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We were at the match last night and enjoyed the evening, the atmosphere, the crowd and the Rowdies. I just want to add "Thank you!" to all who post here on the Soccer Forum for being informative, insightful and civil in your posts. I'm sure all of us wanted to see the Zips pull out a 1-0 win at the end, against a ranked team, but when we didn't you're not "never buying a ticket again!!!!!!" Over on the "Football" forum they're going nuclear and want to not only fire the coach, the assistant coaches, the AD, the cheerleaders, the band (I know, a little hypocritical of me, I wanted to see Women's coach gone last season, but over there they want to not just fire him, but string him up!) drop football altogether, leave the MAC, and even drop sports altogether, after a loss to a name school. Thanks for your cool heads....

There is a 30 for 30 about the Patriots. Bledsoe had been beaten up pretty bad in his career before his injury. He became a very nervous QB after he came back and that was one factor in his benching. He just wasn't aggressive anymore. At some point, when a QB gets beat up, they sort of cross a line and never go back to being an aggressive player again. I didn't see the game, but the QB has been beaten up and maybe he isn't the same aggressive player he was before.

Finley was bad from the jump. Puzzled me as I watched. The O line didn't seem THAT BAD. something else going on there.

I watched the offensive debacle, offensive in both senses of the word. I have no idea what was wrong with Finley. He wasn't that bad last season. Something more than a sore arm going on there. With that said, that was a bad Wyomong team and should have been beaten. My comment again and again has been that if football is to continue being played at Akron it has to be at a level where the program can consistently compete. That is NOT at any DI level. Hasn't been. I watched this program in the '60's and '70s when it was ALWAYS competitive. Look it up. I would be all for dropping back to DII. I don't think this program would be real competitive even at I-AA. And at that level you are still getting players poached by bigger schools. I'd rather watch them play competitive games against the IUP's,the Ashlands, Sag States, Grand Valley States etc. etc. as opposed to the crap we see now. Maybe something is brewing with a new sheriff in town. As for the rest of this season, go to most of the games,hope they beat KSU and see what happens.

You better watch. I brought this up maybe 10 years ago and found a burning cross in my front yard.

You have identified a key problem. What if instead of a marketing problem, it was a public service problem? The public has historically stomached funding public services that don't make money because the benefits outweigh the costs. For example, the only public transportation system that makes money in the USA is the NYC subway system, at least it used to. The rest are basically welfare programs for people who can't afford transportation but need to get places such as work. So again, what if at a modest cost, the football program benefited the athletes students alumni fans and general community around Akron? What if it's as simple as playing football games on days of the week and times that allow people to attend a fun day at the University their tax dollars support?

The soccer ball in last night’s game should be super healthy. The ball recuperated many, many times in last night’s game. the announcer was laughably very bad.

I've been saying this for years also. You should go back and read all of my posts and get back to me in a couple of years.

Of course they're not. They have every reason to let students go into debt to support these programs that will never be competitive, while administrators pad their resumes, collecting 6, 7-figure salaries on the backs of student debt.

Collegiate athletics is just a marketing arm for the University. Them turning a profit isn't a necessity, but with all marketing plans you have to evaluate whether the reach it provides is worth the dollars that you're spending. Little to no good has come from football in the past 15-20 years. In fact, the negatives have only tarnished perceptions of the university. Something likely needs to done. Ideally, it would be great if the MAC as a whole decided they can no longer keep up and decided to drop down to FCS, preferably non-scholaship FCS. Trying to keep up with the Jones's, even at the G5 level, has grown prohibitively expensive.

You are defending BS. Playing D-1 football serves nobody but 6, 7-figure administrators who use these universities as stepping stones to other more lucrative endeavors; ala Matthew Wilson.

I've been saying this for years. There's a path forward. I just don't think anyone at the G4 schools is interested in looking into it.

That's a great question. I don't know what their financials are. Maybe someone at the MAC could look at it. Our basketball program is a great MAC program. Does everyone realize moving to the MVC would greatly increase the competition?

Yes, could very well be.

Yes, fixed.

Same These were my thoughts exactly. I mentioned to a few of my friends at the game how Finley didn't look comfortable (I'm still surprised by that) and how he looked like he was aiming the ball instead of just letting it fly. But then my brother-in-law, who was watching on ESPN+ said it was due to him being rushed all night. So I wanted to get some expert opinions 😂

Wouldn’t those “similarly situated schools” be most or all MAC schools as well? What needs to happen is the G6 in general needs to figure out how and where they want to be in this new college athletics landscape.

Idk. What about YSU? Or any of the Missouri Valley schools? How do they make ends meet?

Did you mean to say 'there's no reason NOT to start exploring conferences and alliances with similarly situated and like minded schools'?

I was there live and haven’t had it in me to watch the replay. I felt the OL was generally serviceable aside from a few plays. Also noticed Finley bailing out of the pocket early instead of stepping up a few plays as well. So I think a little of both, but lean more towards Finely at fault.

I have to ask. What's so special about the MAC? I'm not advocating leaving the MAC and spending money to do it, but there's no reason to not to start exploring conferences and alliances with similarly situated and like minded schools.

Still numb from Thursday night. As LZIp mentioned above, I loved what I saw out of Patrick and White before they went out with injury. Hopefully our D is truly stout & it wasn't simply an inept Wyoming offense we were witnessing. Without saying both, would you guys pin Finley's troubles primarily on Finley, or was our OL to blame? I was fully expecting Finley to light it up this season 😞

I don’t understand how we have so many guys hurt Week 1: I may have missed something, but notable guys I did not see on the sidelines (and didn’t play): David, Shor, Motley-Simmons Notable guys I saw on the sideline not in uniform: Gee, Davis, Curry, Davis, Newell. Pretty disappointing that two for sure starters and the rest at least being 2 deep type players weren’t even available for game 1. Losing Patrick was huge and I like what I was seeing out of White as well before he got hurt. Hope those guys are back before week 3. Finley’s play was inexcusable. Adams’ drop was inexcusable, but it’s even sadder that he’s hardly able to get on the field now. I have to assume he’s fully healthy after 2+ seasons. I thought defense was solid enough (besides the last drive). I thought Joe Mo punting on 4th down with 3 minutes left was inexcusable as well. Really disappointed we couldn’t even score a point. Use next week to continue evaluating all the new players, give Roggow or Johnson a few drives, then shore up our rotations for week 3.

I'm not defending the BS. I'd like to eliminate the BS and make MAC athletic departments benefit the athletes students alumni fans and general communities around their schools.

There should be MAC sports. Football should be part of MAC sports. They need to find a way to make all MAC sports work.