I think some of you may have missed my point, I only brought up basketball because we were discussing it (football is even more of a money drain), my original point was that university sports seem to be cited as a draw and as quality of life factor for students. It's completely subjective to how those things affect student life but what is not is how much is taken out of student fees to support those activities when again it might serve 5% of the student population for millions of dollars, whereas club activities serve a much smaller segment of the population for a miniscule amount. All sports drain the budget, some much more than others. My comment was aimed at all collegiate athletic activities, wondering what the real ROI is for the students who are all "investors" in those activities. That was what I meant about re-evaluation.