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How many new off-campus arenas used by colleges are owned by the university?

I get IM's from Jake but we have had differences of opinion over this. I changed my stance on the arena being on campus, after the Buffalo game. I named two sites (one on Market and this one on the ball diamond) myself. I came up with all of the reasons the ballpark site makes sense myself. He's never even mentioned it. My opinions come from being a Polsky building student. I don't know if he's ever been in there since it was Polsky's. I pasted the post I got from him. Nobody has answered my question yet...

Downtown is not "ON CAMPUS" no matter how you spin it. It is not a chance to visit the main campus, it is not a chance to show off the main campus. And from the sounds of it, those who are pledging to help fund this also agree. And who's to say an arena adding dates to the sports complex (not to mention the expansive student housing on that street) wouldn't result in more restaraunts and bars opening? None of that downtown stuff was there when Canal Park was Hotel Anthony Wayne... I would never equate Polsky with part of campus. I attend there three days a week for my Minor. It is a community college. It is Wayne College downtown. It serves a much MUCH different clientele than main campus does. It is not something I want to show my family for friends to represent the University of Akron. It is nice, and does a great job of what it does, but does not represent the core campus. Just curious, how many of those off-campus arenas are actually university owned?

I disagree, right smack in the middle of campus is fine. It works great for soccer. It highlights the best parts of campus. That said, the baseball stadium is some prime real estate. You put the arena right behind the soccer stands, it can contain facilities for soccer, the track, and for the practice field. It's near the Info. And it's adjacent to Exchange Street. The new Exchange St deck can be utilized. Joe Akron can enter from Exchange St, hitting the bars and restaurants before or after the game. Alumni can walk through campus from any parking area and still be a short walk from the bars and restaurants. All within the shadow of the Info, the Rec, and the Union. ANd it's probably near the geographic center of student housing. Just don't muck up the space between the arena and Exchange with a big ugly parking lot. Keep it green.

I'm convinced it needs to be on campus. And I have heard from alumni who are making contributions to the cause, who will have it no other way. From Jake I agree, Joe Soccerfan has nooo problem finding a parking spot and walking across campus to watch the team. And neither does the boisterous student section, as well as the other students peppered in with the general admission. We had lots of Joe Akron and tons of students at the Info. Once. When I took my sons to the Rubber Blow, it was a stadium by the airport. When I take them to the Info, they walk across campus. They see that the U is not a community college, or an urban CSU campus. They take in the "scenery" and the Union and the Rec and everything else there for the students. They have a very different opinion of "Hilltop High". They just might take it seriously when they choose a college.

I have to agree with that. I was born 2 years after the last Cleveland title. When the Zips soccer team won the national championship, everyone in my house looked at me to see how I would react. It was more relief than excitement.

That was closer than it needed to be. But we're 6 for 6!!!

I know I had a lot of "spurtability" when I watched her...

What if the area around the arena ans stadium becomes a bar and restaurant district (again)? Best of both worlds. Not to mention what it would do to campus life.

I've been hearing this since the 1970's. Yes it's popular among adolescents, and is gaining in popularity (as fast as the population of adolescents grows???). We heard it with the NASL. We heard it with the MISL. We heard it with the alphabet soup that followed. But that has never translated to pro sport popularity. Don't get me wrong, nobody wants to see the MLS prosper and become relevant more than I do. And I think it's a crime we don't have an MLS team in this market. After being the only profitable MISL and NPSL(1) franchises, we've shown our stripes. But to tell you the truth, I am more worried as a soccer fan about lacrosse than I am a baseball fan worried about soccer...

Suit yourself. Walking through the Student Union at lunch time, I have to disagree with your "no one ever". LOL. Must be a bunch of old farts going there for lunch everyday.

ESPN SportCenter rarely features MLS at all. Sometimes an international play makes the top ten, or a Beckham stir will make the news. But I'm not ready to put MLS above MLB anytime soon. One problem with baseball is the season is nine months long, you don't see a lot of big stories until the pennant races and playoffs. Same with basketball. Injuries and big performances make the news. But Boston playing Baltimore in June just doesn't grab anybody. Not like a regular season NFL game (1 of only 16).

Baseball dying? What attendance trends are you looking at? http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/...ttendance.shtml 1980 attendance: 43,014,136 1990 attendance: 54,823,741 2011 attendance: 73,451,522 Source: http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/attendance.htm We won't even look at minor league... I love soccer and all, but come on, you are reaching on saying baseball is dying.

...and put the Zips on the Ohio map...

Jerry Palm has Akron the 15 seed in the West, playing tOSU in the first round. Which is NC's bracket. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology Lunardi has us #59, which should put us against #5 Michigan St, right? Or do the regions skewer all that? I think I'd rather have the Bucks in the first round, and keep them from hitting from the arc.

The Zips just won the bid to host the 2013 TSCHL tournament.

And closing out the season against conference teams. Not getting beat to hell by non-conference teams and limping into the tourney like this year.

Wow, this certainly blew up from "students do pay for admission and should be treated better"...

Non-conference schedule for next year (the open dates will be filled in by the TSCHL). Homestands against tOSU, UK, and Duqu. Already looking forward to it. 9/21 Ohio State University M2 9/22 Ohio State University M2 9/29 @ Louisville M2 9/30 @ Louisville M2 10/5 10/6 10/12 10/13 10/19 10/20 10/26 University of Kentucky M2 10/27 University of Kentucky M2 11/3 @ Duquesne M1 11/4 @ Duquesne M1 11/9 11/10 11/16 11/17 11/23 11/24 11/30 12/1 12/7 12/8 12/14 12/15 1/11 1/12 1/18 1/19 1/25 1/26 2/1 2/2 2/8 @ Bowling Green State University M2 2/9 @ Bowling Green State University M2 2/15 Duquesne M1 2/16 Duquesne M1 2/22 2/23

Well, the Zips fought back from an early deficit, but came up just short losing 6-5 to Toledo in the conference tournament. Great run guys, and thanks for the memories seniors

The semi's are Wednesday at 7 on STO The finals are Saturday at 8 on ESPN2

Which for a "typical" 12 credit hour student, that equals $800.00 a year. I understand what you're saying, I attend as a student, and have observed the way students are treated at men's soccer and men's basketball games. "You're not a Rowdie? Go over there and leave us alone." There is so much more potential prime seating in a facility the size of the JAR, if it had been designed properly. There's so much wasted space. Obstructions. Multi-purpose "labs" that I wonder if they have even been used the past decade.

Thank you. That was my impression, but wanted to know for sure before I blew them up. Now, I don't have to, a +1 works fine.

No matter what happens Friday night, Akron has a bye for the first two rounds. If they win, then they still win the regular season title, and top seed in Cleveland. That also comes with an auto bid in the NIT if the worst case scenario happens in Cleveland.

Is the lower bowl just for season ticket holders and Rowdies?