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Momma, on the one hand I agree that we are all speculating about what happened. It's a board forum, wherein people do that. On the other hand yours is the second post that infers that the new AD is up to no good, setting up an honorable coach in order to not only get rid of him but to supply the excuse for getting rid of the staff later on. I would suggest that you are speculating just as much on that point, and I would also argue that based on the Zips' performance on the field so far, the AD needs absolutely no "other" justification to let the entire staff go at the end of the season, beyond the simple fact that after 5+ years of JD and Co, the team is a disaster on the playing field. Why would Wistrcill need any more than that to remove any of the coaches at this point?STZFans sometimes think firing a coach is like firing a regular employee where it takes months of back-up paperwork to fire them. Inreality, there are "outs" in the coaches contracts that are exercised when they are terminated. They can be fired at any time for any reason.I'd also like to clarify that my brilliant question raised on this thread. It's not that the new AD is up to no good, it may be that he is an overreacter. If that is the case, I worry about the guy being the AD. If this indeed turns out to be nothing, the new AD has made a huge mistake with Reno. Will his next big exective decision be to suspend KD for throwing an empty diet soda can in the trash instead of the recycling bin? Let's keep an eye on this guy. Something smells funny and it may be nothing, but let's be careful.I would agree entirely if the team/players had been executing on the field. On paper it surely appears that UA is recruiting increasingly talented players, but we aren't seeing any dividend for such on the field. Are they more talented? Is it all on the coaching? Didn't Ferri also coach the running backs? Please don't misunderstand my points. Any one of us could become victimized at work, in life, etc. If Ferri has been unfairly victimized in this situation then shame on the AD. I would assume that it will be tough for Ferri to stay in coaching after this, and that is truly sad for him. My problem is that this team has become such a mess that we don't know the extent of the problems at this point. Is it in the coaching? Are the right players being recruited? Are there other currents and undercurrents that are badly dysfunctional? The only thing most fans can really judge is the play on the field, and this year this is among the very worst teams in the entire country. STZYou're IMHO out of your mind if you truly believe "among the very worst teams in the entire country". I think we proved otherwise in our season opener against "Our B..ch" PSU. Not too many teams can say/prove that they would be any more competitive agaisnt PSU than we were.Yes, we've had some dissapointing losses. It's still early in the season. GD people, get it together. A real fan shows love even when the sky seems to be fallin. I think ZN needs to offer more encouragement to our team, as I'm sure that some team members do read these comments. Spreading/believing a positive attitude really can inspire the team to play to the best of their ability. That's all it takes. If we play to our capabilities, we will win. We are the Champions. we are the champions, no time for losers, cause we are the Champions of the MAC. F our opponets. We're gonna kick some donkeys!

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Can't Statecks. GO ZIPS!!!!

My hope also. From the very little I've seen of him, I still believe Devoe has the ability to gain impressive ypc. I hope he impresses us all tomorrow. GO ZIPS!!

I hope this is true. And it's about time. Though AA has an NFL body, he just isn't himself yet (anymore?). Too bad Dale Martin is apparently injury prone; he looked like the most explosive back of them all.Go DeVo! Put your head down and run hard! We need some more testosterone in our offense!You know I like Devoe. From the Indaina game......BTW -I just want to say that I for one, was pretty impressed with how Devoe Torrence ran the ball. I thought he showed a lot of toughness and running skill. I think he's gonna give us a real threat with our running game. I love Bowser and LeFrance. But now we just need Devoe to be un-leashed! I'm confident he's gonna bring a lot of smiles to us. I say Devoe is "Dreal Deal". Go Bowser, Go LaFrance, Go Rodgers, Go Almondo, Go Devoe, Go Everyone, GO ZIPS!!!

I agree with you. I will never give up on this team. I would never walk out early on them. Yes it is painful to watch 4 interceptions in a singel game. But we will move on and get better. I believe JD has built a talented team with good coaches. It is only a matter of a short time before things turn around for us. And when they do, I hope people will rally this team to the MAC Championship and beyond. I know some ZN may think I'm overly optimistic, but I really do believe in this team and will not go down without a fight. It would take a punch from Mike Tyson to put me down, and then I'd probably STILL be able to get back up and Bitch-Slap him!! GO ZIPS!!!!! BTW -I just want to say that I for one, was pretty impressed with how Devoe Torrence ran the ball. I thought he showed a lot of toughness and running skill. I think he's gonna give us a real threat with our running game. I love Bowser and LeFrance. But now we just need Devoe to be un-leashed! I'm confident he's gonna bring a lot of smiles to us. I say Devoe is "Dreal Deal". Go Bowser, Go LaFrance, Go Rodgers, Go Almondo, Go Devoe, Go Everyone, GO ZIPS!!!

I agree with you. I will never give up on this team. I would never walk out early on them. Yes it is painful to watch 4 interceptions in a singel game. But we will move on and get better. I believe JD has built a talented team with good coaches. It is only a matter of a short time before things turn around for us. And when they do, I hope people will rally this team to the MAC Championship and beyond. I know some ZN may think I'm overly optimistic, but I really do believe in this team and will not go down without a fight. It would take a punch from Mike Tyson to put me down, and then I'd probably STILL be able to get back up and Bitch-Slap him!! GO ZIPS!!!!!

thanks for the pix. We will overcome. This Year! GO ZIPS

DEFENSE wins championships. I have that written on my "Glorious IU Football" wall in my basement. It's the credo that former MAC coach Bill Lynch has instilled into his team. He instructs his coaches to teach it. It is what separates the hunter(IU) vs. the hunted(Akron). Our championship level defense decided they had to make a stand and they did. The problem is that our offense did not score the 40+ points that Bill Lynch requested. He has fixed that problem this week in practice(see practice report above) and it will pay massive dividends in the game on Saturday. If you had played us last Saturday, we probably don't score 40 points but times have changed in Bloomington.I apologize if I sound cocky. I don't mean to be. I am just aware of the exponential increase in play of the HOO HOO HOOSIERS! I don't blame you all for doubting what I am saying. You haven't seen the practice reports from the previous week. It is ok. There are certain names that every household in America will be introduced to on Saturday. I won't ruin the surprise for you guys but a couple stars will be born on the gridiron in the municipality of Akron.HOO HOO HOOSIERS!The only surprise anyone will see this Saturday afternoon at UA's InfoCision Stadium will be how ridiculously lop-sided this game will be. And the ONLY stars anyone will see will be those ZIPS on the new InfoCision gridiron who will not only be delivering Fresh, Hot, Humble Pie to the Hoosier football fans, but also free Cans-Of-Whoopass to Bill Lynch and his championship level defense. We got our own championship defensive stars, who's names will be indelibly tattooed on the psyche's of any/alll Hoosiers who get in their way. And our kick-ass offense is gonna score points so fast and furious that Hoosier fans heads are gonna spin faster than Linda Blair's. (yes,from The Exorcist). You are gonna have whiplash from watching the Zips add points to our new scoreboard. When the Zips are done with you, you are gonna be the Poster Child of the HOOse HOO of Big Ten teams that have gotten their butts spanked by the Zips. And then every household in America will will be intoduced to what we already warned you about; Fear The Roo Zips: 49Hoo hoo's: 6Hoosier Roo?

Do you get the feeling that went right over most of the Nation's heads?I remember Morganna as a kid running out and kissing that guy. Don't reember whoe the player was though.

thanks for the nice pix, especially for us that couldn't be there. If you have any more, that would be extra nice. GO ZIPS!!!!

I was watching at the Brittania Pub in Santa Monica. I was the only one wearing my AKRON ZIPS FOTBALL jersey. Did you see me. I sat upstairs. It was a sea of PSU Jerseys. They all kept doing that lame ass cheer with one guy leading the chant of "we are penn state". There were several PSU fans wearing those T-shirts that just say "We Are". I asked one such young lady fan if that was supposed to mean "We Are Marshall". She kinda smiled and gave me one of those blank looking PSU stares when she saw my jersey. I enjoyed the game. I just hope we learn from this experience and put it to good use. Obviously beating PSU at home for a season opener, is a major challenge for any team. I don't beleive we played to our potential but we need to just build ourselves up, put this game behind us, and play better/smarter for the rest of the season. PSU got some big plays. We messed up at some critical times. It's behind us. We move on and begin winning the rest of our schedule. I KNOW WE CAN.

BEAT PENN STATE BEAT PENN STATE BEAT PENN STATE BEAT PENN STATE BEAT PENN STATE BEAT PENN STATE BEAT PENN STATE GO ZIPS!!!!!! WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS WE ARE THE CHAMPIONSONLY A FEW MORE HOURS - WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WE BEAT PENN STATE WE BEAT PENN STATE WE BEAT PENN STATE WE BEAT PENN STATEGoooooooooooooooooooooooo ZIPSsssssssssssssssssss.WE'RE BAD. WE'RE NATIONWIDE!!!!!!! WHO'S NEXT? BRING EM ON!

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1. from our own 31. from shotgun- deep slant route to Bowser +40yds. 2. handoff to allen +5yds off left tackleGO ZIPS?Capn- is the beer import?

So what about the Tonganator. As I recall he was the second best guy named Tonga available at the time we offered. More hype than substance?From what I understand, he's injured.I stand corrected. It is not an injury. LA Harbor has apparently not submitted the academic info required to ensure his eligibility. UA has to wait for the bureaucracy to run its course.It isn't a clearing house issue, but the end effect is the same. Saving BuckZip the effort -- This probably is a bit premature, but I think pretty soon we will be hearing BREAKING NEWS - MONSTER HANDS SIGHTING @ InfoCision Stadium. The Tonganator Is In The House. GO ZIPS!!! GOOOOO!!!!

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Greetings from Dreal. Tad Premature…, I don’t think so. Irrational exuberance…., Absolutely Not. BTW, please don’t forget who we are. We Are “The Zips”, not Marshall or whoever else may have stolen that tag line (hehe). And come the afternoon of 9/5/09, We, The Zips, are going to leave an indelible tattoo “FEAR THE ROO” on the psyche of every PSU fan. Then you shall know and believe, We Are, “The Zips”. Best Wishes for a great game. GO ZIPS!!!!

PSucks look-alike-thread is not that good. Just like their team. Granted they are good, just not the same caliber as the ZIPS. We don't need to waste any time worrying about them and their thread. We will prove ourselves on the battlefield. They can laugh all they want now, but come 9/5/09, the ZIPS will be dancing in the streets. I've personally already paid in advance from a very pricey bakery, for an ENORMOUS quantity of Cupcakes for ALL the ZIPS Nation and players to gorge ourselves as we celebrate our Victory. PSUcks has no idea what they're getting into. Man, they are Stupid Suckers!!! Let their Pre-Game laughter ring loud & clear. The ZIPS are a-comin' and we won't take any prisoners. We come to play. And PLAY we will. It may prove to be a battle of epic proportions. BUT, That's what the 2009 ZIPS thrive on. Bring them Suckers On!! We can't wait. I'm getting hungry already for those Cupcakes! We all know who PSU is. And we're gonna steal their girls and take their beer!!! PSUcks!!!! WE ARE READY. BRING 'EM ALL ON!

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/ncfnationPSU's Wallace likely suspended for 1-2 games August 13, 2009 11:58 PMPosted by ESPN.com's Adam RittenbergJoe Paterno is all for second chances, but the legendary Penn State head coach doesn't tolerate academic missteps of any kind. So it's no surprise that Paterno will discipline cornerback A.J. Wallace for cutting classes.Wallace likely will be suspended for Penn State's first game or two because of his academic issues. So the Nittany Lions probably will be without one of their most experienced defensive backs when they open the season Sept. 5 against Akron."I've told A.J. I might not play him in a game or two because he had cut classes and if he cuts anymore classes he won't play," Paterno said Thursday at media day. "I think you've gotta send a message and there's no sense sending a message to someone who's not a player. He's obviously one of our better players. ... Now when I play him will depend on what I hear back from our academic advisers."Penn State will crush Akron and Syracuse whether or not Wallace is on the field, but it's important for a new-look secondary to build chemistry as quickly as possible. Sophomore D'Anton Lynn could get an opportunity to shine in a starting role early, though I'd expect Wallace to have the top job most of the season.I applaud JoePa for this, and I am glad its happening against the Zips (didn't much care for the crush Akron comment in the article though).Adam Ritttenburg is IMO one Big Dumb MFAH. Go Zips!! We play to our potential, we WILL win. That is a fact. NFD.

The Zips are planning on using a 2-2-4, using only freshman to save the better players for the tougher games later in the year and also giving Penn State our offensive playbook (marked with which plays we're using and when we'll be using them) in order to even out the playing field and give the Nittany Lions (Latin Translation: Single Mountain Cat - loosely translated: Scared Pussy) - a chance!That's what I heard from JD also. Just because PSU is our B..tch, and basically not any real threat to us, doesn't mean we have to embarrass the Cowardly Lions (Wizard of Oz reference for you PSU readers). We're gonna save our Big Boys for when they're needed. Of course we will give them some playing time (maybe not against the Scared Pussies of Penn), just for the tune-up to the MAC Championship. Ultimately, a win against PSU will be just another win. We got bigger fish to fry.Can you say "Just Like the Rose Bowl, Close But No Cigar". The Cowardly Lions are going down, Again!!!! Seriously, im a zips fan and its getting really annoying that you are calling PENN STATE, PENN. they are 2 differant schools. STOP PLEASEPENN STATE is Still Our Bi...ch and PENN Will Be our Bi..ch if we ever play them. Why? Because:We are the champions - my friendsAnd we'll keep on fighting - till the end -We are the champions -We are the championsNo time for losers (like our Bi..ch Penn State) hehe 'Cause we are the champions - of the world -GO ZIPS!!

The Zips are planning on using a 2-2-4, using only freshman to save the better players for the tougher games later in the year and also giving Penn State our offensive playbook (marked with which plays we're using and when we'll be using them) in order to even out the playing field and give the Nittany Lions (Latin Translation: Single Mountain Cat - loosely translated: Scared Pussy) - a chance!That's what I heard from JD also. Just because PSU is our B..tch, and basically not any real threat to us, doesn't mean we have to embarrass the Cowardly Lions (Wizard of Oz reference for you PSU readers). We're gonna save our Big Boys for when they're needed. Of course we will give them some playing time (maybe not against the Scared Pussies of Penn), just for the tune-up to the MAC Championship. Ultimately, a win against PSU will be just another win. We got bigger fish to fry.Can you say "Just Like the Rose Bowl, Close But No Cigar". The Cowardly Lions are going down, Again!!!! Seriously, im a zips fan and its getting really annoying that you are calling PENN STATE, PENN. they are 2 differant schools. STOP PLEASE(maybe not against the scared Pussies of Penn STATE)

The Zips are planning on using a 2-2-4, using only freshman to save the better players for the tougher games later in the year and also giving Penn State our offensive playbook (marked with which plays we're using and when we'll be using them) in order to even out the playing field and give the Nittany Lions (Latin Translation: Single Mountain Cat - loosely translated: Scared Pussy) - a chance!That's what I heard from JD also. Just because PSU is our B..tch, and basically not any real threat to us, doesn't mean we have to embarrass the Cowardly Lions (Wizard of Oz reference for you PSU readers). We're gonna save our Big Boys for when they're needed. Of course we will give them some playing time (maybe not against the Scared Pussies of Penn), just for the tune-up to the MAC Championship. Ultimately, a win against PSU will be just another win. We got bigger fish to fry.Can you say "Just Like the Rose Bowl, Close But No Cigar". The Cowardly Lions are going down, Again!!!!

Of course we are not playing the Quakers. We are playing the Mighty & Fearless Penn State Nittany Lions. Everyone is afraid of you . You are invincible. We know what we’re up against. We know of your historical accomplishments. We know you think of us as a “cupcake” opponent. We know of your highly touted QB. But we do not fear you. As a matter of fact You Had Better FEAR THE ROO.This game will be analogous to the Real biblical story of David and Goliath (you being Goliath, and us ZIPS being David). The common misconception of the face-off between the giant Goliath and the young boy David, was that, David (armed only with a slingshot a pouch full of stones) reached into his bag and slung one of his stones at Goliath's head. Finding a hole in Goliath’s armor, the stone sank into the giant’s forehead and he fell face down on the ground. David then took Goliath's sword, killed him and then cut off his head. But that’s the fairy tale biblical story for children. But back to the Real biblical story of David and Goliath. (you being Goliath, and us ZIPS being David). What really happened… David fearlessly stood his ground, his strong legs and sandaled feet planted firmly in the dirt. When the giant criticized, insulted and threatened, David didn't stop or even waver. He stared straight into the Giant Goliath’s eyes. And then…., David reached down and removed one of his sandals, and then…, David leapt mightily into the air, hovering momentarily right smack in front of Goliath’s face, and then, and then…, he took his sandal and BITCH-SLAPPED that Giant because we all know that PSU is still our Bit..h, and always will be. We know who we’re playing. Do you?, You little bi…. Slapped losers. ZIPS RULE. AKRON 28PSU 6