Games 11 and 12- DC Holiday Hoops Fest Tournament

[kreed5120]

1 hour ago, Illini Zip said:

I'm sorry, I just don't have any faith in the NET rankings yet. Maybe it's effective late in the season, but I'm not even sure about that. I will stay with Kenpom for now.

 

NET rankings are much more sensitive at this time of year compared to Kenpom as it doesn't have preseason expectations built into the model. Kent lost last night on a neutral court to a UC Irvine team that would place in the upper half of the MAC and it still led to them falling 32 spots. Kent fell maybe 5 spots in Kenpom over that same loss. Kenpom is the more proven and likely accurate measurement of whose better than who. That being said when it comes to seeding and such for the NCAA tournament, the NET rankings is what the committee looks at, not Kenpom so it's still worth looking at. 

[Let'sGoZips94]

I'm always leery of ranking systems created by committees in charge of essentially delivering cash flow for the NCAA. Then again, any system that has Can't falling 32 spots... I might reconsider. ?

Edited December 18, 2019 by Let'sGoZips94

[clarkwgriswold]

I don't put a whole lot of faith in any ranking system this early in the mix.  The sample size is just to small and players are still getting the feel for each other.

[The Hip Zip]

One ranking I do take stock in at this point is the strength of schedule. This site that I frequently visit has the Green Wave sitting at # 349. Only 4 teams have a lesser rank.

 

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/rpi-ranking/sos-rpi-rating-by-team

 

I expect the Zips to be favored in this one by 6-8 points or so.  A good effort from our guys wins this game fairly comfortably. 

[kreed5120]

25 minutes ago, The Hip Zip said:

One ranking I do take stock in at this point is the strength of schedule. This site that I frequently visit has the Green Wave sitting at # 349. Only 4 teams have a lesser rank.

 

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/rpi-ranking/sos-rpi-rating-by-team

 

I expect the Zips to be favored in this one by 6-8 points or so.  A good effort from our guys wins this game fairly comfortably. 

 

SOS can be a little misleading. It doesn't factor non-D1 games into the equation. EMU has played 3 of those games thus far. Tulane has actually played 0 of those games. Sure Alcorn State & SE Louisiana are terrible teams, but they're still better than D2 and NAIA teams. Tulane could quickly improve their SOS by dropping those low D1 opponents and schedule 2-3 D2 teams instead.

[NWAkron]

Zips open as 4.5 favorites v The Green Wave.

[Let'sGoZips94]

Pardon the potential KSUcks-level question here, but has anyone looked into the FloHoops subscription for these 2 games? If I do the "Yearly" plan, is it a monthly payment of $12.50 until I cancel? Or am I locked into paying the full $150 no matter when I cancel?

 

From the website...

 

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[Blue & Gold]

You can cancel after one month.  I subscribed for one month to watch the football team at UMass, IIRC.  

[Blue & Gold]

Oh, sh!t!!  I think I just signed up for the yearly subscription rather than for one month!!!  I'm pissed!!! ????

[zippy5]

Flo started with wrestling and is a decent site there because there's really nothing else that covers it in any depth (my cousin wrestles at OSU). They've jacked prices up and cover anything with a pay wall now. Heck, their rankings are the rankings used by the NCAA for wrestling and you can't even see them unless you pay. So while it may be worth it if you're a wrestling fan or another niche sport they cover.. 12.50 for hoops when ESPN+ is 5 or 6 bucks a month is just insane. That's my flo soapbox. If you can cancel it, I suppose you can't put a price on watching the Zips ?

[Let'sGoZips94]

18 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

You can cancel after one month.  I subscribed for one month to watch the football team at UMass, IIRC.  

 

Did you mean to do the monthly? So the yearly locks you in for the full $150?

[Blue & Gold]

10 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Did you mean to do the monthly? So the yearly locks you in for the full $150?

I meant to do the monthly but wasn't paying close enough attention.  The monthly rate is, what, $30/month where the yearly rate is 12.50/month.  I clicked the $12.50/month without looking closely enough.  After I subscribed the note said something along the lines of "Your yearly subscription will be billed once-per-year."  

 

And btw, the 2:30 start time on GoZips dot com may be a typo.  FLO Sports is saying they don't begin streaming the DC Classic till 3:30.

Edited December 20, 2019 by Blue & Gold

[Let'sGoZips94]

2 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

I meant to do the monthly but wasn't paying close enough attention.  The monthly rate is, what, $30/month where the yearly rate is 12.50/month.  I clicked the $12.50/month without looking closely enough.  After I subscribed the note said something along the lines of "Your yearly subscription will be billed once-per-year."  

 

And btw, the 2:30 start time on the GoZips dot com web sight may be a typo.  FLO Sports is saying they don't begin streaming the DC Classic till 3:30.

 

That's the answer I was looking for. Thank you. Looks like it's Frenchy for me. I would contact FLO and let them know your error, see if there's anything they can do.

 

This is why we can't have nice things. 

[Blue & Gold]

Just a little public service announcement, the Lady Zippers are going to be on FLO Sports at 11:00 a.m.  They're participating the Puerto Rico Classic.

[Let'sGoZips94]

9 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

Just a little public service announcement, the Lady Zippers are going to be on FLO Sports at 11:00 a.m.  They're participating the Puerto Rico Classic.

 

"Damnit FLO, you tricked me. But I'm going to get my $150 worth. Lady Zips on at 11, DIII Men's Volleyball at 1. That should carry me to the Zips/Tulane game at 2:30 unless GoZips.com screwed up and it's actually a 3:30 tip. Hmmmm... Ah! NAIA Grass Growing & Paint Drying simultaneously at 2:15 just in case. Perfect." - @Blue & Gold (probably)

[NWAkron]

Game is @2.30 per ESPN and the tourney website.  Dawson seen in DC.

[Blue & Gold]

FLO Sports has updated their listed start time to 2:30.

[AkronAlumnus]

BEAT TULANE 

[blueandgold]

Any updates?

[Let'sGoZips94]

10-9 Akron at the 14:21 mark. Sloppy on both sides for the most part. 

[MDZip]

Google Update has a little more info than the ESPN Gamecast. 

 

Zips up 13-10, 11:31 remaining. Banks Reece Jackson Williams and Cheese appear to be the starting five. 

Edited December 20, 2019 by MDZip

[Let'sGoZips94]

22-12 Akron. Just under 9 minutes to play in the first half. 

[MDZip]

Zips on a bit of a run 22-12 with 9:04 left in the half. Jackson the leading scorer with 9, followed by Banks with 4. 

Edited December 20, 2019 by MDZip

[MDZip]

26-19 Zips 4:33 left

[MDZip]

Tulane climbing back in, 28-23 with two minutes left. Everyone who as played for the Zips has scored. Riak, Tribble and Ali on the board.

Edited December 20, 2019 by MDZip