zipsoutsider Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 https://twitter.com/FootballScoop/status/1496479207744065543 @FootballScoop: New proposal would allow for joint practices in fall camp https://t.co/6dF1lbqw8D via @zach_barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips86 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Interesting. Kind of cool, I didn't read (yet) so not sure what any negatives of this could be, if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 minute ago, GoZips86 said: Interesting. Kind of cool, I didn't read (yet) so not sure what any negatives of this could be, if any. I'd imagine any negatives would mirror that of joint practices in the NFL. To me, those negatives are minimal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips86 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: I'd imagine any negatives would mirror that of joint practices in the NFL. To me, those negatives are minimal. I agree! I think this would be beneficial for many programs out there, including Akron. I like the idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 as long as we're practicing with an OSU or Pitt and not Kent or OU or something.. I like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) I come from this as I do from every angle. How would it directly benefit the athletes, students, alumni, fans and general communities around G5 schools? My assumption is, like all decisions G5 schools make, the driving force behind this is to pad the resumes of athletic directors and conference leaders at the expense of their employers. They will do this by whoring themselves to P5 schools and ESPN. The ESPN part is easy. They have plenty air time to fill in August. There is no doubt in my mind this will result in every one these practices being played at a P5 school. So, back to my five pillars. 1. Plus. Athletes would benefit from the break up of training camp. For a day for 45 minutes. I'll stick with the plus. 2. Minus. Students will not be attending these games. 3. Minus. Benefit to alumni. Games played on the road in August cuts into vacation time and budding school activities. Besides, this is even worse trash entertainment than the college football playoffs. 4. Minus. Fans get fed crap and really can't attend the games. 5. Minus. General communities benefit. Since games will not be played at G5 schools, the communities can't benefit. Plus = 1 Minus = 4. This is a terrible idea that solves a non-existent problem for G5 schools. Further, it is a distraction from real problems. Edited February 23, 2022 by GP1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 games? i think you need to re-read the topic at hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 "Joint practice" means nothing more than a scrimmage versus another team. Since the article limits the sphere to the MAC, I suspect it means MAC teams scrimmaging each other. What is to be gained by that? I'm not sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips86 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, Z.I.P. said: "Joint practice" means nothing more than a scrimmage versus another team. Since the article limits the sphere to the MAC, I suspect it means MAC teams scrimmaging each other. What is to be gained by that? I'm not sure... I think practicing against another team and their offense/defense can go a long way for the guys as they probably get used to the speed/strength/whatever of the fellow Zip they are going against on an almost daily basis. Also, a change of scenery is an underrated thing, even for a practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, GP1 said: I come from this as I do from every angle. How would it directly benefit the athletes, students, alumni, fans and general communities around G5 schools? My assumption is, like all decisions G5 schools make, the driving force behind this is to pad the resumes of athletic directors and conference leaders at the expense of their employers. They will do this by whoring themselves to P5 schools and ESPN. The ESPN part is easy. They have plenty air time to fill in August. There is no doubt in my mind this will result in every one these practices being played at a P5 school. So, back to my five pillars. 1. Plus. Athletes would benefit from the break up of training camp. For a day for 45 minutes. I'll stick with the plus. 2. Minus. Students will not be attending these games. 3. Minus. Benefit to alumni. Games played on the road in August cuts into vacation time and budding school activities. Besides, this is even worse trash entertainment than the college football playoffs. 4. Minus. Fans get fed crap and really can't attend the games. 5. Minus. General communities benefit. Since games will not be played at G5 schools, the communities can't benefit. Plus = 1 Minus = 4. This is a terrible idea that solves a non-existent problem for G5 schools. Further, it is a distraction from real problems. If it benefits the team and is a contributing factor to a successful season, wouldn't that negate the 4 negatives considering regular season success will be more beneficial for students/fans/community? Furthermore, I'd imagine there is money to be made traveling to P5s for these things, and visibility with recruiting could be a bonus. Edited February 23, 2022 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: If it benefits the team and is a contributing factor to a successful season, wouldn't that negate the 4 negatives considering regular season success will be more beneficial for students/fans/community? Furthermore, I'd imagine there is money to be made traveling to P5s for these things, and visibility with recruiting could be a bonus. It appears we can add you to the majority of posters on this thread who have not read the incredibly short blurb to which the link will take the interested reader. Once there, you will note there is absolutely no mention of any P5 participation or games in that link. Am I missing something you guys have seen elsewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Zipmeister said: It appears we can add you to the majority of posters on this thread who have not read the incredibly short blurb to which the link will take the interested reader. Once there, you will note there is absolutely no mention of any P5 participation or games in that link. Am I missing something you guys have seen elsewhere? This might make me an ass, but I'm simply assuming this won't be restricted to in-conference teams. The closest school to us is our biggest rival. Do you really foresee Akron & KSUcks doing joint practices? The NFL, to my knowledge, does not do in-division joint practices; teams go outside of their division for these types of practices. This is done for a reason. Akron & Pitt, Akron & Ohio State, Akron & West Virginia, Akron & Cincinnati, Akron & Kentucky, Akron & Marshall, Akron & Louisville - these make more sense. P5s are going to see G5s as a lesser threat in a "scrimmage", and G5s are going to view P5s as better prep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips86 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) I don't think this is as complicated as some are making this out to be. A practice against a group of guys and play calls you don't see on a daily basis during spring camp benefits everyone. I don't think anyone is searching for TV deals and stuff, I think everyone is aware that the players can benefit from a practice against someone other than the same CB you've been battling with for the past month, who may even be your own roommate lol. Edited February 23, 2022 by GoZips86 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Cost prohibitive. But, if it is somehow feasible, getting a preseason scrimmage under the belt is long over due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94zipgrad Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 55 minutes ago, GoZips86 said: I don't think this is as complicated as some are making this out to be. A practice against a group of guys and play calls you don't see on a daily basis during spring camp benefits everyone. I don't think anyone is searching for TV deals and stuff, I think everyone is aware that the players can benefit from a practice against someone other than the same CB you've been battling with for the past month, who may even be your own roommate lol. It’s fall camp, so if you read the article it would be one of the 18 days of full practice following the full contact guidelines against another team, that’s it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, GoZips86 said: I don't think this is as complicated as some are making this out to be. A practice against a group of guys and play calls you don't see on a daily basis during spring camp benefits everyone. I don't think anyone is searching for TV deals and stuff, I think everyone is aware that the players can benefit from a practice against someone other than the same CB you've been battling with for the past month, who may even be your own roommate lol. 11 minutes ago, 94zipgrad said: It’s fall camp, so if you read the article it would be one of the 18 days of full practice following the full contact guidelines against another team, that’s it If you read the article, it says the MAC is asking the NCAA to allow FBS teams to have one of these joint practices/scrimmages. It says nothing about in-conference only, nor should this be done in-conference. The article cites the NFL, which does not do in-division joint practices. Reading between the lines, this means we will be looking to team up with non-MAC FBS teams. Akron & Pitt, Akron & Ohio State, Akron & West Virginia, Akron & Cincinnati, Akron & Kentucky, Akron & Marshall, Akron & Louisville - these are who come to mind. WKU, Indiana, etc., are a little further away options. Recruiting exposure comes from the articles that are written. "Ohio State set for joint practice with Akron." Get your name out there more and more. Edited February 24, 2022 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94zipgrad Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: If you read the article, it says the MAC is asking the NCAA to allow FBS teams to have one of these joint practices/scrimmages. It says nothing about in-conference only, nor should this be done in-conference. The article cites the NFL, which does not do in-division joint practices. Reading between the lines, this means we will be looking to team up with non-MAC FBS teams. Akron & Pitt, Akron & Ohio State, Akron & West Virginia, Akron & Cincinnati, Akron & Kentucky, Akron & Marshall, Akron & Louisville - these are who come to mind. WKU, Indiana, etc., are a little further away options. Recruiting exposure comes from the articles that are written. "Ohio State set for joint practice with Akron." Get your name out there more and more. I agree, your not gonna practice against someone you play, but it’s a practice that probably won’t be open to anyone, it’s really not a big deal, it’s a chance to see your team against someone other than another teammate, the level of play might be a little more competitive, all good things, but not much for us to get excited about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Furthermore, I'd imagine there is money to be made traveling to P5s for these things, and visibility with recruiting could be a bonus. Exposure!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 8 hours ago, zippy5 said: games? i think you need to re-read the topic at hand All you need is a clock, two teams, referees and a scoreboard for a game. They will have all of these items there. They will absolutely be games since there are really no rules around these practices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips86 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, GP1 said: All you need is a clock, two teams, referees and a scoreboard for a game. They will have all of these items there. They will absolutely be games since there are really no rules around these practices. Lol you must be a lawyer.... (and that's not an attack, I work in the field) Edited February 24, 2022 by GoZips86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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