Dr Z

For me, the difference between the two boils down to this.The more I watch Nate, the more I like him, the more I watched Tarver the less I liked him. Hopefully that statement will still be true in a few years.

Both HAVE made postseason play.I guess technically you are correct, but IMHO, NIT is like kissing your sister, it's a step, but not the dance. Win the MAC and get a real bid. Then you will see the fans like we did in the Zips bowl game.

What coach has won the MAC? What coach has not?What coach has made it to post season play? What coach has not?What coach has won against a big time school? What coach has not?You can like and or dislike a coach for many different reasons, but what it boils down to is results.PS I hope the above statements change come March 07.

It never ceases to amaze me how many threads with good information get hijacked on this board.

Read the article. That is not my list. The article is from 2005.Point being, it is not easy picking the next "Urban Myer"I guess I assumed people would read the article and notice the date, my bad.

Who is the next Urban Myer?1. Dan Hawkins – Boise State2. Pat Hill – Fresno State3. Mike Price – UTEP4. Paul Johnson – Navy5. Joe Glenn – Wyoming6. Tom Amstutz – Toledo7. Jim Grobe – Wake Forest8. Gregg Brandon – Bowling Green9. Darryl Dickey – North Texas10. Gary Patterson – TCUDid anybody see Columbus St band on the Monday halftime show?

Nice article on the former head coach of a MAC team.

Congratulations to Urban. Well deserved.

Game?

Nate could use the guy that has the longest TD run in SB history as his motivation.He didn't start in college either. Good luck to you Nate.

Fire JD. Hire Cowher. He was rumored to go to NC State and we beat them!?!We could get his girls to transfer to the womens basketball team. He won't miss a game.Think of Bill's recruiting potential. Then I bet we could fill the rubber bowl.

Pink suit reference (click here)

ESPN player profile (click here)Rivals 4 Star in 2004 (click here)Impresses Coker in spring (click here)Must be some truth according to Pittsburgh Sports Insider (click here)

Good point. I'll make one obscure exception, Jawanza Moore. I thought he progressed more in his senior year than anyone I have watched at Akron.Although he wasn't the type of player that could carry a team.Staying on topic, I don't think I have seen enough games to award a grade to this team.

I like him a lot. I hope he stays, which I think he will.Make the MAC as strong as possible. I love to see the "MAC daddy" stats on Sunday.

No, if that were true, the university would crow about that, if they didn't, someone would have "leaked" that.To say JD "would have been" offered the job is only SPECULATION. Don't read too much into it.

I thought Cowher was going there

I asked Mack that exact question, simple answer is cost.

I thought it was going to be called 'Sun Bar & Grill Stadium'I read it in Playboy.

Booooommmmbbbbbs Aaaawwwaaayyyy !!!!!!

I would guess any real MAC fan would be rooting for Urban Myers.Pretend MAC fans won't.News update: The Zips beating OSU is huge if they are #1, #10 or #50.

Thanks for posting Zipboy, I never get a chance to listen to ZipsLive. Good info.I'm real interested to see how our offensive line plays out in the spring.Could Columbus St fans STOP hijacking EVERY thread !?!?

How hard is it to put a few billboards up around town Put, lets say, 5 minutes into doing the layout. It lays itself out.

Central 31OU 21I hope every fan has as much fun in Detroit as I did last year. ESPN's game preview

Deal.--------------------------That would suggest that Thomas might want to look for an offensive-minded coach to take over the program with an eye toward increasing fan support, but the UC athletic director said that's not necessarily the case."I enjoy points being scored in a football game," Thomas said. "There's no doubt about it. You also hear the old cliché that defense wins championships, so at the end of the day it's trying to get the best coach that we can get."At this point, I'm not weighing heavily toward offense or defense. You want to get people excited about your program. You want to feel like your program has some energy. Sometimes one of the ways to make that happen is if you're putting some points on the board."If offense is what Thomas decides he wants, LSU offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher is still out there. Fisher was one of the coaches Goin went after in 2003. He was UC's offensive coordinator in 1999 under Rick Minter.Other names UC might consider include Brian Kelly, the head coach at Central Michigan. His team is 8-4 this year and will play in the Mid-American Conference championship game Thursday night.Kelly won two NCAA Division II national titles at Grand Valley State and was 118-35-2 in 13 seasons there. He was one of the finalists for the Michigan State job that Dantonio landed.LSU defensive coordinator Bo Pelini, a Youngstown native and former Ohio State player who also interviewed for the Michigan State job, and Cleveland Browns defensive backs coach Mel Tucker, who spent four seasons coaching under Jim Tressel at Ohio State, are also possibilities for the Bearcats.Source------------------The Cincinnati Post and Enquirer said possible candidates include Bearcats coordinators Pat Narduzzi and Don Treadwell, Baltimore Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan, Ohio coach Frank Solich and Toledo coach Tom Amstutz.Tomlin, the Bearcats' defensive backs coach in 1999 and 2000, wasn't mentioned. But he likely wouldn't be interested. He indicated earlier in the season that his preference is to remain in the NFL."I would never say never," Tomlin told the Pioneer Press in August. "But I enjoy what Sunday brings, competing at the highest level. It's awesome. I'm a high sensation seeker, and it gets no better than what we do."Source