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Take another look, the field logos are where they need to be now. Though for the life of me I don't know why they didn't just use the Infocision Summa Field logo they already had for it. It is much better looking

The only person who is a liar on this site is you. You lie when you say I'm against UA expanding. And you lie when you say Canal Park and downtown are on campus. You also lie when you say that I only consider my opinion. If you read my posts instead of lie about them you would know you are wrong. You lie when you say that no one will come to a UA campus concert and that there is no more room for building an arena on campus. You lie when you purposely ignore the fact that UA is expanding south of East Exchange even after I pointed that fact out originally. Let me make this clearer. YOU ARE A BIG FAT TROLLISH LIAR!Thanks for proving my point. If anyone else needs me I will be working for Miss Cleo.

I'm curious where you are pulling statistics from. From what I can find the 2008 attendance was 14342. the worst game was Ball St with 9014 mostly because of a very heavy rainstorm. 2007 the attendance was 16355, but the Cleveland Browns Stadium game against Army can hardly be counted as "home attendance" so for 4 games the average attendance was 15977. Hardly the drop offs you are showing.

Exactly, the University is a driving factor for the city and the city is a driving factor for the University. It's foolish to think the two are seperate entities. People who treat them as such are stuck in an era that is completely backward thinking.Hell within the next 5-10 years we are going to have a distance learning center in Barberton and improvements to the Holmes County Campus are being shaped up. My original proposal for the arena was diagonally from The Info (getting rid of the plasma center). However that appears extremely unlikely. But again, expansion happens on the borders. As far I'm concerned I want to see the campus stretch from Thornton to Market and Rt 8 to Main. Obviously with certain exceptions for existing established and respectable properties but overall that is the acreage I see the campus eventually utilizing. Also I am one who believes that the cost burden for something that benefits everyone should not be taken on by a single entity. The Arena will benefit everyone, and should have all parties (University, City, and County) footing the bill. Ultimately it should be University ran ala EJ Thomas but it should be for the entire community and located as such. Somewhere on the campus border that invites people to experience The University of Akron and the culture of the City of Akron.

Jake, your Ohio.com colors are showing. Sorry, but a few on this site are just as dishonest and trollish as those on Ohio.com. Like popeye, I yam what I yam. I have no intention of changing or adapting."It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - AristotleJake, since are you claiming about dishonesty and trollishness I figured it important to point some things out. All you have done since being on here is contradict what people say by calling them a liar. You have yet to entertain anyone's idea but your own.Most of us have had this conversation for years. The truth is that the University is growing to the west. We have Polsky, a parking deck, a parking lot, CBA, and the dumpy building next to it, and Quaker. By denying the fact that we are expanding our borders to Main St. you deny anything that the school has done in the last 20 years. You seem to be greatly against expansion. If like minded people had existed in the 60's we wouldn't have buildings on the other side of Exchange. In order for the school to get bigger and better it has to expand. To deny the school's true boundaries (not the shaded map, or you own imaginary perimeter) is to hold the school back. You proposed a lot of similar size to what the JAR sits on now. That is an interesting concept, but parking on campus is at a true premium. With increased residential students parking will be at an even higher premium. Both lots you have mentioned are under consideration for parking decks due to the 400-800 new students who will be living in the Stadium Megaplex. But again, I can only anticipate you calling me a liar and a troll because my opinion differs from your own. So Bilbo, continue having fun using the word conspicuous and screaming that an arena in the middle of all the beautiful green space that is being created is the only way we will ever have a good program and move on. You disregard so many other examples to the contrary it is amazing.

If you suggest Burke for what he accomplished than please tell me what he accomplished. From what I can find he has accomplished a very comfortable 13 yr job with Northwestern State University in Louisiana. Where his brilliant idea for increasing ticket sales is a money back guarantee. And there most recent large crowd was 2004 with a respectable 14,000?To me, 13 years at one school screems lack of ambition. Or simply the Peter Principle. He has risen to the level of his incompetence. Again, I could be overly harsh, but when I'm looking for someone to continue building a program I am not going to look for anyone with ties to an era of athletic ineptitude.

Just so you know, open enrollment is part of the reason we get to do what we get to do. If we were say, Miami selective, we'd be an FCS school with 9000 students right now. What we need to do is increase enrollment on campus to the point where we have 28,000 and 10 - 15000 living on campus. At that point we can begin being selective with the incoming freshmen. (by the selectivity isn't all it's cracked up to be, Can't has a graduation rate of 50% and those are supposed to be the kids from the area that are "good")Secondly, every school in the state (that has branch campuses) is "open enrollment" it's just the main campus get's to be selective because of size limitations.Now back to your question, community interest may swell, but only if we made a significant jump. Meaning to a BCS conference. Moving to C-USA would be as bad or worse as being in the MAC. Northeast Ohio could care less about UTEP, Tulsa, Middle Tennessee, or UCF.

Hmm let's see, Wolstein Center is in between Prospect and Carnegie, just like the Q and Progressive Field. Where? Right by the entertainment district. Severence Hall is smack in the middle of University Circle, near a major cultural center. There are major things to do around those areas. The purpose of me mentioning about concerts wasn't that people wouldn't go. It's that bands and shows wouldn't come. You mention a lot of interesting bands but when was the last time a major show played a campus facility? Why? Because it's a hard sell because promoters know that people like to make an evening of things. That's why the exit for Blossom has blown up so much.I see what your problem here is Jake, you lack spatial reasoning. Some how you don't realize that campus extends from Rt 8. To Main St. and is between Mill and Exchange. There is no practical area on campus for more athletic buildings. Most of the land we still own is designated for residence halls and academic facilities. Most Universities that have done the "downtown arena" are miles from downtown. We abut downtown and in fact are downtown. Really strong programs like Louisville and Memphis make it work miles away. The reason the Rubber Bowl was a failure is because the team wasn't winning, it was not fan friendly, and is falling apart. You factor those things in, distance becomes an excuse. Hell the JAR is right in the middle of campus and students don't go (no offense Rowdies you know which students I am talking about). If the athletic department is going to boost Basketball attendance they are going to have to either A. win all the time and bring in real competition or B. make the program and facilities catered toward the average fan, the one that pays money and helps the program sustain itself. Look at the decisions behind The Info. Did they just make a bowl with 30,000 seats? No, they listened to the average fans on why they did not like the Rubber Bowl and they listened to the large benefactors of the school. The consensus was that there was a need for a facility designed to appease the alumni, donors, and Joe Akron. The on campus site that was chosen was because we owned 90% of the property needed. They looked at other sites around campus first. One of the major ones was the student services building. Cost and visibility were the main factors on the location selection.On Rt 8 is no different than on Main St for trafic. You have 59 a minute away and very easy access to Parking. Not to mention Main, High, and Broad are designed for quick in flows and out flows of traffic. The Rt. 8 exit is barely adequate. Look at what the state is doing with signage for The Info. They want you take 77 North coming from the south.

I think any talk of just moving Hunter up, or getting some "homer" is a complete disservice to our athletic department. Let's see what's out there, let's see who's interested and let the best, brightest, and most visionary person have the job. (if that is Hunter, or Waddell or Burke so be it)

OK, here is my ideal choice for a truly on-campus UA arena: North of East ExchangeSouth of VineEast of SpicerWest of and butting up against Rout 8 I think this is plausable without taking any fraternity and sorority houses, even though some of them on Spicer need to be raised (see the movie "Deliverance") or the soon-to-be SkyWay Restaurant. If UA needs to go further North, then make a deal with the individual Greek organizations. And if leaving SkyWay where it currently plans to be is a problem, make a deal there too. Also, being right next to Route 8 and its exit ramp will make the arena convenient for all of NE, Ohio beyond compare. And for those who want a "downtown arena" too, keep in mind that the mayor's office, the ABJ, The West Side Leader and many politicians like to claim that UA is downtown. County Executive, Russ Pry told me one day at lunch, and I quote, "The new stadium is a plum for downtown." and the ABJ reported, Akron Deputy Mayor for Administration David Lieberth said the Skyway ''will be a great addition to downtown.''win/win - badda bing badda boom!Yeah, sorry, bad idea on your spot. The University is part of downtown. However; and Arena, wheter a joint effort (which you are clearly against) or run solely by the University needs to be in an area where it can be used for multiple things. You seem to be of the mind of just a new arena. That means the JAR would stay. That means the new Arena would not be used for volleyball. So the only use the Arena would get is basketball. That is not a very good way to pay of an investment. If you place the arena closer to the downtown entertainment district, then concerts and other things will work. The two prime locations are near Canal Park (which is part of campus, if you think that is too far for students to walk, than must think that it's too far for students to walk from Grant St to the Polymer Research center of Simmons.) The second of the two is as close as possible to the John S. Knight center and "historic" district.

Officially 3 All-Americans now. Carrie took 6th place in the pole vault finals. That had us in 12th after 13 events.

Keep in mind Fear the Roo was essentially taken from The University of Maryland's "Fear the Turtle".........lets not get carried away.And as legend has it Fear the Roo was making the rounds on Zipsnation and some NCAA Football forums well before the University started to use it. I know my brother was using it as early as 2003.

Congrats Stevi. Also best of luck Carrie Kayes who was tied for 1st during the prelim. Trying to find results because the final were starting at 8:30

HAHAHA you're right. These UH fans are condoning sodomy everytime they stick up this little hand gesture. How awesome.Well technically the thumb placement is all wrong. You have to keep a finger on the button so to speak. But don't ask me, ask Shasta...Never did I think I would get two chances to use the same gag.

How about.........neither? Better yet, let's have a huge search for the position and see who is out there. We might be surprised.Would taking Waddell be a step back? I should watch what I say, my last comment signaled a PM from UAM that I have yet to read.... Should I read it or just throw it directly into the trash like all the other PMs I get on this board? Anyhow, back to the question. The answer is probably, YES. New blood brings in new ideas. I have never liked UofA's athletics marketing and I'd really like to have someone come in here and show an ability to execute a plan other than what they learned at some athletics marketing seminar. I really want a guy who is out in the public A LOT. I think that is important. Mack seemed to be a good enough administrator, but I don't remember seeing him or reading about him a lot out in public. Like I said, do a national search and if (God help us, they are nice enough guys) Waddell and Hunter are the best, so be it.GP1 you make a lot of sense. And knowing Proenza a national hunt will be the route we take. I've had exchanges with Hunter, he is a nice guy, and cares a lot about what's going on, I also think he has the hunger. But we do ourselves an injustice by just promoting him. Test him, test everyone, let's see who has the best ideas and more importantly has had the best execution.GM had great plans, their execution however stunk. We need a doer, more now than ever before. We have momentum, we have athletes across all sports capable of great things (Congrats Stevi) and we need someone that get us over the hump.So many on here are Waddell fans, but we passed on him initially (Proenza decision) and several FCS and smaller schools have passed on him. That is not the direction we need to go right now. We have several major projects, soccer stadium, decision on what direction to go with basketball, our rifle team could sure use an upgrade, the JAR needs renovation (I thought I was going to get trapped in the elevator when I went for my seat selection), our tennis team has to go out to Stow for practice and the baseball field could use a coat of paint and some sprucing up as well. Not to mention doing whatever it takes to keep Dambrot and Porter around.Waddell was in charge of the same things that Yurachek was, and we didn't take a big hit, in fact most things improved since then (outside of stinking basketball attendance)

You must be sitting in one of those areas.I think it is ridiculous that it would be served in some areas (for those with more $$$), but not in others. All or nothing.Yes as Minnesota governor Pawlenty said "it reeks of elitism"I say "Let them have hops!"

Yurachek has extreme interest in the positionOhio.com

Internet search I believe.

LOL awesome.

How much of that glass work was functional and could open completely? The glass work they are doing is a bit more complicated than slapping in a window and some caulk. When July 22nd comes and they aren't doing finishing touches to the upper deck, then you can't start wondering if they should be working some overtime or not. Until then "Relax guy"

YES, the answer is YES. Be still my heart.While it is white, what is the rest of the color of it? It doesn't match the green?(I accept your sarcasm) Well G-mann, it is blue. Looks like a blue border from the 25 all the way down around the endzone. Which is better than just green everywhere.

Looks to me like they were going for the easy Longhorn fan conversion. "Now our hand gesture is just like the hook'em; but not as big of a rip off of the surfer dude"Is that a prerequisite for a Texas collegiate program, you have to have a hand gesture?Yes. George W Bush mandated it as Texas Governor several years ago. Makes sense now. I also found out that their mascot is also a female.I think her name is Shasta

Looks to me like they were going for the easy Longhorn fan conversion. "Now our hand gesture is just like the hook'em; but not as big of a rip off of the surfer dude"Is that a prerequisite for a Texas collegiate program, you have to have a hand gesture?

We whooped their women's basketball LAST year. And the only soccer team in town is Brian Ching's Dynamo. I had forgtten about the women's victory last year, and who would figure that neither Rice nor UH would have men's soccer programs? Thanks for the information.I was looking at the UH athletic site and they have a picture of Mack and his wife giving some sort of three fingered gesture that I presume is a Cougar tradition. It looks like a combination of "Hook 'em Horns" and the middle finger. Seeing as how much UT and the other "old school" Southwestern Conference teams used to look down upon UH, perhaps it is A quick wikipedia search said it was the Cougar Paw.Yeah doesn't look like any cougar paw I've ever seen

I thought Mack was a quality person and had a great set of concepts that hopefully the athletic department sticks with and builds on.Ponder this for a moment, we complain about stability and lot of us think we need the same leader to get there, but how many times did they change leaders in our country, or how many managers do you think the pyramids had.