has taken. Pro & College sports have become such a big business. These organizations/schools would be dumb not to take the money and put logos on their jerseys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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