4-2 is great for UA, especially compared to recent seasons. However, the difference is that here at UA, an 8-4 season would be a great and winning season and we would all be very, very happy. At the major schools that are heavily followed, 8-4 is a terrible season and gets the coach fired. Until we start putting up consecutive 10-2, 11-1 seasons with some bowl victories scattered in, nothing will change for Akron. It's all about expectations and real wins. Not just improving, but being a consistent winner at a high level. To us, 8-4 is great. To a casual fan, 8-4 is mediocre.