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What has he contributed to their recruiting efforts?

Enjoy success.

Follow the results in the Universities Facebook page. They do a decent job of updating people on the ongoing failure of the program.

I come at this from a different angle. He and his staff aren't taken seriously enough by high school coaches so they aren't able to get enough good players. He has to know the talent isn't good enough. He's incapable of doing anything about it. On field coaching is the most overrated thing in college sports. It's all about getting good players. He isn't getting them. If the next question isn't asked during the next interview process, everyone should be fired. Can you tell me about successes you have had improving your team's talent through recruiting? I bet John Hunter at Wake Forest could easily answer this question. He was a stud recruiter for Clawson at BGSU and has continued in that role at Wake. He is from Detroit. He is the RBs coach and has recruited such a stable of players that their best RB from last year transferred to Michigan State and he has three guys behind him just as good. They have not missed a beat. For years I have been tired of hearing about process and have been looking for results. We need someone who has produced results everywhere he has been throughout his programs. Maybe a guy like Hunter isn't achievable, but there a guys like him out there.

While that may be the reputation, the reality is different. It's "the graveyard of coaches'.

Get in line.

Good post. NE Ohio is a culture of apathy. It's a great place to live and all people do is complain about it. I don't understand why. The State of Ohio does not do a good job of framing the MAC schools as valuable parts of the communities they are located. Athletics could be an important part of it. As a whole, the citizens of Ohio are not viewing these schools as the tremendous value they are because they are not made aware of the great things these schools do for their communities. It's a real shame and opportunity. The State should promote these schools better.

Existentialism is for the clinically depressed.

Akron has almost everything it needs. Winning needs to get fixed. GameDay experience could be a little better to attract the casual person around Akron. They need to get winning.

Our problem is losing. In fact, one could say it is the one thing people most associate with the brand that the program is. I have Wake Forest season tickets. Not a powerhouse but does everything they can the best they can. Years ago, Notre Dame wanted them to change their game to the NFL stadium in Charlotte. Wake told them to pound salt and played in their 27,000 seat stadium in Winston. Your home is your home. Play there.

Uh, no. I almost threw up when I saw this. Not sure how Grobe has fooled so many people in his career. I sat in the stands for several years and watched Grobe transform an ACC Championship team into a losing team then a losing program. I watch him waste the senior season of then the best QB in Wake history and go 5-7 by running the fullback dive ever other play in a winnable game against Miami which they lost 17-10. After a bad season he went and told the AD he wanted transition the offense to a triple option attack which would have doomed the program for decades. They had a great AD at the time who responded with, "You're fired." That's leadership we need at Akron.

Because in just a few years, their main idea, maximizing freedom, is making college football from top to bottom the best it has ever been. The transfer portal is a total Libertarian idea and college football is more entertaining/competitive than it has been in my lifetime. NIL will prove to do the same thing.

John Hunter

The free movement of labor is critical to Libertarian beliefs. The transfer portal is the best thing to happen to college football in many years. It has made college football much more competitive because really good players are not held in bad situations and others can exploit their services. The new school wins and the player wins. The old school really doesn't lose because the us a player they really weren't using anyhow. To not exploit these looser restrictions is to not understand this basic concept and maximize opportunities.

Of course not. He openly interviewed for the Chargers QB coach job.

He was a second place MAC East coach. We've had two coaches since him who made the MACC and one won the championship. Akron probably held on to him a couple years too long.

Your last sentence may in fact be correct, but that's irrelevant. I have a relative who is well connected in Ohio high school football. The problem is no high school coaches don't take Arth or anyone on his staff seriously as D1 coaches. It will never matter if he can coach or not as long as there is no talent. Recruiting is more important than coaching. He'll never be successful at Akron. I don't wish ill on Arth. He just needs to go. He'll be fine. It's shocking that Akron has missed so badly on two coaches in roughly 15 years.

My goodness. I actually put this post in the wrong thread. I couldn't be more indifferent to what's going on with this program. Post belongs in OU thread.

I was driving home from Winston Salem today and turned on the game on XM. Ten minutes to go. Zips down by 3. A comedy of errors take place in 3 plays. I turned it off. Life is too short.

In addition to a better product, what if we just gave tickets to those people already paying for them? Meaning, since the taxpayers of Ohio already support MAC football because it can't support itself, why not let them attend the games they are already paying for? Let's confess that MAC football is a public works program that benefits the taxpayers and let them take advantage of it.

Our previous stadium was literally on the verge of being condemned by the City of Akron. For the cost of renovating a delapidated public works project from the Depression Era, 10 miles from campus, with no doors on the bathroom stalls, we got a brand new stadium, on campus while eliminating what had become a very bad neighborhood. I agree we need oomph. It's called winning. As a Cyclone fan, you should know how important this is. There is no good reason for Akron to be as bad as it is currently. A game in Canton isn't going to change that. The Hall of Fame is an awesome thing to those who don't live in NE Ohio. For those who live in the area, it's just another thing to do every few years and will not attract people.

I think these games do, indeed, have a measurable impact and that impact is almost entirely in the negative. If it was positive, athletic directors, who are little more than snake oil salesmen, would not describe them as being "good for exposure". The snake oil salesmen sells snake oil as the cure for your ailments knowing the snake oil will only make you sicker. Since your condition is worse, they then are able to sell even more snake oil for your problems. This is how the Tennessee game came to be. There is nothing about that game that benefits the players, students, alumni, fans and greater Akron community. It almost exclusively benefits the athletic director's career and Tennessee. See how G5 ADs do not act in the best interest of the institutions they work for? Bet everything you have that the Tennessee game will not result in a rapid influx of students from Tennessee.

Not long ago Akron spent $65 million on a new stadium. That money wasn't spent so games could be moved to Canton.

Believe your own eyes.

The Wishful Thinking Universe. My mother always said, "Make a wish or crap in your hat. See which one fills up first." The exposure argument is made by G5 athletic directors right before they do something in their own self interest that harms the school they work for.