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Fired for 47-51 in 8 3/4 seasons. Although they went to bowl games in five of the last six years.I don't think that's the case about five of the last six years. They haven't been to a Bowl game since our meeting in the Motor City Bowl I don't think. He did go to a Bowl game in 3 of his first 4 years however.

A lot of good guys on that staff. Mauro Monz and Dana Chambers were two guys I always enjoyed talking to and had a lot of respect for. Hope they land on their feet somewhere soon.

No, he's been a failure twice as a head coach, and he's approaching 60. Very similar career at Memphis to JD at Akron, being that he started off with a bang and hasn't been able to win in the last 3-4 years. Besides that, he's rumored for BCS coordinator jobs at FSU and Georgia that will pay him a lot more money. We need somebody young and energetic, with a history of succes as a head coach, that can recruit. I'm all for going the 1-aa head coach route.

1. 2005 MAC Championship- Watching YouTube video of the Getsy to Hixon bomb in the closing seconds of that game still gives me chills2. 2004 Marshall Comeback- We were down 28-7 with 8 minutes left in the game... The thing was over with, the stadium was empty, but the Zips sideline still looked like the kids were playing for a Super Bowl. One of the most amazing comebacks I've ever been witness to at any level. You can really look at that game as the turning point in the wrong direction for Marshall football and I'm glad I was there for it.3. 2006 victory at NC State- At a time where it really looked like our program was turning the corner, JD showed a lot of stones and went for the touchdown and the win on the final play instead of kicking for overtime, a decision that would've likely resulted in a loss. Was Kennedy in? I'm not sure, but that stadium was stunned. Watching the student section chuck bottles at our players as they ran off the field in victory was one of the most satisfying "take that BCS bitch" moments I've ever witnessed. Chucky A's post-game was priceless.4. 2004 Turnaround- Many forget we started that season out 1-4, coming off a 7-5 season, and I know for a fact there were a lot of grumblings around that locker room that this new staff had already lost control of the ship. JD stuck to guns, stuck to his message, inspired a group of seniors to take control of their team, and ripped off 5 victories in a row, coming one half of football short of taking the team to its first MAC title game.5. 2005 Rubber Bowl victory over NIU- The NIU program was flying high at this point, and was definitely the elite program in the conference. The Zips were searching for an identity after a rough opening season loss to Purdue, and came to the Rubber Bowl and physically dominated and manhandled their opponent. Garret Wolfe was tearing up the NCAA, but was held to under 30 yards on the day by the Zips. Great win.6. 2008 Syracuse Victory- Sure, Syracuse sucked, but it was a BCS victory and a day of misery for one Delone Carter, the local product who refused to even give the Zips the time of day.7. 2005 Can't State Turkey Bowl- Blizzard like conditions, a pregame full team melay at mid-field, and our first MAC East title on the line. And we beat the HELL out of the flushes and had fun doing it. Will never forget the "MAC CHAMPS" spelled in the snow in the upper corner of the bowl by a dedicated group of fans.8. 2009 Morgan St... The Opening of Infocision- It had been an eternity coming for Zips fans, and finally, we had our football palace. The team responded in kind before an awesome crowd by taking care of business. It felt good to be a Zips fan that day.9. 2007 OSU First half- All I heard all week was how the mighty Buckeyes were gonna stomp poor little ole Akron U. The looks of some of the Suckeye fans faces at halftime of that game when their "National Championship Caliber" OSWhoers were locked in the battle of their lives with the "lowly" Zips was awesome. Too bad we couldn't bring any offense that day, but it was still a whale of an effort, at least for a half.10. 2009 Can't State victory- We sucked, they were supposedly competing for the MAC East title and riding a wave of new found offense under their fabulous freshman QB. They found out this day that our freshman QB was better, and that Can't State still and always will suck. For all JD's failings, he was 5-1 against the pile of shit from across town. It was his last victory, but it was a great one to have.You made a lot of mistakes and took a lot of wrong turns Coach Brookhart, and in the end you weren't the man for this job, but I personally do thank you for a lot of great memories and accomplishments during your time here, I thank you for your hard work, and I wish you luck in your future endeavors. GO ZIPS!

Exactly.

*cricket* *cricket*

SourceInteresting that he was a former Zip.Beat me to it. I was just about to ask if anyone knew if Tim Zetts had any eligibility remaining, as I knew he was on staff. Coach to player in 24 hours, wonder if that's ever happened in the last 40 years?

The shot you see of the Info videoboard at the beginning of the clip says it all to me...:"BASKETBALL SEASON TICKETS NOW AVAILABLE"

Took me a while to get that one but I'm gonna go ahead and give you a big "BA DUM CHHHHHHHHHHHH" on that one... quite clever!

Alright, we've put it off long enough. After what we witnessed last week, does anyone really think we're gonna win this one?

Here's the thing... while some of you might want to save Nicely for the next 4 years, you can be damn well sure JD is not at all concerned about saving the eligibility of his best quarterback for the coach that's going to take his place next year. It's win now or get out of town for Mr. Brookhart, and mark my words, we may see a lot of redshirts come off in the next few weeks. JD has to play the best players now, because now is all he's got.

I've always been curious about this. Did Frye stay an extra year because he wanted to, or did he consult with professionals about his draft prospects and realize there was a chance of not getting drafted or becoming a Nate Davis (before Davis of course)? Remember, if the Browns were the only team stupid enough to draft him in the third round after his senior year, who else would have drafted him? Who would have drafted him after his junior year?I actually think Frye made an informed decision to stay his senior year because he realized from talking with others he may not be ready for Sunday afternoons. Maybe Fitzgerald, et al talked with him, but I think the rational decision was to stay at UofA because he was not ready.I was graduated and out of the program at the time of all of this, but there were quite a few guys still on the team who I had played with and was close with. The story I got was that Frye was livid with the firing of Owens, so much so that he refused to even look at Mike Thomas, much less speak to him. At the team meeting the day following the victory over Ohio and the subsequent Owens firing, with Mike Thomas in the room, Frye proceeded to stand up, with tears in his eyes, and tell the team they didn't have to stand by and take this, and that he wasn't going to have his senior season ruined by someone "not a part of this team who was only looking out for himself." Needless to say it was a tense meeting. Other seniors to be such as Chase Blackburn stood up and said they would refuse to play for anyone else. At that point pretty much everyone assumed that Frye was going pro, and from what I understood he was in fact projected higher following that season (3600 passing yards) than after his senior season (2400 passing yards). Frye pretty much refused to talk to anyone in the athletic department outside of the assistant coaches who remained employed and in office until a new head coach was hired, at which time they would recieve token interviews as is the norm and be subsequently fired to make room for a new staff. When JD was hired, he didn't contact Frye immediately, as I guess Charlie expected him too, and there were rumors that JD and some of his new hires were already actively recruiting a JUCO QB out of California, who JD had been looking at at Pitt, to come in and start. Frye felt extremely dissed obviously, and at that point he made it known to most of his buddies on the team that he was leaving. JD did in fact ask to speak with Frye shortly afterwards however, and if any of you have ever had the chance to sit down with JD one on one, you know the guy, regardless of your opinion of his coaching abilities, is great with words, bullshitter or not. Whatever was said in that meeting was obviously enough for Charlie, as there was a team meeting the next day, which he appeared at (as I understand it he was not present at JD's first official "team meeting"), and he announced to the team that he was returning and that they were going to win a MAC Championship with JD at the helm. Frye however, as many of you know, has always been more loyal to Owens, as whenever he's talked about his college experience he's always cited Owens for his success as opposed to Brookhart. He also, regrettably in my opinion, currently does a lot more for ASHLAND football (golf outings, fundraisers, works with the team in the offseason) than he does for the Zips (nothing that I'm aware of?) But there you go, at least direct from the guys I know that were there at the time, you now know the rest of the story.Excellent insight. Thanks for this and I really mean that.After reading this, I dislike Frye even more than I did before. Throw in some dislike for Chase Blackburn as well. JD should have run those two off when he took over. Never leave cancer in the patient. Faust didn't run enough guys off when he took over either and we had veteran players actively subverting the team every chance they had. I thought Frye's public comments after Owens was fired were the signs of a spoiled brat. Man was I right. UofA (the taxpayers of Ohio) paid for him to go to college...made him the focus of the program to the point they concocted a Frye for Heisman campaign...Frye was given the team after Sparks was hurt...the list could go on. UofA did a lot for Frye and for him not to give back is absolutely disgusting. This is the United States and he is free to support anything he wants, but the support Jason Taylor gives the school is legendary. Frye has become an afterthought and JT continues his Hall of Fame career in the NFL.One of the more interesting points is Frye wouldn't look at Mike Thomas. This is the sign of a weak personality. I work in a very harsh business (construction) and I can't tell you the number of times I have had the pleasure of looking another man in the face and calling him an a-hole and have been called an a-hole myself. The next day I see the same person and it is as if nothing happened. If Frye was any kind of a man, he would have taken Thomas aside and given him a piece of his mind. Instead, he hides from him. What a temper tantrum thowing boob.....If I was Owens, I would ask Frye not to tell people he is responsible for Frye's "success". After all, Frye's success consists of a losing college record, getting drafted by the only team stupid enough to draft him, putting up laughable numbers in the NFL losing time like he did in college, getting traded after the first game to Seattle where he began the remainder of his career on the bench (don't forget the Browns won 10 games after Frye was traded and DA went to the Pro Bowl. they would have had a losing season with Frye and his "talent") and now he is third string on the worst team in the NFL. His pro career has been so bad it would be hard to sit down for a day and make up that story. A sitcom writer couldn't make up something that funny.Thanks again for the reaffirmation ITZ.In defense of guys like Blackburn, before any of those seniors got up and spoke in that meeting I've heard that there was an older member of the Board of Trustees that came in to address the team, before Mike Thomas was in the room (this meeting took place in the main large lecture hall in Olin Hall, where most whole team meetings took place in the Owens era) and basically gave a speech on how much respect he had for Lee Owens, how wrong this decision was, and how he had learned through military service to never give up, and he wasn't going to give up on Lee Owens remaining as the head football coach at the University of Akron. Needless to say, this got a bunch of 18-21 year olds riled up and believing that they could somehow save their coaches job, when that was obviously not going to happen. Chase and others were most likely standing up and saying the things that they were because they believed through some sort of team insurrection they could save their coaches job... they were just trying to do their part for a man they felt loyal to, not to be disloyal to the University. Lee Owens had personally called many of the players and had them over to his house shortly after he'd gotten fired the night before, and basically made Mike Thomas out to be a dishonest and sneaky villian. When Thomas did finally address that meeting he quickly put down any insurrection by saying if anyone wished to transfer, their papers were ready, and that he was doing what he felt was in the best interest of the University. To Blackburn's credit, once JD and staff were on campus, nobody bought into the system and what JD was selling as hard as Chase did. In the end, he was a University of Akron guy, not a Lee Owens guy, and he fought his ass off his senior year and helped resurect a struggling team after a horrific 0-3 start when a lot of guys were grumbling and losing any faith they had in the new coach. A lot of guys didn't buy into JD, and were run off that spring... Chase wasn't one of them.

I got it confirmed this morning that Jac was in fact caught stealing from his teammates and coaches, and had been doing so for a long time. What a POS. I could never have even thought about stealing from my teammates, they were closer to me than my family. When you spend that much time with a group of guys and bleed and sweat and go to battle with them every Saturday, it creates a bond stronger than blood, but I guess that's only true for guys who aren't worthless thugs like Jacquemain. And from a senior QB, a guy who's supposed to be leading the team, wow, I can't even imagine how he could live with himself. I'm not sure why JD said it wasn't a criminal matter, because thievery, regardless of where it's done and who it's done to, is still a crime, and a worse crime than normal in this case IMO. Unimaginable to me how he could do that.

There's a lot that people who have never been in a college football program don't understand about it and never will. The mindset of the players and coaches that I see some of you assume around here is so far off I can't even get started on it. I've never been a college coach, but I was a player for 5 seasons, and as a player I saw a very similar situation (which week is our coach gonna get fired??) as the one the team currently sits in. I was just trying to offer a little insight into the mindset of JD and the team at this point.

Well it's sure long and includes the word sucks a lot.Well there's a lot about the situation that sucks, and a lot of sucking going on, feel me homeslice?

I've always been curious about this. Did Frye stay an extra year because he wanted to, or did he consult with professionals about his draft prospects and realize there was a chance of not getting drafted or becoming a Nate Davis (before Davis of course)? Remember, if the Browns were the only team stupid enough to draft him in the third round after his senior year, who else would have drafted him? Who would have drafted him after his junior year?I actually think Frye made an informed decision to stay his senior year because he realized from talking with others he may not be ready for Sunday afternoons. Maybe Fitzgerald, et al talked with him, but I think the rational decision was to stay at UofA because he was not ready.I was graduated and out of the program at the time of all of this, but there were quite a few guys still on the team who I had played with and was close with. The story I got was that Frye was livid with the firing of Owens, so much so that he refused to even look at Mike Thomas, much less speak to him. At the team meeting the day following the victory over Ohio and the subsequent Owens firing, with Mike Thomas in the room, Frye proceeded to stand up, with tears in his eyes, and tell the team they didn't have to stand by and take this, and that he wasn't going to have his senior season ruined by someone "not a part of this team who was only looking out for himself." Needless to say it was a tense meeting. Other seniors to be such as Chase Blackburn stood up and said they would refuse to play for anyone else. At that point pretty much everyone assumed that Frye was going pro, and from what I understood he was in fact projected higher following that season (3600 passing yards) than after his senior season (2400 passing yards). Frye pretty much refused to talk to anyone in the athletic department outside of the assistant coaches who remained employed and in office until a new head coach was hired, at which time they would recieve token interviews as is the norm and be subsequently fired to make room for a new staff. When JD was hired, he didn't contact Frye immediately, as I guess Charlie expected him too, and there were rumors that JD and some of his new hires were already actively recruiting a JUCO QB out of California, who JD had been looking at at Pitt, to come in and start. Frye felt extremely dissed obviously, and at that point he made it known to most of his buddies on the team that he was leaving. JD did in fact ask to speak with Frye shortly afterwards however, and if any of you have ever had the chance to sit down with JD one on one, you know the guy, regardless of your opinion of his coaching abilities, is great with words, bullshitter or not. Whatever was said in that meeting was obviously enough for Charlie, as there was a team meeting the next day, which he appeared at (as I understand it he was not present at JD's first official "team meeting"), and he announced to the team that he was returning and that they were going to win a MAC Championship with JD at the helm. Frye however, as many of you know, has always been more loyal to Owens, as whenever he's talked about his college experience he's always cited Owens for his success as opposed to Brookhart. He also, regrettably in my opinion, currently does a lot more for ASHLAND football (golf outings, fundraisers, works with the team in the offseason) than he does for the Zips (nothing that I'm aware of?) But there you go, at least direct from the guys I know that were there at the time, you now know the rest of the story.

Dear Coach Brookhart,So the shit has really hit the fan this week. You lost your starting Quarterback, the senior leader of your football team, for the rest of the season. It was not in some freak on the field injury, but rather from a complete lapse in judgement and utter stupidity off the field, in a situation that you had nothing to do with nor could you control. I mean, the guy's a 23 year old senior, a grown ass man by all accounts, you can't be expected to hold his hand and baby sit him right? He was an individual who made an individual choice that has affected a much larger group, yourself included. The stupidity of a 23 year old could very well cost you your job, and after 6 years of countless hours of work, film, shaking hands, recruiting, road trips, 20 hour days, and neglect of your family for the sake of this University's football team, that sucks, it really does. You went into a game in which you were probably outmatched talent-wise against a Big 10 opponent, but because it was the first big game at Infocision stadium and the first "name" opponent in Akron in a long time, you were expected to lead your team out there, a team that had lost it's on the field leader only hours earlier, and secure a W. That didn't happen, and now many of the team's most loyal supporters are acting as if the sky is falling and they want your head. While your goal every year is to win a conference title, and you haven't even had a chance to compete for that goal this year yet, many are acting as if your season is already over. You try to insulate your players from the negativity, but they read message boards and the paper too. Every practice as you coach your ass off and try to find the right words to inspire your team to keep giving everything they've got, you know in the back of your mind, that in the back of their minds, they're wondering if this guy yelling at them is even going to be here in a few weeks. And after all you've given, all you've sacrificed, all you've worked so hard for, it sucks to know you're losing the respect of your players more and more with each day that passes. It really does suck.Few people who post on a message board knows what all goes into coaching college football. They don't understand the long hours, they don't understand the strain on your family and personal life (not to mention your sanity), and they don't understand what it's like to work your ass off for something only to be judged for your every move and mistake by those completley outside of and ignorant of your profession. And you're expected to take it with a smile and "yeah, you're right Mr. Casual Fan, we'll do better next time" and it sucks. It really sucks.But really, when it comes down to it, it's not the Negative Nancy's such as myself and many others on the Zipsnation.org that are going to determine whether you rise from the ashes or fall to complete disgrace this season. At this point, the only person who can help you is well.... you. Despite what some may say about your coaching abilities, no one who truly knows your story doubts that you are hard worker, nor that you have absolutely busted your balls to get to where you are today. You're a man of passion who has chased his dreams to do what he loves, leaving a six figure career in the business world to sleep outside the Denver Broncos practice facility with the hope that they might let you come in and volunteer your time for a few hours. You worked your way up in the coaching world by the sweat of your brow, and became one of the top assistant coaches in college football, earning the respect and gratitude of some of the top players in the world, such as Antonio Bryant and Larry Fitzgerald, the top WR in all of football. You then you fulfilled the dream of countless coaches across America: you became a head coach at a D-1A school. Granted, it wasn't USC that came calling, in fact it was a school with some of the worst facilities in all of college football, and was considered by many in the profession to be a "grave-yard" of coaching. You walked into a situation where many of the top supporters of the football program, myself included, thought the last coach had been wrongfully terminated, and were still in his corner. You walked into a situation where you had to convince the team's starting QB to stay for his senior year, because he was also loyal to your predecessor, and didn't want to finish his career playing for you. You knew that you would have to come in and weed out a lot of bad apples, and for that you would be hated by many of your players But despite all of that, you trusted your gut, and trusted what had got you to where you were... your ability to work your way to the top of any situation by your own ambition. You'd been into tough situations before and always prevailed. Here you were, JD Brookhart, ready to become the savior of Akron football!!! There'd be a statue of you right next to John Buchtel one day....And then reality hit. Your first outing as a head coach was a 40 point drubbing at the hands of a very bad Big 10 team. You followed that up with a loss to a Sun Belt team in your home opener, and then stood at the helm of one of the ugliest beatdowns in the history of college football, a 51-0 loss to a Virginia team that included multiple future NFL starters such as Heath Miller and Chris Canty. After a start like that, many lesser people would've thought "what the hell have I gotten myself into?" and started quietly calling around for NFL assistant jobs that might become available, so they could slip out of town at season's end and leave the whole mess behind. Not you though!!! If 20 hour days weren't working, you'd put in 24, and slowly but surely your first team came together and was one quarter of football away from becoming the first MAC East champ and bowl participant the University had ever seen in its 1-A history. The come from behind, we'll never die win over Marshall in 2004 was a game the 3000 or so of us who stayed till the end will never forget for the rest of our lives. And then the next season, you did it... you won the MAC Championship and took us to a bowl game, a glorious culmination to years of frustration for many of us who had suffered through every game of Akron football for our entire lives. You had arrived! Football was hot in Akron (FEAR THE ROO!!!), a new stadium was on the way, and top recruiting classes were pouring in. You'd done it again, your hard work had taken you right where you wanted to be. Isn't it funny how right when things seem to be going right, all of a sudden they can go so wrong?With the highest of expectations going into 2006, coming off a championship and with so many key starters including a 3,500 yard QB coming back, your team flopped. I mean, they absolutely sucked. You started off hot, competing mightily with a great Penn State team, and then knocking off our school's first BCS opponent in a game that will not soon be forgotten on a hot September Saturday. But from there your team just didn't have it. And neither did you. Maybe the success went to your head. Maybe it was all the shortcuts you decided to take, and the gambles on those "top" recrutiing classes that never found their way to the field. Maybe it was your assistants fault. But for whatever the reason, since that NC State win on that Saturday afternoon in 2006, you just haven't gotten it done. And now 6 years of your life and your hard work is all gonna be judged in the next 3-4 weeks. So what are you gonna do?Go back to the basics. Go back to what got you here. Go back to the JD Brookhart who arrived on campus determined to make Akron football into something that the community could be proud of. Go back to the JD Brookhart who doesn't believe in making excuses or pointing fingers at anyone, but rather in taking responsibility for what you as an indvidual can do and doing it with everything you have. Don't sail off into the sunset saying "Oh well I tried"... hunker down, buckle up, and go out with everything you have. Despite all of the calls for your head from people like myself who haven't been there for the 80 hour weeks over the past 6 years, you can still save this thing, you can still right this ship. I don't know how you can, and you probably don't either, but all you can do is work your ASS off and inspire those around you to do the same. I think you're finished, and so does about 99% of everyone else who follows this program. So go out and do what you've done for your entire life....from going from a no name walk-on at Colarado State to its top reciever... from begging for crumbs at the table of coaches to being one of the top assistant coaches in all of America.... from getting drubbed in your first game as head coach, to almost winning a conference championship in your first season as one... PROVE ALL THE NAYSAYERS WRONG. I know you can't do it, I really have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that at the end of this season, your ass is grass. But I'll be cheering for you and your boys with everything I have for the rest of the way to prove to me how wrong I really am. Good luck Coach, with all that you've given of yourself to this University, you deserve some, and I'm rootin for you.Sincerely,ITZ

I have no idea what Jac actually did to get the boot, but its not exactly a secret that he's always been a guy who likes to blaze it up, and I'm not talking about with his arm on the football field. I wouldn't be surprised if that played a role, directly or indirectly. Any guy who is given a leadership role on a D-1 college football team and continues in a habit like that is a worthless POS in my opinion.

If we slip to 1-4 or 1-5, the writing's pretty much gonna be on the wall anyways. Why not give Walt Harris a chance to run the show the last half of the season?? I know some of you might say what's the difference between a head coach and an assistant coach on a team thats playing so poorly, they're both responsible, but let's remember that KD was also an assistant here on a bad team. I say give Walt a shot to see if he can run the show and get these kids playing winning football, because JD has never shown that he can.

Bottom line, whether any of us want to admit it or not... The MAIN reason there were only 18,000 butts in the seats yesterday?? OUR GAME OVERLAPPED WITH OSU. I don't really care if you want to say this is a small time mentality, because at the moment, guess what, we are small time. From now on, when we're setting the time for games, we need to wait until OSU sets their's and then set ours FAR FAR away from that time. Why'd we sell out last week? Because OSU played at night. If we would've played at night this week, we would've seen 7,000 more people at the game and you can put your hard earned money on that fact. If you want to take some time and go through attendance figures over the past 20 years, regardless of how the team was doing, our best attended games have been at times when OSU wasn't playing. Our worst attendances have always been when we tried to overlap the big boys.Poor planning by the athletic department, and even poorer play on the field.

Lynch's son, Joey Lynch, was the starting QB at Ball State preceeding Nate Davis. He was actually the QB who beat us in Muncie during our MAC Championship year of '05. I'm sure Lynch has seen his fair share of MAC football.

From what I've heard, IU isn't close to a sell out yet. I'll be disheartened to say the least if I see 5-7,000 empty seats on gameday in only our second game in the stadium against a Big 10 opponent.

My question is, for the student ticket policy they say you have to show a Zip card but no "student" who is not currently enrolled in class is eligible for tickets. But if they aren't scanning the Zip Cards, how will they ensure that actual students are going to games and not just somebody that might've taken a summer class at the University one year and still has a Zip Card?

I know some are disagreeing, but I would agree with this. A lot can change in a year. As good as a high school senior may be, that person still has to improve his game in order to get on the field for a D-1A team. Maybe there are some who came in with lesser recognition, but have improved beyond him. Competition is a good thing for the program.Playing time is earned. Maybe he isn't following instruction well at this level. It starts with talent, but there is a lot more to it. We'll all find out soon enough.Exactly. Anyone who has ever actually PLAYED college football has seen "big name recruits" come in and end up being nowhere close to what all the people on the message boards thought they were going to be. I hope this isn't the case with DeVoe, but given the fact that he's in his second year and probably not even on the depth chart, that's what it looks like to me. I can think of tons of guys who I played with that came in as hyped big time recruits and looked the part, and when we got on the practice field they just didn't have what it took for the college game either in terms of playing style or the ability to grasp and effectively execute a college scheme. Attitude and insubordination could also be a huge issue.

You're right, that was probably the worst guess in the history of guesses.Last year he red-shirted. They probably made a decision prior to the game on who was playing, hell he could have rolled his ankle or had the flu. Chances are he's a red shirt freshman that hasn't quite gotten the steps down (something JD has mentioned) so he is fourth on the depth chart. Also chances are we have so much depth at RB that we need not worry about when a RS Freshman get's into the game. His time will come and he's not going anywhere.You basically just re-stated exactly what I said. He's not good enough to be playing right now ahead of the guys that are.