clarkwgriswold Posted November 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 On 11/7/2019 at 6:25 PM, NWAkron said: The 50 point loss to VCU didn't make you mad? How about the great Pat Forsythe? Drug dealing point guard? Harney, Gilliam, and Treadwell...all put team first, right? I watch this video and think about what happened a week later in Detroit and the two other double digit NCAA tourney losses. KD and his teams gave us a lot of fun and Akron pride, but I think it was time for him to move on. Time for Groce and his team to step up and win some big games. Expand Nope. Larry Williams bound him, gagged him, put him in his trunk and dropped him at the doors of Duquesne's gym. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) ABJ/GT: Akron vs. West Virginia "Scouting Report" These things are insulting to anyone looking for actual insight into the upcoming games. Edited November 7, 2019 by Blue & Gold 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 On 11/7/2019 at 6:25 PM, NWAkron said: The 50 point loss to VCU didn't make you mad? How about the great Pat Forsythe? Drug dealing point guard? Harney, Gilliam, and Treadwell...all put team first, right? I watch this video and think about what happened a week later in Detroit and the two other double digit NCAA tourney losses. KD and his teams gave us a lot of fun and Akron pride, but I think it was time for him to move on. Time for Groce and his team to step up and win some big games. Expand I was at that game. But it was a great season getting there. You just listed all of the negatives in 10 years. In 2 years with Groce we had one event that tops all of the above and is now in litigation. When you are looking at all the empty seats at the Jar you will see that you are clearly in the minority when you think that this program is getting better after KD left. Groce has better athletes, better defense, and a much physically stronger squad. However, last year this team could not shoot the 3 ball and the offense was horrific. Last year we had 4 centers that had no offense. I wish somebody could tell me why so many athletes have transferred out of Groce's program. I hope you are right in that Groce will have a breakout season. Maybe I am gun shy after watching football. Go Zips!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted November 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 I don't think anyone believes Groce's squads are better than KD's. Many of is do believe, however, that Groce's teams have improved every year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewbrooman1 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 12:07 PM, Blue & Gold said: The game should be streamed here; WVU's athletics website. The game is blacked out in the AT&T Sports Network viewing area. I don't know what that is but I know it's not us. Expand I'm able to watch the soccer game at the moment on the same network, so maybe the basketball game will be available, too. Can't seem to cast it to my Chromecast, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 On 11/7/2019 at 10:00 PM, clarkwgriswold said: I don't think anyone believes Groce's squads are better than KD's. Many of is do believe, however, that Groce's teams have improved every year. Expand I think he inherited a nightmare. Not being an insider, I don't know the details of KD's departure, just that he took some players with him along with some recruits. I made the point at the time that those kids were recruited with the University's money, not KD's. That being said, I give him a total pass for year one. He walking into a mess. Year two he had some holdovers and some new guys, and people transferring out. This year is his make or break year. I am not saying he has to get to the dance, but he MUST have a winning record and be competitive in the MAC. This year's freshmen were sophomores in high school when he took over. He has had the time to recruit and train a team. He needs to get it done now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted November 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 On 11/8/2019 at 2:45 AM, akronzips71 said: I think he inherited a nightmare. Not being an insider, I don't know the details of KD's departure, just that he took some players with him along with some recruits. I made the point at the time that those kids were recruited with the University's money, not KD's. That being said, I give him a total pass for year one. He walking into a mess. Year two he had some holdovers and some new guys, and people transferring out. This year is his make or break year. I am not saying he has to get to the dance, but he MUST have a winning record and be competitive in the MAC. This year's freshmen were sophomores in high school when he took over. He has had the time to recruit and train a team. He needs to get it done now. Expand That's a pretty sold assessment akronzips71. I spoke to Groce at the Ice Cream Social and told him that I appreciated how the team had steadily improved in his time here. He told me that when he was contemplating taking the job he spoke to his assistants and they all believed the team could come up to speed fairly quickly because of the core of the team left after the season. By the time they got here, they were down to 5 kids and really had to scramble. From then to now, they've steadily improved. This should be the year they start to really become competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) On 11/8/2019 at 2:45 AM, akronzips71 said: I think he inherited a nightmare. Not being an insider, I don't know the details of KD's departure, just that he took some players with him along with some recruits. I made the point at the time that those kids were recruited with the University's money, not KD's. That being said, I give him a total pass for year one. He walking into a mess. Year two he had some holdovers and some new guys, and people transferring out. This year is his make or break year. I am not saying he has to get to the dance, but he MUST have a winning record and be competitive in the MAC. This year's freshmen were sophomores in high school when he took over. He has had the time to recruit and train a team. He needs to get it done now. Expand This is about as accurate an assessment as you can make. Well said. When you look at the past couple of seasons, we've been a couple made shots away from flipping the records. The biggest thing I appreciate from Groce's teams thus far is their commitment to the defensive side of the ball. I think we took for granted last year what it meant to have a top 25 defense IN THE COUNTRY. It's an aspect of basketball that is quietly disappearing as AAU continues to promote offensive stat sheets over basketball fundamentals. Hopefully the shots fall this season as we continue to commit to high-intensity defense. We'll see tonight pretty quickly if this team has bought in from the get-go, or if we'll need 2 months of OOC basketball to develop the commitment to the fundamentals we've seen in recent seasons. If WVU doesn't get you amped up, sheesh. On 11/8/2019 at 1:25 PM, clarkwgriswold said: That's a pretty sold assessment akronzips71. I spoke to Groce at the Ice Cream Social and told him that I appreciated how the team had steadily improved in his time here. He told me that when he was contemplating taking the job he spoke to his assistants and they all believed the team could come up to speed fairly quickly because of the core of the team left after the season. By the time they got here, they were down to 5 kids and really had to scramble. From then to now, they've steadily improved. This should be the year they start to really become competitive. Expand Wow. Thanks for that insight. I wonder if other coaches trust previous players to stay through a coaching change when they take over the program. I'd have to imagine Parrish was one of the key pieces. Edited November 8, 2019 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipsVoice Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 On 11/8/2019 at 2:45 AM, akronzips71 said: That being said, I give him a total pass for year one. He walking into a mess. Expand Right.......a little hypocritical since you started a football thread about a first year coach who inherited a mess with: "Can we please fire this "coach"? Not at the end of the season. NOW." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted November 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 On 11/8/2019 at 1:59 PM, ZipsVoice said: Right.......a little hypocritical since you started a football thread about a first year coach who inherited a mess with: "Can we please fire this "coach"? Not at the end of the season. NOW." Expand You owe me for the Coke I just sprayed all over my monitor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipsVoice Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 On 11/8/2019 at 2:56 PM, clarkwgriswold said: You owe me for the Coke I just sprayed all over my monitor. Expand I'll get you a 2-liter..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronAlumnus Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 I think Akron has a chance to make this a very close game.. The Zips have a tendency to play good teams very well. (look at last year when they almost beat #16 Clemson and #7 Nevada). Upon looking at the big 12 power rankings WVU is among the bottom half of the teams, therefore, they may not be as good as many commentators (mainly ESPN) are predicting. In addition to their low ranking, they're also going to be playing their first game, as a result, they may be rusty and come out of the gate slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) On 11/8/2019 at 1:59 PM, ZipsVoice said: Right.......a little hypocritical since you started a football thread about a first year coach who inherited a mess with: "Can we please fire this "coach"? Not at the end of the season. NOW." Expand As usual you blow more hot air than Adam Sciff Arth walked into a program that had recently been to bowl games and MAC championship games. Bowden did not take players and recruits with him. Bowden won 4 games his last season. Groce's team last year just could not close. They were in most games, and did not finish. And as stated he only started his first year with 5 returning players. Of course, you know that Groce was a successful coach in the MAC and was a Big 10 coach. Yet you compare him to Arth who has no business being in D1. Get off that soapbox. Edited November 8, 2019 by akronzips71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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clarkwgriswold Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 Link to stream- https://wvusports.com/watch/?Live=3775&type=Live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 On 11/9/2019 at 12:05 AM, clarkwgriswold said: Link to stream- https://wvusports.com/watch/?Live=3775&type=Live Expand I'm not able to access the stream. Says it's premium content. Also, 1350 is airing the Hoban football game. !*%$&#! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 LCJ, Cheese, Banks, X and Recce the starting 5 tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 On 11/9/2019 at 12:07 AM, Blue & Gold said: I'm not able to access the stream. Says it's premium content. Also, 1350 is airing the Hoban football game. !*%$&#! Expand Go to the WVU athletic site and follow the links through the schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 Stream is working fine for me. I think i had to disable adblocker though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 Hmm. I was able to watch the soccer game last night but I can't get tonight's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 On 11/9/2019 at 12:07 AM, Blue & Gold said: I'm not able to access the stream. Says it's premium content. Also, 1350 is airing the Hoban football game. !*%$&#! Expand I'm having the same issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 11-5 Zips, 15:56. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 I'm getting premium content. Tried to sign up, it was charging me $0, but then wouldn't process the payment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewbrooman1 Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) I'm watching the stream. Not great, but good enough. Linked through the WVU basketball site. It's free. Edited November 9, 2019 by ewbrooman1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 On 11/9/2019 at 12:13 AM, Let'sGoZips94 said: I'm getting premium content. Tried to sign up, it was charging me $0, but then wouldn't process the payment. Expand That's precisely what happened when I gave it a try. I was willing to sign up & pay $$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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