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[Let'sGoZips94]

 

 

[GP1]

7 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

 

Gross. Let's think this through. 

 

As a fan who doesn't gamble, thinks legalized gambling should be legal, believes legalized gambling is horrible for society,and likes good analysis of a game, I lose even more. In order to raise even more revenue, schools will sell even more advertisements to get people, in a very poorly state, to blow even more money they cannot afford to blow on gambling. That means the endlessly silly in game comments about the percentage of the right guard going into a three point stance on third and four.  

 

Further, the "analysis" of a game will become even more about telling us about stats and not analyzing the game. Facts aren't reasons. I want someone to tell me why something happened, not the RPMs of a pass. 

 

Louisiana universities are now in the business of persuading people to engage in one of the most irrational things anyone can do, gambling. College athletics are becoming more and more gross by the day. It's a real shame and a blight on our society. 

[kreed5120]

7 hours ago, GP1 said:

Gross. Let's think this through. 

 

As a fan who doesn't gamble, thinks legalized gambling should be legal, believes legalized gambling is horrible for society,and likes good analysis of a game, I lose even more. In order to raise even more revenue, schools will sell even more advertisements to get people, in a very poorly state, to blow even more money they cannot afford to blow on gambling. That means the endlessly silly in game comments about the percentage of the right guard going into a three point stance on third and four.  

 

Further, the "analysis" of a game will become even more about telling us about stats and not analyzing the game. Facts aren't reasons. I want someone to tell me why something happened, not the RPMs of a pass. 

 

Louisiana universities are now in the business of persuading people to engage in one of the most irrational things anyone can do, gambling. College athletics are becoming more and more gross by the day. It's a real shame and a blight on our society. 

 

I'm not even opposed to sin taxes. To me this just more so shows where the priorities lie for the state. Instead of investing in improving their education system, which is ranked in the bottom 10 nationally, they're prioritizing paying 18-22 year old kids who can throw or catch a football.

 

I suppose it's an easy sell to those politicians voter base who care more about sitting in front of a TV watching football than they do about developing well paying industries in their communities.

Edited June 18 by kreed5120

[Let'sGoZips94]

4 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

 

I'm not even opposed to sin taxes. To me this just more so shows where the priorities lie for the state. Instead of investing in improving their education system, which is ranked in the bottom 10 nationally, they're prioritizing paying 18-22 year old kids who can throw or catch a football.

 

I suppose it's an easy sell to those politicians voter base who care more about sitting in front of a TV watching football than they due about developing well paying industries in their communities.

 

Ironically, the politicians largely ignored the ability for the athletes to earn external income for decades.

[kreed5120]

24 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Ironically, the politicians largely ignored the ability for the athletes to earn external income for decades.

 

Money meant for taxpayers has long found it's way to athletics in SEC. The difference before that money was used on facilities. Case in point the Mississippi scandal that Brett Favre was in the middle of. 

[GP1]

Interesting. 

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/wisconsin-sues-miami-for-tortious-interference-with-xavier-lucas

 

[MDZip]

On 6/18/2025 at 4:02 PM, kreed5120 said:

 

Money meant for taxpayers has long found it's way to athletics in SEC. The difference before that money was used on facilities. Case in point the Mississippi scandal that Brett Favre was in the middle of. 

And that wasn't even the SEC. That was Southern Mississippi. Corruption runs deep. 

[Spin]

Im losing interest by the minute. 
 

 

[Let'sGoZips94]

Replacing Texas St with LaTech is exactly why the MAC and the Sun Belt need to combine.  

 

Create a North Division and South Division to keep travel school-friendly, and possibly shed some dead weight along the way (directional Michigan's minus Western).

 

[kreed5120]

3 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

Replacing Texas St with LaTech is exactly why the MAC and the Sun Belt need to combine.  

 

Create a North Division and South Division to keep travel school-friendly, and possibly shed some dead weight along the way (directional Michigan's minus Western).

 

Football generally is what drives realignment. In that case the dead weight you speak of shedding would likely be Kent and sadly Akron.

[catdaddyp]

https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/sports/college/zips/2025/07/01/akron-zips-opt-in-house-vs-ncaa-settlement-pay-athletes-nil/84424328007/
 

 

Zips opt in. Huge news! Although I have no idea where the money will be coming from.

[Let'sGoZips94]

3 minutes ago, catdaddyp said:

https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/sports/college/zips/2025/07/01/akron-zips-opt-in-house-vs-ncaa-settlement-pay-athletes-nil/84424328007/
 

 

Zips opt in. Huge news! Although I have no idea where the money will be coming from.

 

All but 10-15 programs in the country operate in the negative. Nobody knows where any of this money is coming from. 

[catdaddyp]

Another transfer window coming. And this whole “grandfathering” thing sounds like a mess with loop holes.

[ZippyDoo]

43 minutes ago, catdaddyp said:

Another transfer window coming. And this whole “grandfathering” thing sounds like a mess with loop holes.

can someone much smarter than me explain how they foresee this affecting Zips team?

[zipinnc]

3 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

All but 10-15 programs in the country operate in the negative. Nobody knows where any of this money is coming from. 

Student Fees

[ZippyDoo]

3 hours ago, catdaddyp said:

Another transfer window coming. And this whole “grandfathering” thing sounds like a mess with loop holes.

if my numbers are right there are approximately 100 players on Zips roster counting incoming freshman that are not listed currently on the roster. I only see two, Kavals and Sivon probably because they got their physicals. I'm guessing since they are below the 105 man limit Zips probably won't have anyone leave in the portal, may pick someone up from some Power4 schools that have to get down to the roster limit. 

[GP1]

23 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

Replacing Texas St with LaTech is exactly why the MAC and the Sun Belt need to combine.  

 

Create a North Division and South Division to keep travel school-friendly, and possibly shed some dead weight along the way (directional Michigan's minus Western).

 

Or, they could combine with the rest of G5 schools and start their own division. They could have more leverage negotiating paydays against P4, a playoff and national championship. 

[GP1]

16 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

All but 10-15 programs in the country operate in the negative. Nobody knows where any of this money is coming from. 

I do and there's a name for them. They are called "taxpayers". 

[Let'sGoZips94]

1 hour ago, GP1 said:

Or, they could combine with the rest of G5 schools and start their own division. They could have more leverage negotiating paydays against P4, a playoff and national championship. 

 

In what world does removing themselves from D1/FBS give them more leverage in paydays against P4? 

 

The only way for G5s to gain leverage against P4s, outside of the NCAA making a rule that P4s have to pay poaching fees for player & coach acquisitions (which is a pipe dream) is to break away from the NCAA entirely and form their own league. Otherwise, you're stuck at the hip to a large extent. 

Edited 21 hours ago by Let'sGoZips94

[catdaddyp]

16 hours ago, ZippyDoo said:

can someone much smarter than me explain how they foresee this affecting Zips team?

I don’t think it affects us much—we usually carry around 100 guys on the roster anyway. I think we were under 110 this past season. But for schools running 125+, it’ll have an impact. They’ll eventually need to trim things down to 105, though it sounds like “grandfathering” will let them stick with higher numbers for a few more years.

Edited 21 hours ago by catdaddyp

[GP1]

6 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

In what world does removing themselves from D1/FBS give them more leverage in paydays against P4? 

Excellent question! P4 schools won't want to give up a glorified scrimmage each season. There is strength in numbers. The G5 schools could negotiate higher paying paydays as a group instead of individual, desperate ADs negotiating bad deals to make it look like they are doing something. 

 

With the amount of money now in college football, I don't think it is unreasonable for G5 schools to get a minimum of $5 million per payday game. It's a drop in the bucket. Instead, they settled for peanuts in comparison. 

 

For a lot of P4 schools, paying $5 million for a guaranteed win makes more sense than scheduling another P4 school that could result in a loss. 

[Let'sGoZips94]

1 hour ago, GP1 said:

Excellent question! P4 schools won't want to give up a glorified scrimmage each season. There is strength in numbers. The G5 schools could negotiate higher paying paydays as a group instead of individual, desperate ADs negotiating bad deals to make it look like they are doing something. 

 

With the amount of money now in college football, I don't think it is unreasonable for G5 schools to get a minimum of $5 million per payday game. It's a drop in the bucket. Instead, they settled for peanuts in comparison. 

 

For a lot of P4 schools, paying $5 million for a guaranteed win makes more sense than scheduling another P4 school that could result in a loss. 

 

There are roughly 60-75 schools in P4. There are 60-70 G5s in the DI FBS ranks and another 129 FCS members. Non-P4s having any negotiation power in this situation goes against the basic principles of supply & demand. Having any sort of union-style arrangement for G5/FCS would 100% backfire when the P4s realize they're paying collectively paying ~$350m (for one win each) that could be kept in house if they break away entirely. 

 

I'm not entirely sure what the solution is for G5/FCS, but creating their own division and expecting anything from the P4s ain't it. I'd much rather see G5/FCS make the move to collectively break away from the NCAA entirely and leave them with the problem child that is the P4. If it's going to become a capitalist market, be on the offensive instead of simply reacting to everything P4s do, which ultimately hurts G5/FCS. 

[GP1]

3 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

There are roughly 60-75 schools in P4. There are 60-70 G5s in the DI FBS ranks and another 129 FCS members. Non-P4s having any negotiation power in this situation goes against the basic principles of supply & demand. Having any sort of union-style arrangement for G5/FCS would 100% backfire when the P4s realize they're paying collectively paying ~$350m (for one win each) that could be kept in house if they break away entirely. 

 

I'm not entirely sure what the solution is for G5/FCS, but creating their own division and expecting anything from the P4s ain't it. I'd much rather see G5/FCS make the move to collectively break away from the NCAA entirely and leave them with the problem child that is the P4. If it's going to become a capitalist market, be on the offensive instead of simply reacting to everything P4s do, which ultimately hurts G5/FCS. 

It isn't supply and demand. It's a simple question. How much are P4 schools willing to pay for one tune up game a year that almost guarantees a win?  

 

$5 million is a lot to Akron, but considering TV money it's a drop in the bucket for P5 schools. I would bet schools like Alabama and OSU could get a sponsor to pay the $5 million. 

[Let'sGoZips94]

 

1:04 is Akron. 

 

Highly recommend watching VaTech, too. 

 

I really wish this game was on PC.