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What did the Zips in is they only have 1 OOC top 100 win (Marshall 74 RPI/ 99 Kenpom) and 0 top 50 wins. Akron needs to schedule better OOC if it ever hopes to get an at-large even if it means sacrificing a home game to collect a check to play at Pitt, Cincy, or wherever.

Last week it had Akron in as a 12 seed and now it has Ohio in instead as a 14th seed. It's too early in the year for me to care about this kind of stuff.

He already had his degree when he transferred to Akron from Michigan

I expect Big Dog to be doubled so I went under on his 16 points, but went over on the 11 3s as Big Dog will be dishing out the assists.

Big Dog getting to 33 points had just as much to do with the pace of the game as it did with WMU deciding to play him man. I wouldn't expect him to hit that number again as nobody in the MAC will run that level of up-tempo. The best way of guarding the Zips is playing Big Dog man, assuming you have someone big enough to slow Big Dog down. Fortunately for us there are few to no teams in the MAC that do.

Honestly I feel we got the best CMU had and we STILL won. All this Zips team has done is win and still people find things to complain about.

I wish Akron really had the 2nd best D in the conference. If we did, combined with our offensive firepower, we'd steamroll through MAC play. Of course basing a teams offensive/defensive numbers without factoring in pace/SOS is a highly inaccurate measure of team strength.

I agree we will lose a game or 2 along the way that we shouldn't, but I don't feel that it will be tonight. Big Dog should be able to carve this defense up. It will just be a matter of if our shooters can knock down their open looks when they get them, which should be often. CMU is a 1 man wrecking crew offensively. Rayson is averaging a respectable 18 points per game, but that is coming on an inefficient .346 shooting. The focus should be getting the ball out of Keene's hands (easier said than done) and force someone else to beat you.

With those G5 teams being predominately MAC schools. Odds look like we either will get him or we will be forced to play against him the next 4 years.

I wasn't responding to you. My response was to Balsy. I do think it is no coincidence however that his 2 best seasons at Auburn were his 1st 2 years when he was coaching some other coaches recruits. Edit: Like I've said I'd love for Bowden to prove me wrong and hopefully he will. I just have my doubts.

If you want to give Terry Bowden a pass, which is fair, for year 1 at Akron then you must also acknowledge that Bowden benefited year 1 at Auburn (the year he won SEC COY) from the talent that was left there for him by the previous coach. His success at Auburn must be why he was fired midway through his 6th season. I don't think he is a terrible coach, but also don't think he would get the notoriety he does if not for his last name. If Akron actually starts to contend in the MAC I'll be the 1st to apologize and admit that I was wrong. In fact Terry please prove me wrong. The MAC isn't like the B1G where the odds are so heavily stacked against a Maryland or Rutgers that they really have no chance of competing. A great coach can come in and build a contender in a few years. Fleck who you so vehemently hate turned an 1-11 team to a 13-1 team in a matter of 3 seasons.

We can agree to disagree Captain. Tommy and Terry have been head coach for a combined 23 seasons (FBS) and have 1 conference championship to show for it. There is certainly no arguing the fact without Bobby's success at FSU the Bowden family wouldn't be treated like college football royalty.

I think I'll pass. I actually expect us to cover this game assuming the line stays at -3. We are due for a quality shooting night and we seem to struggle against teams with size, which CMU doesn't have. CMU seems to struggle against size, which is something we do have depending on what lineup we roll out. I don't feel they are capable of beating us in a halfcourt game and that is what I think we will make it.

Relevant Edit: I actually expect us to be a 2-3 point favorite.

Are you trying to tell me they haven't used their dads legacy to bolster their career? In fact I've heard Terry say he uses the Bowden name to gain a footing in Florida recruiting. I wonder why the Bowden name is so big in that state? Can you please answer that for me?

You forgot the part where his kids road his coattail to achieve mild success themselves.

I'd almost have to assume they'd bring the 3 man to double team as Big Dog would have no trouble passing out of a double team against a 5'9 guard, which could open up Ivey cutting to the basket. WMU does have some size on their bench in the form of 6'11 Luke Meyer and 6'10 Darohn Scott, however, forcing them to sit 1 or both of their starting post players to match our size plays into our favor.

What amazes me is I believe Fleck went from making $800k to making $3.5M and people are questions his integrity. What person wouldn't leave their current job, no matter how much they loved it, if someone offered to ~4.5X their salary.

They are just really undersized and not just with their 2 5'9 guards. Their top 2 minute earners in the post come in at 6'6 and 6'8. They need their shots to be falling in order to stay competitive.

I feel the marginal cost the school spends to go to a bowl game is worth it, particularly if you land in a higher profile bowl like WMU did this year. A school like Akron couldn't afford 4 hours worth of commercials on ESPN. The real cost is what schools spend on stadiums, athlete villages, IPF, coaches, etc to be in a position to go to a bowl in the 1st place. Those are the areas that schools bleed money.

You mean Bowden had success with someone elses recruits while Miles put 11+ seasons in at LSU with LSU never finishing with fewer than 8 wins during his tenure? I think that is the consistent success you talked about wanting to get out of Akron. Not the 3 5-7 seasons and 1 6th place MAC finish we received that resulted in an 8-5 record. Age is Miles biggest deterrant. There really isn't a market out there for 63 year old coaches. Still doesn't change the fact he is a much more accomplished and a far better coach than Bowden.

Are you really trying to compare someone that had a proven track record of success in the toughest conference in America to Rob Ianello who was a WR coach before becoming Akron's head coach? WMU has a 13-1 season and an access bowl appearance to show for it. I'd trade 10 Potato Bowl trophies for that. Minnesota might have taken their coach, but nobody can take away the excitement their fan base had this season. I'd throw $100 down that Akron will never make an Access Bowl appearance with Bowden as our coach. Anyone care to accept that wager?

He's had 1 winning season (a year in which we still finished 6th in the MAC) compared to 4 losing ones so I don't get why people around here want to label him as a Patron Saint. The MAC East was the worst I can ever remember it being and we still couldn't make it to 6 wins. Miles I feel is one of the best recruiters in the game. We saw what Fleck achieved this season at WMU by having the MAC's #1 recruiting class 3 years in a row.

No, their stadium capacity is 30,200 and 26,146 was the announced attendance for that game.

If it was as easy as swapping out Bowden for Miles, I'd do it in a second. Like others said we don't don't have the money to buy out Bowden and even if we did have a vacancy, I'd venture to guess we'd have to pay Miles significantly more than what we are paying Bowden.