kreed5120 Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 Let me get this started by saying I have my eye on a bigger prize than the NIT. The NCAA announced some rule changes for this years NIT. The rules are experimental so we might see them move to the regular season depending how they fair. The biggest of which is they are revamping the fouling system. No more 1 and 1. Instead halves would be broken into 2 continuous 10 minute intervals. After 5 fouls teams go to the line to shoot 2. At the 9:59 mark team fouls are reset to 0. http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/nit-rule-changes-to-test-counting-fouls-if-games-were-quarters-not-halves/ Quote
skip-zip Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 Hmm. That's the same rule that the girls started using this year. Except that they actually started playing Quarters. The impact is that it now allows you to use 10 "free" non-shooting fouls in a half. It should make the games move a bit faster also. Quote
zippy5 Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, skip-zip said: Hmm. That's the same rule that the girls started using this year. Except that they actually started playing Quarters. The impact is that it now allows you to use 10 "free" non-shooting fouls in a half. It should make the games move a bit faster also. 8* it's 4 fouls, then the bonus. So you get two extra fouls to give compared to how it is. I'm not sure how much difference it will end up making. Big Dog would have had a couple extra attempts last night Edited February 16, 2017 by zippy5 Quote
NWAkron Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) I'm not a fan of changing rules just to feed the short attention span of the masses. However, from this fan's perspective exciting, fun games come to painful, crowd-energy sucking endings when the team down by 8 or 9 points fouls incessantly just to extend the game and 90% of the time it doesn't change the outcome. It either makes the game look much closer than it was or vastly extend the margin of victory. So maybe this 2 free throw penalty would be a good beginning. And giving teams free hacks because of the 1 and 1 rule also is a buzz kill. Edited February 16, 2017 by NWAkron Quote
zippy5 Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 On the other hand, this takes the game more toward an NBA style. I like CBB much more than the NBA. Quote
kreed5120 Posted February 16, 2017 Author Report Posted February 16, 2017 What I like about it is currently a team might pick up a few quick fouls then the other team spends as much as 12-13 minutes in the bonus therefore turning the game into a free throw contest. Now if a team picks up a few quick fouls, they don't have to live with the repercussions of paying for it for as great of a length of time. Quote
skip-zip Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, zippy5 said: 8* it's 4 fouls, then the bonus. Duh. My math is bad at 8pm. Quote
zippy5 Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: What I like about it is currently a team might pick up a few quick fouls then the other team spends as much as 12-13 minutes in the bonus therefore turning the game into a free throw contest. Now if a team picks up a few quick fouls, they don't have to live with the repercussions of paying for it for as great of a length of time. You like the free throw contest? Quote
kreed5120 Posted February 16, 2017 Author Report Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) I worded that poorly. What I meant is I feel it would help reduce games turning into free throw contests. Games that just turn into 10 minute of free throw shooting are a drag. Edited February 16, 2017 by kreed5120 Quote
Blue & Gold Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 I've been wondering this for a while, but never started a thread. This seems like an appropriate spot for me to ask: Why does men's college basketball operate on 2 Halves as opposed to 4 quarters? High school, women's college & NBA basketball, of course, all operate on 4 quarters. What's the rationale behind going to 2 halves? Quote
clarkwgriswold Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 The early free throw contests that break out when teams get into the bonus early are excitement killers. Here's a thought to combat the late game hacking to get back in the game- give the fouled team the choice to take the shots or inbound the ball. Quote
skip-zip Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 27 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said: I've been wondering this for a while, but never started a thread. This seems like an appropriate spot for me to ask: Why does men's college basketball operate on 2 Halves as opposed to 4 quarters? High school, women's college & NBA basketball, of course, all operate on 4 quarters. What's the rationale behind going to 2 halves? Women's college just changed to Quarters. They were previously playing 2 Halfs, just like the men. Quote
1981 grad Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 I was also curious why college basketball did not use quarters and found these answers on the internet: James Naismith's original rules of basketball provided for halves instead of quarters. (15 minute halfs) Colleges began playing under that rule. The pros went to quarters to make the game longer so people would feel like they got their moneys worth for paying to watch a game. According to the NCAA record book, college basketball used four 10-minute quarters for three seasons: 1951-52, 52-53, 53-54. and then switched back. 1 Quote
skip-zip Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, 1981 grad said: The pros went to quarters to make the game longer so people would feel like they got their moneys worth for paying to watch a game. Or, so people would be there long enough, and have enough intermissions to buy more food and beer?? Edited February 16, 2017 by skip-zip Quote
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