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OR The people that take ONE SINGLE sentence from an article to characterize Dr. Scarborough as someone who is a poor leader, doesn't support athletics, doesn't have a plan and is out to destroy UA athletics (when all he did was speak the obvious)The people that ignore Akron's football attendance in….FOREVER and say at 30K seat/$60M stadium is justifiedThe people that ignore the embarrassing article showing us as having the worst attendance in the NCAAThe people that ignore Akron's winning basketball team's attendance in FOREVER and say the community would support a new basketball arenaThe people that blame poor attendance on weekday games, iCoach, poor opponents, OSU conflicts, old stadiums, bad weather, not winning in post season, too many logos, etc.
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All 5,400 of them
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You all are taking a SINGLE statement "I would not have built THAT stadium" and characterizing Dr. Scarborough as someone who leads from behind. The fact is he is right about not building "that" stadium, by stating it doesn't mean he is not dealing with it (or leading). The fact is he made the one substantial change everyone has been crying about for years in the athletic department - getting rid of TW. The fact is he is taking the lead with rebranding, program changes, curriculum changes to try and deal with the changing times Seems to me he IS someone who is taking his current situation and innovating and building something that will work. The previous administration built shiny new buildings/stadiums and racked up a ton of debt during brutal economic times.
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Yea, sorry to sprinkle logic into the mix. I have a new image for you Captain (and a new suggested name) - please tell me again how much you like TW…..please tell me again how he is the one who single handedly devastated Zip Athletics……. Captain Obvious
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Thanks Lee… I ran out of my "likes" for the day.
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Based on these numbers; Average attendance - 13,266 11 games under 10,000 at a game 24 games under the NCAA 15,000 Last game played at Infocision 5,400 people With those numbers (knowing there were not even that many people in the stadium) My conclusion………I would not have built THAT stadium.
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We ended the 2014 season winning 4 out of the last 5 games to include a win over Can't State. Did that get anybody excited? We opened up 2015 with a win over Howard (attendance 9,100)….I guess not. We then went to play at Penn State in front of 97,000 people and put up a respectable fight losing 21-3. Did that get people excited? Nope, because we came home to play Marshall in front of 13,000 (made up of primarily Marshall fans). We then went to Pitt and beat them in front of 40,000 fans……did that get people excited? Lets see, we played (and beat) Eastern Michigan at home in front of 8,400 people…..I guess not ____________________________________________ At this point we are 7-2 in the last 9 games with the losses coming to Penn State and Marshall. ____________________________________________ Time to come home………..what happens….. A win against Miami O in front of 8,200 people. What is embarrassing is not the single sentence Dr. Scarborough made about not building "THAT" stadium it is the fact that we have the worst attendance and fans in all of college football no matter how nice of a stadium we have or what day the game is played.
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I had never seen this. Very well done tour…campus looks great….one of the nicest online campus tours I have seen. Well done.. http://www.uakron.edu/tour/
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Ha, today is his 1 year anniversary as UA's President.
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Well, I guess the good news is there are apparently not a lot of fans to read into his comments :-P . http://www.ohio.com/news/local/university-of-akron-football-attendance-lowest-in-nation-1.603992 Isn't he focusing on solutions for the future already? Seriously, he got rid of the biggest cancer in the athletic department right? He is also making lot of other strategic moves for the school's future. One sentence taken out of context and everyone is up in arms. Geez
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First of all he did not say "I wouldn't have done this thing" He said "I would not have built that stadium". Please don't misquote because there is a big difference between what you just inserted Zach and what was actually quoted. At this point we don't know what he said before that sentence and after it, once again everyone is getting fired up about a single sentence. He did not say he would NOT have built a new stadium. He did not say he doesn't support athletics. I think it is safe to assume he is saying he would not have spent $60 million dollars on the 30,000 seat Info. I'll go out on a limb and say I bet he is thinking a $30 million dollar 20,000 seat stadium with room for expansion would have been the smart thing to do. Again, I bet he is also thinking "I would have canned TW years ago".
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Benefit? That the university is in the hands of a person who is financially responsible and makes sound responsible decisions.
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Personally I don't see his comment as deflecting blame. I think he is making a statement based on the numbers he is looking at…….folks, he is not wrong!! Maybe deep down he is thinking to himself "I would have fired TW a long time ago"……I wouldn't expect him to say that publicly. $60 million dollar stadium + lowest attendance in the USA = I wouldn't have built that stadium either. Even without hindsight…..in our history where are there attendance numbers that would justify a $60 million stadium. EVER. I am purely speculating here but my gut tells me the UA is in a financial mess (possibly worse than we know). As with a CEO of any company….if you are financially stressed, you cut programs that are not profitable, you focus on the things you are best at and you get rid of people that are not producing results. I think that is what we are seeing. Once again, I think people are getting wrapped around the wheel over a single statement without knowing the context of how it was delivered. I am not understanding why Dr. Scarborough is taking the criticism when it was Dr. Proenza that hired and didn't fire TW and created all this debt. Lets face it folks, our football teams future rests squarely on Terry Bowden. I would say if he cannot turn this around, nobody can……if that is the case I would say our football program could be doomed.
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Hopefully the demands that were set to use the Info came from the previous administration. The acoustics have to be amazing for a concert. It would be foolish to not try and get some good shows in there and would get people used to coming in. Pearl Jam loves places like the Info ;-)
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Part of the "shit sandwich" Proenza turned over included TW. I wouldn't expect TW to publicly call himself out in public (c'mon man)….If the AD created the holocaust, why didn't Proenza fire him?! Dr. Scarborough did and it appears he has a big mess to clean up. My opinion is that Dr. Scarborough's comment about not building "that" stadium has more to do with the size and cost of it. Yes he has the advantage of hindsight but I for one would love to have seen the market studies that justified it all to begin with. Maybe he has seen those, who knows. There were comments about the previous administration being somewhat of a dictatorship. The "Landscape for Learning" and the "Info" sure are nice to look at but if nobody lives in the dorms and nobody goes to the games - that is bad business. Seems like Proenza was pulling a little smoke and mirror job. The Info IS a GIANT sixty five million dollar 30,000 seat luxury box turd if nobody goes to it and you can't pay for it.
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ABSOFRICKENLUTELY!!!!!
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This is what I have been saying all along. I hope I am wrong but unless something changes dramatically, there will be a big rotting stadium in the middle of our beautiful campus. None of this bodes well for a new basketball arena either. It is mind boggling to me with the population surrounding that we can't get more people to go to games (and please spare me the losing seasons talk) My response to that will be the same which is our basketball team IS a winner and does not draw either. When I read about the money people pay to go to an OSU game….rain, shine, snow, shitty opponent, monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday…any freaking day and at any hour it makes my head hurt. I am not talking about a sellout folks, I am talking about averaging the 15K required. It is pitiful. From a "business" standpoint Dr. S comments are right on point and responsible. There was nothing to show that the community would support the Info and I don't see anything to justify a new basketball arena. I liked Dr. Proenza but it sure looks like he left a shit sandwich for Dr. Scarborough.
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Was Tree eligible for the draft?
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No thoughts or opinions on these (realizing most are untouchable for us)….simply links to candidates other schools are looking at http://www.charlestondailymail.com/article/20141217/DM03/141219299 http://www.nunesmagician.com/2015/3/18/8252165/searching-for-doctor-grosss-replacement-whos-next-syracuse-athletic-director-orange-daryl http://m.apsu.edu/apsu-names-top-five-candidates-athletics-director-position http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2015/1/28/7931591/california-golden-bears-mike-williams-kevin-anderson-tom-bowen-todd-stansbury http://www.dailyegyptian.com/sports/article_dedf34c6-ed2c-11e4-8f44-a7f54fdc5ee7.html http://www.chron.com/sports/cougars/article/University-of-Houston-narrows-AD-search-down-to-6212560.php
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The beginning of the (what did you call it Capt) holocaust?
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Understood. I just don't think having a person in the interim/temporary position is a good idea right now....not for 3 years at least . My HOPE is they have someone targeted already.
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How can you call the football team unimportant? The fact that so much has been invested in it and it is being led by TWO former BCS coaches - Bowden and Amato makes it VERY important. We've had to endure the holocaust and are on the up!!! The soccer program is consistently in the top 20, perennial MAC conference champion, plays an amazing schedule, beats Big 10 opponents and produces MLS draft picks every year (not to mention USA men's national players). Keep in mind it is very difficult to maintain a national championship team when your underclassmen are getting drafted or picked up by homegrown contracts. My boys and I have put together what some of our previous soccer teams would have looked like if the players had stayed all 4 years. Holy s*!t would they have been good. The basketball team is as exciting as ever with some great young talent. Coach has 9 seasons in a row with 20 wins. We've had some bad luck with injuries, suspensions, arrests just like the Cavs are experiencing. Bottom line, we are in great hands with KD. Somebody has got to figure out a way to appeal to Lebron. Seriously, he has got the coin to build King James Arena. Most subsidized athletic departments. Not sure I am seeing that….I would like to say we are not even in the top 100, but we are #100.Sort by % subsidy http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances BTW - our women's basketball is on the rise, our track team is doing great…. Sorry Morris, but if we do not get a top replacement as AD….that would be a disaster. How could we put an interim AD in the middle of this?!?! We are at a critical time with our athletic department. I would have to say that is why this change has been made. I am praying for a dynamic replacement (even if they are only here for a couple of years).
