zipsoutsider Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Refs cost us 7 and gave Toledo 7 to totally kill any momentum we had. Kato isnt ready. We at least are moving the ball with Woodson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Losing Ball was a downer too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 minute ago, zipsoutsider said: Refs cost us 7 and gave Toledo 7 to totally kill any momentum we had. Kato isnt ready. We at least are moving the ball with Woodson. What channel of the game are you watching so I can turn to it. #confusedstare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, akzipper said: Yes, but the Zips should be in this game. But keep shooting themselves in the foot. Benching Nelson, dumb penalties, bad play calls, getting turnovers and doing nothing. Not trying to be argumentative, but isn't that why we aren't the better team? Penalties, special teams, QB issues. Hope they can make this respectable for the fans, the students, the band... everyone who went up.there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) Quote What channel of the game are you watching so I can turn to it. #confusedstare We're laying a big ol' egg on ESPN. No numbers or letters, the big ESPN. Edited December 2, 2017 by Spin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzx Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Whats the point of playing Woodson?-- give Kato the valuable experience that will help him progress 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 If there isn't a major improvement this second half, Bowden just ruined 3 weeks of work trying to save his job. To me, this becomes a Dambrot/Groce situation. Dambrot built a foundation for the program, and hopefully Groce can take us to the next level. Bowden rebuilt this program, but I think it could be time for the next coach to take us to the next level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, lilroodude said: If there isn't a major improvement this second half, Bowden just ruined 3 weeks of work trying to save his job. To me, this becomes a Dambrot/Groce situation. Dambrot built a foundation for the program, and hopefully Groce can take us to the next level. Bowden rebuilt this program, but I think it could be time for the next coach to take us to the next level. 100% agree. Hard to compare sports. BUT Bowden just seems to do just enough and get lucky enough to hang around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Ball was 100% moving before the Toledo runner was down. Not sure how everyone missed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 We're much more likely to regress with a new coach than to continue improving. This is one game against a team that's on another level from the rest of the conference, and we still have an opportunity to win another bowl game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 WOW!!! We got a cal!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Just now, NWAkron said: 100% agree. Hard to compare sports. BUT Bowden just seems to do just enough and get lucky enough to hang around. Yes. He's done just enough to improve every year. Just enough to take a team that was the worst in college football history to two bowl in three years and to a division title. What a piece of garbage. Why aren't we a top-25 team right now? Is that so difficult for Bowden? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 minute ago, ZachTheZip said: Yes. He's done just enough to improve every year. Just enough to take a team that was the worst in college football history to two bowl in three years and to a division title. What a piece of garbage. Why aren't we a top-25 team right now? Is that so difficult for Bowden? It's a good discussion to have. But I go back to lilroodude and his analysis. Another tortured comparison would be Ivey is to Dambrot as Cato is to Bowden. Ivey is thriving under Groce maybe a new coach could develop Cato. I will await the... bombardment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 He will get an extension offer but should get no raise (or maybe a pay cut) if he doesn't agree to address the special teams coach problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Lavar Nelson is at it on FB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Well, this is embarassing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, NWAkron said: It's a good discussion to have. But I go back to lilroodude and his analysis. Another tortured comparison would be Ivey is to Dambrot as Cato is to Bowden. Ivey is thriving under Groce maybe a new coach could develop Cato. I will await the... bombardment. This isn't really the place to discuss basketball, but I don't see Ivey thriving under Groce. I see a player who is being pushed to be the do-it-all star player, and he's trying but isn't comfortable in that role. His numbers are being forced, either by himself or by the design of the coach, and I don't think it's sustainable. I think there's going to be a breakdown somewhere in a month or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy_ua_00 Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 10 minutes ago, zipsoutsider said: Lavar Nelson is at it on FB. What is his name I wanna see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Nice throw. NOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msopher Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 This is what I call a good ol’fashioned butt whuppin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 At least we didn't get "skunked". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Prayers for Alvin Davis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Should of started Kato Perfect TD pass there 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottditzen Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, dre22era said: Should of started Kato Perfect TD pass there He did start. Anyhow it's obvious the Zips had to play a near perfect game to match Toledo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94zipgrad Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, dre22era said: Prayers for Alvin Davis He is running on sideline 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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