Valpo Zip Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 We all want to go to the NCAA tournament but going to the NIT would be the second best thing that can happen to us. If we happen to end up in that situation (hopefully not), we will have a good chance to win it all and knock out some big names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZoner Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 10 points in an entire 1st half. By a #9 seed. Could you imagine trying to defend that selection, and seed, if it were an at-large? THAT would be silly. One game sample size. A team's performance in the tournament doesn't justify their entry into it, their regular season performance does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipboy Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 On the postgame yesterday when asked kd said if we win out and lose MAC title game, he feels that we would get an at large that our rpi and finish to the season would be to hard to ignore. I will believe it when I see it, but we should at least be in the conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 On the postgame yesterday when asked kd said if we win out and lose MAC title game, he feels that we would get an at large that our rpi and finish to the season would be to hard to ignore. I will believe it when I see it, but we should at least be in the conversation. One more time. For Akron to nab one of the handful of at large spots handed out to non BCS schools, we have to win out, lose the MACC game, and have about 15 tragic bus accidents involving other teams in our situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 From Jay Bilas : 54. Akron Zips After losing five of six early in the year, the Zips have been the winner of seven straight and 11 out of 12 -- Akron lost to VCU in overtime last month. Zeke Marshall is the best player, but there is depth and balance throughout the roster. I like this team. The wins against Mississippi State, Marshall, Ohio and Can't State will put Akron right at the bubble for discussion. Can't link it from my phone for some reason but it's his Bilas Index column. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjackson123 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 From Jay Bilas : 54. Akron Zips After losing five of six early in the year, the Zips have been the winner of seven straight and 11 out of 12 -- Akron lost to VCU in overtime last month. Zeke Marshall is the best player, but there is depth and balance throughout the roster. I like this team. The wins against Mississippi State, Marshall, Ohio and Can't State will put Akron right at the bubble for discussion. Can't link it from my phone for some reason but it's his Bilas Index column. Link wouldn't have helped anyway because its "insider". Awesome stuff though, most exciting thing I have read in awhile. Is that the first time they have been ranked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 This is the first time I've read it, so i'm not sure. Seems like we'll be in the discussion if things keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 This is the first time I've read it, so i'm not sure. Seems like we'll be in the discussion if things keep up. Bilas likes the zips. They appeared last week...around 58 I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyZip Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Maybe it is because I have never had to face anything like this before, but I find it hard to believe that if the scenario does play out and the Zips do win out besides the MACC, that they would be left out. Dayton, Xavier, Cincinnati have all fallen off the face of the earth. That can only help. EDIT: And if the Zips RPI is going to get down into the 20's...come on now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 If the Zips win out in the regular season, they would add 5 more MAC East wins and a BracketBuster win to their current 18-7 record for a final regular season record of 24-7. They wouldn't play until the semi-finals of the MAC tournament, where a win would make them 25-7. If they then lost in the MAC tournament championship game, they'd be 25-8. RPI Forecast predicts that if the Zips are 25-8 after the MAC tournament, their expected RPI would be 19.8. Obviously, that's a highly speculative number. But it does suggest that an at-large NCAA tournament bid would not be out of the question. They would have a record of 22-3 over their last 25 games of the season, and the NCAA selection committee gives more weight to teams that have performed well over the latter part of the season than the beginning of the season. Zips RPI Forecast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 If the Zips win out in the regular season, they would add 5 more MAC East wins and a BracketBuster win to their current 18-7 record for a final regular season record of 24-7. They wouldn't play until the semi-finals of the MAC tournament, where a win would make them 25-7. If they then lost in the MAC tournament championship game, they'd be 25-8. RPI Forecast predicts that if the Zips are 25-8 after the MAC tournament, their expected RPI would be 19.8. Obviously, that's a highly speculative number. But it does suggest that an at-large NCAA tournament bid would not be out of the question. They would have a record of 22-3 over their last 25 games of the season, and the NCAA selection committee gives more weight to teams that have performed well over the latter part of the season than the beginning of the season. Zips RPI Forecast From this it looks like a 24 win season almost certainly gets us into the discussion of an at-large, if not for sure a bid. If we finish the season with 24-25 wins, the projected RPI is in the top 30s-top 20s. I think the Zips are capable of an at-large. With the record we have had AFTER the first half of the season, it is just incredible what this team has accomplished. Their RPI right now is 50, but that doesn't include the NIU game. I think we are among the top mid major programs and definitely in the mix or ahead of some big names. If Bilas truly believes the Zips could be in contention, that is saying something. I respect Bilas and his opinions. I think he is a very well educated analyst who says what he believes, not what ESPN and fans wants to hear. However, I just want to win the darn tournament and have that for sure bid. I have gone through enough heart attacks in my 17 years of living and watching the Zips; I don't need a selection Sunday heart attack to add to the total. Just win the MAC tournament and you're in. Better yet, get a top 2 seed and you only have to win 2 games to repeat as MAC champions. As Larry the Cable Guy would say, "GET 'ER DONE!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class of 82 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 At this point, our RPI is as much... or even more... in the hands of the teams we have already played. We beat NIU by 24, and yet CBS (and I'm sure others) dropped us from 51 to 59, probably to Miss St. and Ohio losing games they shouldn't have. We are now 3-7 against the RPI top 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zip Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Getting Bilas to say something good about a Mid-Major is an accomplishment. He is consistently one of the voices for more teams from big conferences and less teams from Mid-Majors. I actually appreciate that he doesn't back down on this opinion and bases his opinion on the teams themselves versus the actual Mid-Major/Big School conversation. He takes it on a case by case basis and although I often feel he is wrong he is consistent. Not sure what you would expect from a Dukie though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 24 wins should get us just edged out of an at large birth by a Big Ten team that finishes with a .500 conference record. Better win the MACC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 At this point, our RPI is as much... or even more... in the hands of the teams we have already played. We beat NIU by 24, and yet CBS (and I'm sure others) dropped us from 51 to 59, probably to Miss St. and Ohio losing games they shouldn't have. We are now 3-7 against the RPI top 100. No way will the selection committee be impressed by that. And we have to have some people jumping up and down about the Zips in order for us to get a chance that we are even part of a serious discussion. Don't get me wrong. It's a step in teh right direction that we even have 10 Top-100 teams on our schedule. But, ya gotta win more than 3 of them. I'll keep repeating what I've said for weeks. With this schedule, we are 2-3 wins short of being a serious contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Sweeping the MAC West may not seem like such a big accomplishment in the big world of college basketball. But, combined with others teams losing, it was enough to move the Zips up to a projected #13 seed in the latest Lunardi bracketology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Sweeping the MAC West may not seem like such a big accomplishment in the big world of college basketball. But, combined with others teams losing, it was enough to move the Zips up to a projected #13 seed in the latest Lunardi bracketology. That's assuming we win the MACC. Wonder where he has us if we don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 24 wins should get us just edged out of an at large birth by a Big Ten team that finishes with a .500 conference record. Better win the MACC. I would think an at large birth would be painful no matter who it is coming from. Zipmeistering the Zipmeister! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I would think an at large birth would be painful no matter who it is coming from. Zipmeistering the Zipmeister! Grab the pebble from my hand Grasshopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Wouldn't it be funny if Zipmeister turned out to be George Wallace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I have been thinking about this since this thread started. I keep coming back to this: If they are "at large" I keep coming back to this in my head: Off to Dayton (part of the first four) I say this because of the conference. I know that there is no control over that, but the selection committee mite do it out of pity/spite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I have been thinking about this since this thread started. I keep coming back to this: If they are "at large" I keep coming back to this in my head: Off to Dayton (part of the first four) I say this because of the conference. I know that there is no control over that, but the selection committee mite do it out of pity/spite. or because we are a 12 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jem101 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Miss State lost once again tonight against LSU. Our premier win isn't looking as premier right now. Also, CSU lost. Neither is good for our RPI right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Miss State lost once again tonight against LSU. Our premier win isn't looking as premier right now. Also, CSU lost. Neither is good for our RPI right now. That seems to make sense. We're now down to #63 this morning. Our SOS is now 129 also, but that should improve slightly over our final stretch of games. Although I don't understand all of the inner workings of the RPI, I'm still not seeing how winning the remainder of our games could possibly put us in the 20s or 30s in RPI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 That seems to make sense. We're now down to #63 this morning. Our SOS is now 129 also, but that should improve slightly over our final stretch of games. Although I don't understand all of the inner workings of the RPI, I'm still not seeing how winning the remainder of our games could possibly put us in the 20s or 30s in RPI. Oral Roberts would be a top 50 win, Buffalo a top 100 win, K ent a top 100 win, and a win or two over Buffalo/K ent again in the tourney would definitely get us up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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