akronzips71 Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said: I think he moves up in the pecking order with Utomi moving on. I could see them running a three guard starting lineup with LCJ, Cheese, Banks, Williams and Riak. Close your eyes. You really don't want to see that lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said: I think he moves up in the pecking order with Utomi moving on. I could see them running a three guard starting lineup with LCJ, Cheese, Banks, Williams and Riak. Trust the process. Banks didn't add much...I preferred Roscoe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 43 minutes ago, NWAkron said: I would guess Channel will.be next to go. Not sure what his role will be. But I wonder if that will affect his friend coming from the same JUCO. Channel fits right in, especially on defense. He's one of the best passing-lane-jumpers I've seen in an Akron uniform. He regressed offensively after his injury, but I think that will come back next year. 20 minutes ago, akronzips71 said: Close your eyes. You really don't want to see that lineup. I think your eyes have been closed enough that you have the rest of us covered. I, for one, am looking forward to seeing this upcoming season develop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Channel fits right in, especially on defense. He's one of the best passing-lane-jumpers I've seen in an Akron uniform. He regressed offensively after his injury, but I think that will come back next year. I think your eyes have been closed enough that you have the rest of us covered. I, for one, am looking forward to seeing this upcoming season develop. I am looking forward to Groce getting off his keister and recruiting some actual D1 players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, akronzips71 said: I am looking forward to Groce getting off his keister and recruiting some actual D1 players. How can you tell if we have actual DI players with your eyes closed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Banks is a shooter who lost his shot. If he regains it, he'll play meaningful minutes. One of the problems is that now, with Utomi and Ivey gone, they don't have a real 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: How can you tell if we have actual DI players with your eyes closed? I can listen to Frenchie. You thought you just won the internet, didn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, akronzips71 said: I can listen to Frenchie. You thought you just won the internet, didn't you? I'm just having some fun. It can be quite depressing and unhealthy to constantly listen to Puddles Pity Party. Smile - it's good for the soul. Edited March 29, 2019 by Let'sGoZips94 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 43 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said: Banks is a shooter who lost his shot. If he regains it, he'll play meaningful minutes. One of the problems is that now, with Utomi and Ivey gone, they don't have a real 3. Maybe they need to think outside the constraints of players being a 2 or a 3 or a 4. Just put the best 5 on the floor and not worry so much about labels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 3 hours ago, NWAkron said: Maybe they need to think outside the constraints of players being a 2 or a 3 or a 4. Just put the best 5 on the floor and not worry so much about labels. The issue with that becomes defense. If your best 5 are guards/small forwards, you're going to struggle against bigger teams. Vice versa, if your best players are PF/C, you're going to struggle against guard-heavy teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 12 hours ago, NWAkron said: Maybe they need to think outside the constraints of players being a 2 or a 3 or a 4. Just put the best 5 on the floor and not worry so much about labels. You're forced to do that some with a lack of depth (like Utomi guarding bigs and playing in the post). Having a number of interchangeable athletic and long players like Buffalo makes tossing labels aside much easier too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Outside of LCJ and I suppose Roscoe, I felt we had pretty good size at the perimeter positions. Particularly for a mid-major. IMO it played a large part in why according to KenPom we were a top 25 defense. Being able to guard multiple positions while also being able to disrupt shots and passing lanes is valuable on the defensive end. Ivey - 6'5 Utomi - 6'6 Cheese - 6'5 Toles - 6'6 Banks - 6'4 LCJ - 5'8 Roscoe - 6'2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, kreed5120 said: Outside of LCJ and I suppose Roscoe, I felt we had pretty good size at the perimeter positions. Particularly for a mid-major. IMO it played a large part in why according to KenPom we were a top 25 defense. Being able to guard multiple positions while also being able to disrupt shots and passing lanes is valuable on the defensive end. Ivey - 6'5 Utomi - 6'6 Cheese - 6'5 Toles - 6'6 Banks - 6'4 LCJ - 5'8 Roscoe - 6'2 I think those heights are generous with the exception of LCJ. Would Reece be a replacement for Banks? Looks like Sayles is staying around? Does he have 3 years of eligibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Toles and Roscoe really didn't play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 24 minutes ago, NWAkron said: I think those heights are generous with the exception of LCJ. Would Reece be a replacement for Banks? Looks like Sayles is staying around? Does he have 3 years of eligibility? You act as though Akron is the only D1 school that is generous with heights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: You act as though Akron is the only D1 school that is generous with heights. Those heights are a joke. Totally not D1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Everyone rounds the height up. If Ivey was 6’4&1/4” he’d be listed at 6’5”. Whatever. I ran into Ivey & Utomi at the Akron Family Restaurant & they were sincerely big dudes. Utomi was huge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 So we had Zeke at 7, Tree at 6'8, Pat at 6'11, Reggie and Jake at 6'7 We were successful when we were TALL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, akronzips71 said: So we had Zeke at 7, Tree at 6'8, Pat at 6'11, Reggie and Jake at 6'7 We were successful when we were TALL. We were? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, NWAkron said: We were? Compared to the last two years? Are you kidding me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 51 minutes ago, akronzips71 said: So we had Zeke at 7, Tree at 6'8, Pat at 6'11, Reggie and Jake at 6'7 We were successful when we were TALL. Did Tree grow before or after he was a Zip? I have only ever seen him listed at 6'7" and that was generous. I agree that height sure helps but coincidentally Treadwell is the perfect example of how a smaller guy with grit can play larger. Other examples are Romeo Travis and Jeremiah Wood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 oh geez this discussion again 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, akronzips71 said: Compared to the last two years? Are you kidding me? Pat Forsythe and Zeke...they helped the Zips so much in the NCAA tournament. Miss them...a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 36 minutes ago, NWAkron said: Pat Forsythe and Zeke...they helped the Zips so much in the NCAA tournament. Miss them...a lot. I guess all those 21 game winning seasons and trips to the Dance and MAC championships meant nothing. After the last two disasters I YEARN for those years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyolcrowe Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 I like being TALL............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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