Early HC Scouting

[Buckzip]

What makes us think that Ianello won't be back next season?

A lot of prayers.

[UAZip0510]

For the Tressel lovers..If you've been paying attention to some of the recent conversations and speculations about his future, you'll see that a 5-year ban is being projected as his fate. I guess that might explain why he looked so interested in the NFL. So, can we finally get his name off of the table now? I would hope we wouldn't stoop to that level to even consider him anyway.

Having a packed Info and a Top 25 team would suuuuuck...

[Buckzip]

For the Tressel lovers..If you've been paying attention to some of the recent conversations and speculations about his future, you'll see that a 5-year ban is being projected as his fate. I guess that might explain why he looked so interested in the NFL. So, can we finally get his name off of the table now? I would hope we wouldn't stoop to that level to even consider him anyway.

Having a packed Info and a Top 25 team would suuuuuck...

For 3 posters here it would suck big time.

[skip-zip]

For the Tressel lovers..If you've been paying attention to some of the recent conversations and speculations about his future, you'll see that a 5-year ban is being projected as his fate. I guess that might explain why he looked so interested in the NFL. So, can we finally get his name off of the table now? I would hope we wouldn't stoop to that level to even consider him anyway.

Having a packed Info and a Top 25 team would suuuuuck...

For 3 posters here it would suck big time.

Because the almighty OSWho ex-coach must certainly be able to take any D-1 program and elevate them to the Top-25 and fill their stadium?Which, of course, doesn't even matter. He won't be allowed to coach for awhile, if ever, because he's now elevated himself to the status of one of the most notorious cheaters and liars of his era.

[Buckzip]

For the Tressel lovers..If you've been paying attention to some of the recent conversations and speculations about his future, you'll see that a 5-year ban is being projected as his fate. I guess that might explain why he looked so interested in the NFL. So, can we finally get his name off of the table now? I would hope we wouldn't stoop to that level to even consider him anyway.

Having a packed Info and a Top 25 team would suuuuuck...

For 3 posters here it would suck big time.

Because the almighty OSWho ex-coach must certainly be able to take any D-1 program and elevate them to the Top-25 and fill their stadium?Which, of course, doesn't even matter. He won't be allowed to coach for awhile, if ever, because he's now elevated himself to the status of one of the most notorious cheaters and liars of his era.

[skip-zip]

I laugh about it too.

[RowdyZip]

I detest the Buckeyes. I've posted it about it several times. However, I do respect Zips fans that choose to support both teams. I know some people here don't, and that's fine too. If you're an Akron student/alumni and you support the Buckeyes first and the Zips second that's where I run into an issue. That's just me. But I digress...If you think hiring Jim Tressell, if at all possible, wouldn't be at the very least a great shot in the arm to this program, you're being blinded by the Buckeye hatred. Sure, it wouldn't be worth it if the penalties were too severe, but otherwise it'd be the best move any AD at the school has ever made. Hiring Tressell would ad legitimacy to the program in the eyes of "Joe Akron." Hiring Tressell, though glomming on to the Buckeye bandwagon, would likely put 20k real butts in seats. Hiring Jim Tressell would guarantee Akron gets all the mid level/marginal BCS recruits, especially locally and all over the state of Ohio. Kids would be beating down the door to play for the guy. If you had the chance to play for K-ent/BG/Miami/Ohio/Toledo or Akron with the best facilities and stadium in the conference and a name coach, who would you choose?I have no doubt in my mind that the guy would easily turn the program around. And when it comes to 3 more years of Ianello or Jim Tressell, I'd hope we'd all be in agreement on the choice. If there were any chance, any chance at all...Youtube Tom should find a way to get it done.

[GP1]

If there were any chance, any chance at all...Youtube Tom should find a way to get it done.

If there is a 1% chance of the deal happening, how much time should TW put into it?

[Zipmeister]

If there were any chance, any chance at all...Youtube Tom should find a way to get it done.

If there is a 1% chance of the deal happening, how much time should TW put into it?

50 hours. If the probability is higher, he should spend less time on it. (e.g., if the probability is 99.9% he should spend 1 minute on it.)

[zipinnc]

As the dominoes begin to fall with coaches losing their jobs, let's look at 2 possibilites. Mike Stoops from Arizona or Houston Nutt from Ole Miss. These two would be similar to OU hiring Solich. Is this the route we want to go? Can we afford one of these guys with the iCoach buyout? If not, what are the other REAL options?

[GP1]

50 hours.

Hours or minutes?

[Lee Adams]

As the dominoes begin to fall with coaches losing their jobs, let's look at 2 possibilites. Mike Stoops from Arizona or Houston Nutt from Ole Miss. These two would be similar to OU hiring Solich. Is this the route we want to go? Can we afford one of these guys with the iCoach buyout? If not, what are the other REAL options?

Take it for what you will. I spoke with a faculty member who has been close to the f.ball program for years. Asked about the Ianello situation. That person's opinion is that not only will Ianello be back next year but likely at least the year after that. They can't afford the $$$$$$ for a buyout and pay another HC at this point.

[g-mann17]

As the dominoes begin to fall with coaches losing their jobs, let's look at 2 possibilites. Mike Stoops from Arizona or Houston Nutt from Ole Miss. These two would be similar to OU hiring Solich. Is this the route we want to go? Can we afford one of these guys with the iCoach buyout? If not, what are the other REAL options?

Take it for what you will. I spoke with a faculty member who has been close to the f.ball program for years. Asked about the Ianello situation. That person's opinion is that not only will Ianello be back next year but likely at least the year after that. They can't afford the $$$$$$ for a buyout and pay another HC at this point.

Interesting popular sentiment among the circles I converse with say they doubt that certain people at high positions involved in the discussions we have been having would be back.For cost, he makes $350,000 a year. Next year we play at Tennessee, I would say that is a wash for buying him out of 2 years. Not to mention at $20 a ticket average we would need two sell outs to cover the cost of him. We are losing the money by keeping him after two 1-11 seasons. Cost isn't an issue on him staying or going. Its whether he shows progress in APR, attendance, class room performance, and on field performance. So too early on the first, faked on the second, positive on the third, and negative on the forth. It just depends on where the priorities are. Also is now the time to go coach hunting? Nutter, Stoops, Tressel, Rodriquez, half the Penn State staff, there will be a lot of coaches, but is there potential.

[ZachTheZip]

Think of it this way. We would be paying Ianello NOT to coach here. That's a worthwhile investment.

[johnnyzip84]

His career may be too far along at this point, but Paul Winters and his Wayne St Warriors are on the cusp of a GLIAC championship and D-2 playoff berth. Whether he'd ever be considered here or not, I'll always root for the guy. He's done one helluva job up there. I know, I know.......I'm beating the drum once or twice too often

[g-mann17]

Pinkel

Maybe Akron can get their own Solich? Come on Mizzou let him go for "character flaws"

[Lee Adams]

As the dominoes begin to fall with coaches losing their jobs, let's look at 2 possibilites. Mike Stoops from Arizona or Houston Nutt from Ole Miss. These two would be similar to OU hiring Solich. Is this the route we want to go? Can we afford one of these guys with the iCoach buyout? If not, what are the other REAL options?

Take it for what you will. I spoke with a faculty member who has been close to the f.ball program for years. Asked about the Ianello situation. That person's opinion is that not only will Ianello be back next year but likely at least the year after that. They can't afford the $$$$$$ for a buyout and pay another HC at this point.

Interesting popular sentiment among the circles I converse with say they doubt that certain people at high positions involved in the discussions we have been having would be back.

For cost, he makes $350,000 a year. Next year we play at Tennessee, I would say that is a wash for buying him out of 2 years. Not to mention at $20 a ticket average we would need two sell outs to cover the cost of him. We are losing the money by keeping him after two 1-11 seasons.

Cost isn't an issue on him staying or going. Its whether he shows progress in APR, attendance, class room performance, and on field performance. So too early on the first, faked on the second, positive on the third, and negative on the forth. It just depends on where the priorities are. Also is now the time to go coach hunting? Nutter, Stoops, Tressel, Rodriquez, half the Penn State staff, there will be a lot of coaches, but is there potential.

If you take 350 x 2 or 3 grand out of the Akron sports budget you affect every program at the school. So it is significant. They really can't do that unless they come up with some spare change somewhere. He will be back next year. After that who knows?

[g-mann17]

As the dominoes begin to fall with coaches losing their jobs, let's look at 2 possibilites. Mike Stoops from Arizona or Houston Nutt from Ole Miss. These two would be similar to OU hiring Solich. Is this the route we want to go? Can we afford one of these guys with the iCoach buyout? If not, what are the other REAL options?

Take it for what you will. I spoke with a faculty member who has been close to the f.ball program for years. Asked about the Ianello situation. That person's opinion is that not only will Ianello be back next year but likely at least the year after that. They can't afford the $$$$$$ for a buyout and pay another HC at this point.

Interesting popular sentiment among the circles I converse with say they doubt that certain people at high positions involved in the discussions we have been having would be back.

For cost, he makes $350,000 a year. Next year we play at Tennessee, I would say that is a wash for buying him out of 2 years. Not to mention at $20 a ticket average we would need two sell outs to cover the cost of him. We are losing the money by keeping him after two 1-11 seasons.

Cost isn't an issue on him staying or going. Its whether he shows progress in APR, attendance, class room performance, and on field performance. So too early on the first, faked on the second, positive on the third, and negative on the forth. It just depends on where the priorities are. Also is now the time to go coach hunting? Nutter, Stoops, Tressel, Rodriquez, half the Penn State staff, there will be a lot of coaches, but is there potential.

If you take 350 x 2 or 3 grand out of the Akron sports budget you affect every program at the school. So it is significant. They really can't do that unless they come up with some spare change somewhere. He will be back next year. After that who knows?

My point is, an empty stadium is the same as taking the hit on his salary. He coaches again and we average 5000 fans all season and then have problems selling the (suite, loge and club seats) that is just as damaging as paying him off right now. Let's not forget that the Suite, loge, and club seats only had a 3 year commitment to them. At 10 grand a pop for suites that's $120 grand off the table right there. You account for all the seats up there its about half a million a year that we will struggle to sell.

If you pick the right coach, a name coach (a Fickell, or Tressel, or a winning lower division coach) you create a sense of hope and can put some butts in the seats that will eat up the cost of paying off Rob's contract.

[Captain Kangaroo]

If you pick the right coach, a name coach (a Fickell, or Tressel, or a winning lower division coach) you create a sense of hope and can put some butts in the seats that will eat up the cost of paying off Rob's contract.

What a complete scam - Absolutely suck at your job...get fired after 2 seasons...and take $1million from UA over the next 3 seasons to NOT coach the team.

I'm in the wrong business.

[Lee Adams]

As the dominoes begin to fall with coaches losing their jobs, let's look at 2 possibilites. Mike Stoops from Arizona or Houston Nutt from Ole Miss. These two would be similar to OU hiring Solich. Is this the route we want to go? Can we afford one of these guys with the iCoach buyout? If not, what are the other REAL options?

Take it for what you will. I spoke with a faculty member who has been close to the f.ball program for years. Asked about the Ianello situation. That person's opinion is that not only will Ianello be back next year but likely at least the year after that. They can't afford the $$$$$$ for a buyout and pay another HC at this point.

Interesting popular sentiment among the circles I converse with say they doubt that certain people at high positions involved in the discussions we have been having would be back.

For cost, he makes $350,000 a year. Next year we play at Tennessee, I would say that is a wash for buying him out of 2 years. Not to mention at $20 a ticket average we would need two sell outs to cover the cost of him. We are losing the money by keeping him after two 1-11 seasons.

Cost isn't an issue on him staying or going. Its whether he shows progress in APR, attendance, class room performance, and on field performance. So too early on the first, faked on the second, positive on the third, and negative on the forth. It just depends on where the priorities are. Also is now the time to go coach hunting? Nutter, Stoops, Tressel, Rodriquez, half the Penn State staff, there will be a lot of coaches, but is there potential.

If you take 350 x 2 or 3 grand out of the Akron sports budget you affect every program at the school. So it is significant. They really can't do that unless they come up with some spare change somewhere. He will be back next year. After that who knows?

My point is, an empty stadium is the same as taking the hit on his salary. He coaches again and we average 5000 fans all season and then have problems selling the (suite, loge and club seats) that is just as damaging as paying him off right now. Let's not forget that the Suite, loge, and club seats only had a 3 year commitment to them. At 10 grand a pop for suites that's $120 grand off the table right there. You account for all the seats up there its about half a million a year that we will struggle to sell.

If you pick the right coach, a name coach (a Fickell, or Tressel, or a winning lower division coach) you create a sense of hope and can put some butts in the seats that will eat up the cost of paying off Rob's contract.

Not disagreeing that attendance has and will continue to take a hit. Still puzzles me how they came up with an avg. of 15,000 this year. Wonder how much it would take to get a higher profile guy in here if this thing contniues to go south?

[Blue & Gold]

We're so bad that it's rendering GP1's interesting paradigm irrelevant. GP1's theory, IIRC, is that a new head coach has roughly 3-years to build a winning program, otherwise his chosen coordinators and assistant coaches begin to jump ship, seeing that it is taking on too much water.

However, we're so diabolically sh!tty that I don't think iCoach's staff could find other jobs if their lives depended upon it.

[g-mann17]

If you pick the right coach, a name coach (a Fickell, or Tressel, or a winning lower division coach) you create a sense of hope and can put some butts in the seats that will eat up the cost of paying off Rob's contract.

What a complete scam - Absolutely suck at your job...get fired after 2 seasons...and take $1million from UA over the next 3 seasons to NOT coach the team.

I'm in the wrong business.

I agree, all sports should have learned a long time ago to put in "outs" in their contracts. I think this constitutes failure to perform. And I think his contract is 3 with a 2 year option. So it may be a matter of only havnig to pay 1 and a half year's of salary.

At least if I wrote a contract that is how I would write it. Any school that says here's a 5 year contract, if we get rid of you before that we owe you the whole contract, is pretty dumb.

[g-mann17]

We're so bad that it's rendering GP1's interesting paradigm irrelevant. GP1's theory, IIRC, is that a new head coach has roughly 3-years to build a winning program, otherwise his chosen coordinators and assistant coaches begin to jump ship, seeing that it is taking on too much water.

However, we're so diabolically sh!tty that I don't think iCoach's staff could find other jobs if their lives depended upon it.

I would say the awfulness of the program only limits us in terms of not being able to get currently successful D-1 coaches. You aren't stealing someone from a Sun Belt or top FCS school. However I don't see why a "disgraced" hero or top D-II guy wouldn't want to come here. This is the perfect opportunity to prove yourself. You have a school that is willing to support athletics, and a community that is desperate to have something to cheer about. Look at the reaction we had from just a little bit of MAC success (10,000 people to Detroit) there were games that season where we barely got that many at the Rubber Bowl. We can get 6000 people to show up to a sport that has exceptionally low national fan following, why? Because they win.

Just looking at the reaction we got for soccer should make someone who wants to be a successful football coach jump at the opportunity.

[ZachTheZip]

Let's make a list of our top 5 candidates. Here's mine:

1. Jim Tressel - Indianapolis Colts replay booth guy

2. Paul Winters - head coach at Wayne State

3. Mark Farley - head coach at Northern Iowa

4. K.C. Keeler - head coach at Delaware

5. Andy Coen - head coach at Lehigh

I have no interest whatsoever in hiring a fourth-straight BCS assistant.

[Hilltopper]

From todays ABJ.

Barring something unforeseen, Urban Meyer will be the coach at Ohio State next year. It’s not official, though, and don’t believe anyone who tells you it is. But at this point, it certainly seems inevitable.

It’s a big victory for Ohio State, because Meyer might just be the only coach who could’ve forced Luke Fickell out of this job. Regardless of how this season ends, Fickell admirably performed the difficult task of holding this team together during perhaps the most turbulent season in school history.

As for Fickell, he will be a coach somewhere next year. Even though Rob Iannello has three years remaining on his deal, University of Akron Athletic Director Tom Wistrcill might be wise to pick up the phone and give Fickell a call.

Maybe the ABJ can help us, it seems like they agree with most ZN.O members.