Transfer Portal

[Blue & Gold]

Just killing some time here this a.m....

In another thread it was speculated that with Bo Nix transferring to Oregon, it could increase the likelihood that a current Oregon QB may decide to transfer to UA w/ JoeMo.  According to ourlads dot com the current Oregon QB depth chart is:

1. Anthony Brown (Sr.)

2. Ty Thompson (Fr.)

3. Jay Butterfield (Fr.)

4. Robby Ashford (Fr.)

 

Other QB's currently on Oregon's roster include

A.J. Abbott  and

Bradley Yaffe

 

These guys are likely playing at their dream school, but I guess the tough question is whether you actually want to get PT, or not?  Once your football days are over, they're over.  It's not like former baseball players playing beer-league softball or former basketball players playing pickup ball at the Y for the rest of your life.

 

Additionally, I feel DJ Irons could be an excellent RPO QB in JoeMo's system.  But anytime you might be able to add a QB who was offered by Oregon...  Plus, with the graduation of Kato & the transfer of Gibson, we have no idea what any of our other current roster QB's really bring to the table.

Edited December 21, 2021 by Blue & Gold

[blueandgold]

16 hours ago, Ham said:

What's up at Oregon?  They have a new head coach and OC. They have landed Auburn QB for next year.  Free JoeMo!

 

43 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

Just killing some time here this a.m....

In another thread it was speculated that with Bo Nix transferring to Oregon, it could increase the likelihood that a current Oregon QB may decide to transfer to UA w/ JoeMo.  According to ourlads dot com the current Oregon QB depth chart is:

1. Anthony Brown (Sr.)

2. Ty Thompson (Fr.)

3. Jay Butterfield (Fr.)

4. Robby Ashford (Fr.)

 

Other QB's currently on Oregon's roster include

A.J. Abbott  and

Bradley Yaffe

 

These guys are likely playing at their dream school, but I guess the tough question is whether you actually want to get PT, or not?  Once your football days are over, they're over.  It's not like former baseball players playing beer-league softball or former basketball players playing pickup ball at the Y for the rest of your life.

 

Additionally, I feel DJ Irons could be an excellent RPO QB in JoeMo's system.  But anytime you might be able to add a QB who was offered by Oregon...  Plus, with the graduation of Kato & the transfer of Gibson, we have no idea what any of our other current roster QB's really bring to the table.

Obviously I'd love for us to get Thompson, Butterfield or Ashford, but we'd be more likely to get one of the "other" QB's if we get any of them based on star ratings of the top guys and where they are from.

Edited December 21, 2021 by blueandgold

[Let'sGoZips94]

17 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

Just killing some time here this a.m....

In another thread it was speculated that with Bo Nix transferring to Oregon, it could increase the likelihood that a current Oregon QB may decide to transfer to UA w/ JoeMo.  According to ourlads dot com the current Oregon QB depth chart is:

1. Anthony Brown (Sr.)

2. Ty Thompson (Fr.)

3. Jay Butterfield (Fr.)

4. Robby Ashford (Fr.)

 

Other QB's currently on Oregon's roster include

A.J. Abbott  and

Bradley Yaffe

 

These guys are likely playing at their dream school, but I guess the tough question is whether you actually want to get PT, or not?  Once your football days are over, they're over.  It's not like former baseball players playing beer-league softball or former basketball players playing pickup ball at the Y for the rest of your life.

 

Additionally, I feel DJ Irons could be an excellent RPO QB in JoeMo's system.  But anytime you might be able to add a QB who was offered by Oregon...  Plus, with the graduation of Kato & the transfer of Gibson, we have no idea what any of our other current roster QB's really bring to the table.

 

I'd imagine Ty Thompson is out of our league, even with JoeMo here. Butterfield is from Cali, so he might stay West Coast. Robby Ashford is from Alabama so coming back east might be intriguing. All 3 are some of the top QBs in the country. Pretty incredible QB room.

[Blue & Gold]

56 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

I'd imagine Ty Thompson is out of our league, even with JoeMo here. Butterfield is from Cali, so he might stay West Coast. Robby Ashford is from Alabama so coming back east might be intriguing. All 3 are some of the top QBs in the country. Pretty incredible QB room.

Yeah. I'm not expecting any to come.  

[dirtyolcrowe]

56 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

I'd imagine Ty Thompson is out of our league, even with JoeMo here. Butterfield is from Cali, so he might stay West Coast. Robby Ashford is from Alabama so coming back east might be intriguing. All 3 are some of the top QBs in the country. Pretty incredible QB room.

I would concentrate on Ashford.   Higher ceiling.   Plus.  I think he would immediately start.   

[Zippyroo]

Looks like we landed another!!

 

[Let'sGoZips94]

10 hours ago, Zippyroo said:

Looks like we landed another!!

 

 

Transfer from 'Cuse. Per his bio...

 

Career Overview: Stout inside player who has seen increasing time at defensive line - predominantly nose tackle - as his career has gone on ... In 23 games over the last three seasons, has 28 tackles (16 solo), 3.5 tackles for loss and two sacks ... Redshirted in 2017 ... Two-time ACC Honor Roll selection and four-time member of the SU Athletic Director’s Honor Roll.

Junior Year (2020): Saw action in all-11 games along the defensive line rotation … Made 14 tackles and had 1.5 tackles for loss on the season … Had a tackle for loss in the season opener against North Carolina (9/12) … Made two tackles against Georgia Tech (9/26) … Had two solo stops against Duke (10/10) … Made two tackles and had a QB hurry at Clemson (10/24) … Had two solo tackles in back-to-back games against Wake Forest (10/31) and Boston College (11/7) … Had a tackle for a six-yard loss against NC State (11/28).

Sophomore Year (2019): Played in 11 games as a reserve ... Tallied 13 tackles (six solo) and two sacks ... Had at least one stop in seven games ... Made two tackles, including a half sack, in Syracuse’s season-opening shutout at Liberty (8/31) ... At Maryland (9/7), collected three tackles, including the first solo pass sack of his career ... Tallied one tackle apiece in consecutive games against Clemson (9/14) and Western Michigan (9/21) ... Credited with a half sack at NC State (10/10) ... Had a career-best four tackles versus Boston College (11/2) ... At Duke (11/16), logged one tackle ... ACC Honor Roll selection ... Member of the Fall 2019 and Spring 2020 SU Athletic Director’s Honor Rolls. 
 
Freshman Year (2018): Made his collegiate debut against Wagner (9/8) and had one tackle … ACC Honor Roll selection … Member of the Spring 2019 SU Athletic Director’s Honor Roll.
 

[94zipgrad]

Just FYI on Qualls

 

[Blue & Gold]

Offered a 6'6" 310 OL transferring from Georgetown.

Also has offers from Arkansas State, FIU, Georgia Southern, Troy, Utah State, UMass, WMU, CMU, BUGS, Toledo, Buffalo, Ohio, & KSUcks. 

[GoZips88]

Interesting from Wyoming ...

 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32934502/wyoming-cowboys-post-online-ad-selling-team-transfer-quarterback

[bigjim]

The Transfer Portal has received some bad press here and elsewhere in the media recently.  Initially, I thought that was correct, but now I disagree with that perception.  I view the TP as being similar to the internet, it just speeds up the process of facilitating a transfer.  25-30 years ago, if you wanted to send a message or a letter to a person, you wrote it down (or typed it), put it in an envelope with a stamp, mailed it, and it showed up 2-3 days later.  Now, you can email someone and cc: as many people as you want, and it goes through instantly.  The sheer number of work and home emails that are received make my life much better in some cases, and much more miserable in other cases.  Even recently, if a player wanted to change schools, he needed to get the word out so that potential suitors knew to pursue the transfer.  The TP let's all the teams know your intentions immediately and speeds up the communication process which allows the transfer to happen very quickly.  To me, the following three items are the issues.  

1. Now, there is not a 1 year sitting out period for an athlete (I do not say student athlete since they are not transferring schools for academic reasons) to change schools.  You can play immediately.  I think that is a major mistake and has led to an avalanche of transfers.  Many athletes who are significant contributors on P5 programs have entered the TP and are changing schools this year.  

2. NIL, players are transferring for financial reasons.  Universities and businesses are partnering within the weak rules that are in place to pay players to come to a certain college.  Not a good idea.  I know the courts approved this change, but like anything, there has to be some regulations for the process to be successful.  Marijuana is being legalized in some states, but there are rules and laws in place, otherwise, it would be chaos. 

3. Today's generation wants instant gratification more than ever in the past.  Many cannot see the big picture and are not getting good advice from parents and other leaders and are making decisions that they may regret for a lifetime.  They want to make a change based on some issue and have not thought through the entire consequences.  

So, do not hate the Transfer Portal.  It is not the root cause of the problem. 

Merry Zipmas!!

[Zipmeister]

I agree, the TP is the greatest thing since buttered bread and it would not be possible without the internet.

There is not a day that goes by that I don't thank my lucky stars that Al Gore invented the internet.

[kreed5120]

The TP giveth and the TP taketh. I feel the programs at the G5 level that will do well are the ones who embrace it instead of trying to hold onto the past. The NIL money is going to attract the same players to the same P5 blue bloods. Difference is an o-lineman might sign with Texas instead of OSU since Texas offered them 100k while OSU only offered 80k. Regardless that player was never going to come to Akron anyways. 

 

NIL really only becomes an issue if NIU, Kent, Toledo, etc. starts raising significant funds therefore becomes more attractive to recruits.

[GP1]

13 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

The TP giveth and the TP taketh. I feel the programs at the G5 level that will do well are the ones who embrace it instead of trying to hold onto the past. The NIL money is going to attract the same players to the same P5 blue bloods. Difference is an o-lineman might sign with Texas instead of OSU since Texas offered them 100k while OSU only offered 80k. Regardless that player was never going to come to Akron anyways. 

 

NIL really only becomes an issue if NIU, Kent, Toledo, etc. starts raising significant funds therefore becomes more attractive to recruits.

Schools can't pay nil money. 

 

NIL has just moved money around and brought it into the open. Years ago, a player would get clothes, a car, furnished apartment, ets valued at $80,000.  Today, they get the money and they can buy their own. 

[kreed5120]

3 hours ago, GP1 said:

Schools can't pay nil money. 

 

NIL has just moved money around and brought it into the open. Years ago, a player would get clothes, a car, furnished apartment, ets valued at $80,000.  Today, they get the money and they can buy their own. 

Schools can't pay it directly, but there is already a non-profit setup to pay each Texas scholarship offensive linemen $50k. The university itself isn't paying it, but you know the coach will be advertising that when recruiting a linemen.

Edited December 26, 2021 by kreed5120

[LZIp]

7 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

Schools can't pay it directly, but there is already a non-profit setup to pay each Texas scholarship offensive linemen $50k. The university itself isn't paying it, but you know the coach will be advertising that when recruiting a linemen.

I'm curious the argument as to why this entity is eligible to be a non-profit.

[kreed5120]

13 minutes ago, LZIp said:

I'm curious the argument as to why this entity is eligible to be a non-profit.

It's because they're paying them to volunteer at local charities.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/university-of-texas-football-players-pancake-factory-132446197.html

 

Edit: Or I should say that's what they're claiming to the IRS that way they can get non-profit status and remain NIL compliant. Most teams do charitable work anyways so its not really requiring anything additional from the athletes.

Edited December 26, 2021 by kreed5120

[TheZipCat]

On 12/26/2021 at 4:56 PM, LZIp said:

I'm curious the argument as to why this entity is eligible to be a non-profit.

Because we live in the United States of America where we can legally bribe politicians in the form of campaign contributions, so we can circumvent the intention of common-sense laws.

[bigjim]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/college-football-world-reacts-to-transfer-portal-news/ar-AASddTj?ocid=msedgntp

 

I found this article.  If true, the statistics are staggering and should deter athletes from entering the portal.  

[GP1]

5 hours ago, bigjim said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/college-football-world-reacts-to-transfer-portal-news/ar-AASddTj?ocid=msedgntp

 

I found this article.  If true, the statistics are staggering and should deter athletes from entering the portal.  

What it tells me is that around 6 out of every 10 who enter do not belong in college. This is about four players for every team in D1. The number isn't unrealistic. It's approximately 5% of every team's scholarship players. The drop out rate for American college students in general is much higher because they do not have the same tutoring and financial services as an athlete-student. https://whattobecome.com/blog/college-dropout-rate/

 

For example, a guy is flunking out somewhere and thinks he will be smarter at another school. One doesn't get smarter through the transfer portal. The other schools know the guy is a moron after spending ten seconds with him getting a look at his transcripts so nobody offers a scholarship. The majority of kids entering the portal would be better described as "college drop outs".

Edited December 29, 2021 by GP1

[Blue & Gold]

This guy was a real stud coming out of HS at Stow.  He was a 3-star DE.  But man, has he put on a lot of weight.  Coming out of HS he was listed at 6-2 245 but now Toledo lists him as a 6-2 305 DT.

 

That's an awful lot of weight to pack on, isn't it?

 

Idk, but at the very least he's a local DL who we can keep an eye on.

[LZIp]

On 12/15/2021 at 1:11 PM, 94zipgrad said:

It’s not easy, 1% of high school football players play D1 football.  I don’t think you flame out because you hit the portal.  Fox was IMO never a Big 10 player, Dad & Uncle both being Big 10 players & playing at Hoban helped him.  Playing at Hoban and being a multiple State Champion may have got some players above the level they really are.  Rumler is not a flame out, he came home and he will probably do well at Kent.  Todd Sibley is a 6th year Senior at Pitt and got a Masters degree.  Didn’t really play but IMO that isn’t a flame out.  Used his talent to get a Masters

and now he's in the portal.

 

[LZIp]

Kyle Vantrease ( @Cykron) and RB Dylan McDuffie  for Canada now in the portal. Both were starters this year.

[94zipgrad]

1 hour ago, LZIp said:

and now he's in the portal.

 

He already has a masters, looking to play one year instead of bench, didn’t need the new portal rules for this

[Blue & Gold]

2 hours ago, LZIp said:

Kyle Vantrease ( @Cykron) and RB Dylan McDuffie  for Canada now in the portal. Both were starters this year.

That’s weird.