Let'sGoZips94 Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, AkronAlumnus said: I'll come back after next season and maybe you'll be the topic of my roast. Dorian was originally committed to OSU btw So he went from being committed to Ohio State to not playing at Rutgers to Kent. There is either a character issue, talent issue, or both. Quote
kreed5120 Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 56 minutes ago, AkronAlumnus said: We’ll see... I’ll revisit this after the season. I think some of you will be severely disappointed. My expectations are much lower this year, so I can’t really be disappointed I don't find it unreasonable to have lower expectations for next season. I also don't think we'll finish in the top ~60 for NET or go 17-1 in the MAC, like we did this year. I also don't see any team as good as Akron or Miami were last season for this coming season. Akron/Miami really pounded the rest of the league. Kent kind of did too to a lessor degree as I think they only had 1 loss to a MAC team not named Miami or Akron. I expect next year there will be 4-5 teams in the top 100-150 range battling it out for MAC supremacy. I'm not saying Akron will come out on top, but I'm not seeing anything from any of the other MAC schools that leads me to believe we should be written off. Edited 2 hours ago by kreed5120 Quote
Zips1991 Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 41 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: I don't find it unreasonable to have lower expectations for next season. I also don't think we'll finish in the top ~60 for NET or go 17-1 in the MAC, like we did this year. I also don't see any team as good as Akron or Miami were last season for this coming season. Akron/Miami really pounded the rest of the league. Kent kind of did too to a lessor degree as I think they only had 1 loss to a MAC team not named Miami or Akron. I expect next year there will be 4-5 teams in the top 100-150 range battling it out for MAC supremacy. I'm not saying Akron will come out on top, but I'm not seeing anything from any of the other MAC schools that leads me to believe we should be written off. I'm not as negative about next season as AkronAlumnus is but I do have lower expectations than last year, for sure. I felt okay when we started off by getting Staveskie but Burton and Hammer do nothing to make think we're on our way to another MAC title. Of course, who knows with every team having so many new players but as Kreed said, on the surface, it's not realistic to say this team will be better than last year. Edited 2 hours ago by Zips1991 Quote
RoyalBlu Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 7 hours ago, kreed5120 said: This is a strange comment. We have someone coming in that averaged 17.3 ppg on a .520 eFG%. Are we as good and deep at PG as last year? Most likely not, but at the same time it seems odd to call it a question mark. Steveskie is a proven D1 contributor. In fact, will probably make preseason All-MAC lists (1st or 2nd team). If anything I would say the 2 PG you listed for Kent are the real question mark as neither have played a minute of D1 collegiate basketball. The only thing you can judge either of them on is hype. Wait a minute ... neither Miller or Dorian are PGs. Both are shooting guards and listed as such. Jones might even be a wing, albeit a short one at 6-4. Their PG is Minnesota transfer Chansey Willis, who only played/started 7 games before being injured. But he was a stud at WMU before that averaging 16ppg and 5.8apg. True, Miller and Jones are more question marks with no D1 experience. But Kent has former 6th man Sumlin (injured last season) and All-Freshman Team guard Quinn Woidke in the wings with proven experience should those two fizzle. Edited 1 hour ago by RoyalBlu Quote
kreed5120 Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 19 minutes ago, Zips1991 said: I'm not as negative about next season as AkronAlumnus is but I do have lower expectations than last year, for sure. I felt okay when we started off by getting Staveskie but Burton and Hammer do nothing to make think we're on our way to another MAC title. Of course, who knows with every team having so many new players but as Kreed said, on the surface, it's not realistic to say this team will be better than last year. Akron was a very early adopter of NIL. I've heard jokes about other MAC coaches referring to Bud as the real league MVP. Akron probably still is at or near the top of the MAC in NIL spend, but the gap has certainly shrunk. It's not just in the MAC either. More and more mid-majors are stepping up their spending as well. With more money out there for players to get, Akron isn't going to be able to afford the same caliber roster that it could before. Not unless it doubles or triples it's current spending to restore the same disparity it once had. Quote
kreed5120 Posted 16 minutes ago Report Posted 16 minutes ago 1 hour ago, RoyalBlu said: Wait a minute ... neither Miller or Dorian are PGs. Both are shooting guards and listed as such. Jones might even be a wing, albeit a short one at 6-4. Their PG is Minnesota transfer Chansey Willis, who only played/started 7 games before being injured. But he was a stud at WMU before that averaging 66ppg and 5.8apg. True, Miller and Jones are more question marks with no D1 experience. But Kent has former 6th man Sumlin (injured last season) and All-Freshman Team guard Quinn Woidke in the wings with proven experience should those two fizzle. That's certainly a better argument than AkronAlumnus was attempting to make. You still listed 2 players who played a combined 7 games last season. Willis will be returning from a broken foot, which he had to get a secondary surgery on after re-injury. That type of injury with a secondary surgery can take up to 3 years for a player to return to 100% per the national institute of health. Sumlin's injury I'm not sure what it was, but it was severe enough that he missed the entire season. Depending on what the injury was it's hard to project what, if any, impact it might have on his game for next season. I would say the injury concerns surrounding both players still leaves questions on how effective both players will be. I will concede there is more certainty there than with the other 2 prior mentioned players that have yet to play. Quote
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