kreed5120 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) Reports leaked yesterday that OSU has no intention of canning Matta this season. The same with Romar at Washington. Edited March 8, 2017 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 30 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: Reports leaked yesterday that OSU has no intention of canning Matta this season. Amusing, if it's true. I guess this level of "success" is fine with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 I could live with that "success" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 I thought Waters was a good hire when CSU got him after he got dumped by Rutgers. I figured he'd have a leg up coming back into NEO. Unfortunately, rather than duplicate the success he had at PCCC, he duplicated his misery at Rutgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, zippy5 said: I could live with that "success" Right! Where can I sign up for 18 tournament wins over a 12 year period? Edited March 9, 2017 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Thad Matta has plateaued, and has been plateaued for some time now. His tournament appearances are like Dambrot's 21 win seasons - participation trophies. Not to mention he had the one big run to the Championship game and has progressively regressed year after year. It shouldn't be this hard to have more success at OSUcks. He also supposedly has some major health problems. Plus, if Senderoff is Mr. Pinky, Matta is Mr. Red. Not sure I've ever seen someone get so red so easily. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 hours ago, zippy5 said: I could live with that "success" Two straight years of not having a prayer of being in the NCAA Tournament, an RPI anywhere from 20 to 40 points lower than the best team in the MAC during that same period, finishing 11th in conference play, and just coming off of the previous off-season where you had a mass exodus of transfers leaving the program? Sure, I'll define that as "success" as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 OSU is a football school and before Matta their last run of consistent success was in the 60s. If you feel OSU has underachieved in the past 5 years, it's because you're measuring it against what Matta built, not how OSU has historically performed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, skip-zip said: Two straight years of not having a prayer of being in the NCAA Tournament, an RPI anywhere from 20 to 40 points lower than the best team in the MAC during that same period, finishing 11th in conference play, and just coming off of the previous off-season where you had a mass exodus of transfers leaving the program? Sure, I'll define that as "success" as well. They beat us last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, skip-zip said: Two straight years of not having a prayer of being in the NCAA Tournament, an RPI anywhere from 20 to 40 points lower than the best team in the MAC during that same period, finishing 11th in conference play, and just coming off of the previous off-season where you had a mass exodus of transfers leaving the program? Sure, I'll define that as "success" as well. 5 Sweet 16 appearances 3 Elite 8 appearances 2 Final 4 appearances You wouldn't call that success? Edited March 9, 2017 by kreed5120 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, lilroodude said: Not to mention he had the one big run to the Championship game and has progressively regressed year after year. It shouldn't be this hard to have more success at OSUcks. His predecessor followed a similar path. Initial success with a Final Four appearance in 1999 followed soon after by a complete implosion, and eventually 3 years probation for NCAA violations. But they don't care about basketball (that's why they spend over 8 MILLION on men's basketball). Just like they don't care about soccer either. That's why they bus students up here for soccer matches after a string of 12 years where they haven't been able to beat us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 The Suckeyes lost to Rutgers tonight in the Big Ten tourney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyolcrowe Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 40 minutes ago, zippy5 said: They beat us last year. TRU DAT!! and with a injury riddled team! that game still drives me crazy! but hey....that's coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyolcrowe Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 42 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: 5 Sweet 16 appearances 3 Elite 8 appearances 2 Final 4 appearances You wouldn't call that success? yeah well.......can they beat Coppin St??? we are 4-0 against CST!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 40 minutes ago, skip-zip said: His predecessor followed a similar path. Initial success with a Final Four appearance in 1999 followed soon after by a complete implosion, and eventually 3 years probation for NCAA violations. But they don't care about basketball (that's why they spend over 8 MILLION on men's basketball). Just like they don't care about soccer either. That's why they bus students up here for soccer matches after a string of 12 years where they haven't been able to beat us. Are you seriously trying to compare O'Brien to Matta? Nobody said they didn't care about basketball. What was said is outside of a brief period in the 60s they've never been a historically great basketball program. They are football power, not a basketball power like UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, etc. Matta made OSU basketball nationally relevant again the same way Dantonio made MSU nationally relevant in football. MSU shouldn't fire Dantonio for 1-2 down seasons and OSU shouldn't fire Matta because he had 1-2 down years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mivid12 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, skip-zip said: Two straight years of not having a prayer of being in the NCAA Tournament, an RPI anywhere from 20 to 40 points lower than the best team in the MAC during that same period, finishing 11th in conference play, and just coming off of the previous off-season where you had a mass exodus of transfers leaving the program? Sure, I'll define that as "success" as well. their 'success' is better than anything this program has ever done....akron can't even win a cbi game Edited March 9, 2017 by mivid12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Hasn't Matta lost some key assistants in recent years? The head coach always gets the praise and the condemnations but often times it is the staff as a whole that determines who wins and loses both on the court and off of it. I feel like OSU's recruiting has been weaker lately and that could certainly be directly tied to changes in assistant coaches. I am not an OSU fan by any stretch of the imagination but I do think his past success has earned him the right to get a chance to turn things around, at least in the short-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Here's a little secret about Matta. He wins when he has better talent. His recent recruiting has not been very good and it is showing up in OSU's record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 10 hours ago, lilroodude said: ... lost to Rutgers tonight in the Big Ten tourney. Then their season is almost certainly over. You can drop one off that 21 wins every year for the last X amount of years. Now its just us, Kansas, Duke and Gonzaga. Hey it may not be much but it's all we've got right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, MDZip said: Then their season is almost certainly over. You can drop one off that 21 wins every year for the last X amount of years. Now its just us, Kansas, Duke and Gonzaga. Hey it may not be much but it's all we've got right now. I'd gladly forfeit that cherry picked stat for 1 Sweet 16 appearance. Edited March 9, 2017 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted March 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: I'd gladly forfeit that cherry picked stat for 1 Sweet 16 appearance. Agreed. That stat may actually be handicapping us. I can't figure out why we don't play a more challenging non-con schedule & trying to keep the 21-win streak alive is all I can come up with. Go into the lion's den, KD. Hit the road & schedule the big boys. (This should have been the year to do it w/ Dog & Kwan both seniors. Next year's group is going to perhaps need a softer non-con schedule to learn to play together w/o the big two. But I digress...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: I'd gladly forfeit that cherry picked stat for 1 Sweet 16 appearance. Completely, but that's why I said its all we've got right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2017/03/cleveland_state_scribbles_thre.html Terry Neptune suggestions for CSU: Jermaine Kimbrough, Jeff Boals, Geno Ford Edited March 9, 2017 by ZippyRulz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Miami (OH) fires John Cooper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 It's not fair to say that Waters failed at CSU. He had good success when he started. He won a game or two at the tourney few years back and was always competitive in the horizon league and had a player drafted to the NBA. However, 3 years ago, he had his 3 top players mysteriously transfer to Michigan St. and Louisville. He couldn't rebound out of that. Those 3 kids killed his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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