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One way to tell that a guy has way to much free time on his hands; he writes a piece of crap like "How Would West Virginia Fare in Newly Realigned Mid-American Conference?"

Another way to tell is if a person takes the time to read "How Would West Virginia Fare in Newly Realigned Mid-American Conference?" and then posts a comment about it on ZipsNation.

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3 hours ago, Zipmeister said:

One way to tell that a guy has way to much free time on his hands; he writes a piece of crap like "How Would West Virginia Fare in Newly Realigned Mid-American Conference?"

Another way to tell is if a person takes the time to read "How Would West Virginia Fare in Newly Realigned Mid-American Conference?" and then posts a comment about it on ZipsNation.

And another would be for someone to then read the article and then take the time to make an asshole response on ZipsNation.

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1 hour ago, a-zip said:

And another would be for someone to then read the article and then take the time to make an asshole response on ZipsNation.

 

I was referring to myself. Happy 4th.

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On 7/3/2020 at 7:21 AM, a-zip said:

Conference Realignment

 

Will never happen but would be nice!!

 

Probably not that. Looks like a new round may be starting though. The MAC could be affected if the AAC has to look for some new members.

 

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4 hours ago, ZippyRulz said:

 

Probably not that. Looks like a new round may be starting though. The MAC could be affected if the AAC has to look for some new members.

 

 

Latest rumor I've heard has Texas and Oklahoma going to the SEC in 2025. That would drop the Big 12 down to 8 teams and they could go back to their old moniker.

If the AAC picks off a couple of MAC teams, Akron will do just fine in a 10 team MAC.

 

https://www.cornnation.com/2021/7/22/22588087/frosted-flakes-texas-oklahoma-moving-to-the-sec-is-real

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Texas Tech, TCU, and another school have apparently reached out to the Pac12.

 

Kansas has apparently reached out to the Big Ten.

 

Hang on to your hats, ladies and gents. Goodness, this is going to be wild. 

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2 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

Texas Tech, TCU, and another school have apparently reached out to the Pac12.

 

Kansas has apparently reached out to the Big Ten.

 

Hang on to your hats, ladies and gents. Goodness, this is going to be wild. 

Eh this just appears to be the end of the Big 12. A couple leftovers will end up joining the AAC and that'll be it I think. Big news in sports but I don't see a ripple effect hitting the MAC

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8 minutes ago, zippy5 said:

Eh this just appears to be the end of the Big 12. A couple leftovers will end up joining the AAC and that'll be it I think. Big news in sports but I don't see a ripple effect hitting the MAC

 

Big12 will pick off the AAC, causing the AAC to refill. Too many big wigs & money tied up in the Big12. 

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54 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Big12 will pick off the AAC, causing the AAC to refill. Too many big wigs & money tied up in the Big12. 

 If the Big 12 does have to refill, and the BCS allows the newly reconstituted Big 12 to stay in and get a part of the football playoff money, you better believe there will be a huge effort to be a new member of the Big 12. My money is on the BCS siding with greed and refusing to let the Big 12 stay in. That strategy will allow more money for the BCS members because there will be fewer members to share in the pot.

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2 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

Texas Tech, TCU, and another school have apparently reached out to the Pac12.

 

Kansas has apparently reached out to the Big Ten.

 

Hang on to your hats, ladies and gents. Goodness, this is going to be wild. 

 

And about now there are probably 6-8 AAC and MWC schools reaching out to the Big 12, again.

 

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3 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Big12 will pick off the AAC, causing the AAC to refill. Too many big wigs & money tied up in the Big12. 

What big wigs are going to be left if Texas, OU, Ok State, TCU and Texas Tech are gone? Iowa State?

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2 hours ago, 72 Roo said:

 If the Big 12 does have to refill, and the BCS allows the newly reconstituted Big 12 to stay in and get a part of the football playoff money, you better believe there will be a huge effort to be a new member of the Big 12. My money is on the BCS siding with greed and refusing to let the Big 12 stay in. That strategy will allow more money for the BCS members because there will be fewer members to share in the pot.

The BCS has been gone for almost a decade now

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My bad. The BCS played its last season ending championship in 2014. It was succeeded by the College Football Playoff made up of the same members who were in the BCS, but raking in lots more money. Interestingly enough, Forbes reports that if the proposed 8 team CFP becomes reality the TV pot to split amongst the 65 members will increase 6-7 fold. That alone will pay for much of an athletic dept budget.The TV payout is exclusive of the money offered by each bowl to the participants.

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Dateline January 20, 2152

Washington, D.C.

Federal authorities today ruled that the Behemoth League, comprised of all sixty-four Big Time (formerly D1) college football teams except Notre Dame, constitute an illegal monopoly and ordered it dissolved just like they did with the phone company last century. Officials at the Justice Department recommend a return to conference affiliations that existed in 1970, but are giving schools twelve months to institute their own plan. Unidentified administrators at several universities, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to do so, stated that the break-up of the Behemoth League could bankrupt their school.  Behemoth Commissioner Kevin Warren Jr. didn't offer much specific insight into what the Behemoth League's response might be, but acknowledged that college football was on the brink of some massive changes.

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A Reddit thread (so...):

"[Dawg Sports] An SEC source with knowledge of the inner workings of the league office: 'A couple more dominoes fall and we're in a situation where the SEC could become its own division. more teams have reached out than what's being reported. 20-24 within the realm of possibility.' "

 

Reddit thread

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1 hour ago, Blue & Gold said:

A Reddit thread (so...):

"[Dawg Sports] An SEC source with knowledge of the inner workings of the league office: 'A couple more dominoes fall and we're in a situation where the SEC could become its own division. more teams have reached out than what's being reported. 20-24 within the realm of possibility.' "

 

Reddit thread

 

The video that is about a third of the way down the link you provided is incredibly funny.

 

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21 hours ago, Blue & Gold said:

A Reddit thread (so...):

"[Dawg Sports] An SEC source with knowledge of the inner workings of the league office: 'A couple more dominoes fall and we're in a situation where the SEC could become its own division. more teams have reached out than what's being reported. 20-24 within the realm of possibility.' "

 

Reddit thread

 

2019 Revenue by Conference

 

Big Ten $768.9 million

SEC: $728.9 million

Pac-12: $533.8 million

ACC: $496.7 million

Big 12: $409.2 million

 

It would be interesting to see if the ACC follows in the Big 12's footsteps and member schools begin contacting the Big Ten & SEC. The PAC12 can hold its own, especially if it adds some Big12 defects, due to its west coast proximity. If the Power 5 becomes the Power 3, does this help or hurt college athletics? Do G5 schools look to combine, creating better G5 conferences? 

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Conference realignment?  No.

College football realignment?  Yes.

End of NCAA?  As we know it?  Yes.  Forever?...We can only hope.

 

We have passed the point of shuffling chairs around for P5 schools. It's so obvious where they are going and that is on their own whether or not this OK/TX thing happens. The NCAA may not exist after they separate because their only purpose was to keep players from making money and now that NIL is in effect, there is no reason for them to exist. Good riddance.  The lack of imagination from the NCAA is appalling.  

 

The G5 schools shouldn't spend five minutes thinking about shuffling the chairs. At some point reshuffling is just painting over the mold on the walls without addressing the water problem. It's just cosmetic. G5 energy should be directed towards creating their own division that serves the universities, players, students, alumni, fans and local communities the with their athletic programs. Now is the time for them to put their heads together and figure out the future. More of the past with some tinkering around isn't going to work.

 

I welcome all of these changes. It will force everyone involved to do what they should have done years ago and college football will be better off because of it. We can be so much better than what we are now.

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10 hours ago, GP1 said:

Conference realignment?  No.

College football realignment?  Yes.

End of NCAA?  As we know it?  Yes.  Forever?...We can only hope.

 

We have passed the point of shuffling chairs around for P5 schools. It's so obvious where they are going and that is on their own whether or not this OK/TX thing happens. The NCAA may not exist after they separate because their only purpose was to keep players from making money and now that NIL is in effect, there is no reason for them to exist. Good riddance.  The lack of imagination from the NCAA is appalling.  

 

The G5 schools shouldn't spend five minutes thinking about shuffling the chairs. At some point reshuffling is just painting over the mold on the walls without addressing the water problem. It's just cosmetic. G5 energy should be directed towards creating their own division that serves the universities, players, students, alumni, fans and local communities the with their athletic programs. Now is the time for them to put their heads together and figure out the future. More of the past with some tinkering around isn't going to work.

 

I welcome all of these changes. It will force everyone involved to do what they should have done years ago and college football will be better off because of it. We can be so much better than what we are now.

I'm in agreement with GP1 here. Texas and Ok are gone and with their departure the Big 12 is dead. There is no way the rest of the CFP teams will allow the remaining Big 12 to add more teams and keep their membership in the CFP. That will mean adding more teams that will split the pie of money and that will not happen. Look for some members of the Big 12 (Colorado, OK St) to go to the PAC 12. The rest are screwed. The ACC will break up with NC going to the Big 10, maybe even ND. Maybe FSU to the SEC. What emerges is three super conferences that all leave the NCAA for football.

 

The MAC and Akron will play no role in this. That is a good thing. These changes finally force the G5 to look to their own future w/o the former P5. Let the G5 stay in the NCAA and have their own championship. Forget about the money of the CPF, the conference network money and the big bowl payoff money.  The G5 schools were never going to taste that. It's better that they focus on what they can control. Look to their own interests and let the greed of the P5 eventually eat them alive from the inside. It will take decades, but it will happen. 

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11 hours ago, 72 Roo said:

I'm in agreement with GP1 here. Texas and Ok are gone and with their departure the Big 12 is dead. There is no way the rest of the CFP teams will allow the remaining Big 12 to add more teams and keep their membership in the CFP. That will mean adding more teams that will split the pie of money and that will not happen. Look for some members of the Big 12 (Colorado, OK St) to go to the PAC 12. The rest are screwed. The ACC will break up with NC going to the Big 10, maybe even ND. Maybe FSU to the SEC. What emerges is three super conferences that all leave the NCAA for football.

 

The MAC and Akron will play no role in this. That is a good thing. These changes finally force the G5 to look to their own future w/o the former P5. Let the G5 stay in the NCAA and have their own championship. Forget about the money of the CPF, the conference network money and the big bowl payoff money.  The G5 schools were never going to taste that. It's better that they focus on what they can control. Look to their own interests and let the greed of the P5 eventually eat them alive from the inside. It will take decades, but it will happen. 

 

There is no way Colorado will leave the Big 12 for the PAC 12. For that matter, there is no way Colorado is leaving the Big 12 for any conference.

My guess is Kansas and Iowa State will join the Big 10. Both are AAU members; both would make a reasonable travel partner - Kansas for Nebraska and Iowa State for Iowa.

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11 hours ago, 72 Roo said:

let the greed of the P5 eventually eat them alive from the inside. It will take decades, but it will happen. 

It is already happening 72. The disparity between AL/OSU/Clemson vs the rest of P5 is drastic at this point. Some believe it is the money, but they are wrong. It is the vast disparity in recruiting advantage that comes from winning. This disparity can only be resolved by required changes in scheduling difficulty based upon previous season success and by making the "playoffs" a real playoff by eliminating the invitational tournament aspect of it and requiring total season result as benchmark for entry. If these schools want to act like professional leagues, treat them like teams get treated at the professional level. If the players want to make money, treat them like professionals where there are no weeks off.

 

I don't say any of this to be malicious. It's the reality of P5 football in 2021. Some would say this is a Faustian Bargain that started years ago, but the Faustian Bargain assumes someone/something sacrifices the moral high ground for money/power. I don't think P5 schools ever occupied a moral high ground. They are businesses staffed by some of the biggest sleazebags in the country who would willingly destroy any organization they work for to advance themselves.  The evidence is at the G5 level.

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22 minutes ago, Zipmeister said:

 

There is no way Colorado will leave the Big 12 for the PAC 12. For that matter, there is no way Colorado is leaving the Big 12 for any conference.

Don't tell Colorado, but they played in the PAC 12 Championship Game in 2016.

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