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7 hours ago, ZipsBBjunkie said:

I think it would be fun for my kid 

There's always the law of unintended consequences. It could be a lot of vomit to clean up in the car after the ride home. 

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2 hours ago, GP1 said:

There's always the law of unintended consequences. It could be a lot of vomit to clean up in the car after the ride home. 

 

I'm not letting them pig out, but saving $20-30 on some hot dogs, a popcorn, and some pretzels is a very nice offer. I'd definitely be more willing to bring my family to games knowing there won't be an additional cost to the $50+ spent on tickets. 

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I was listening to ESPNU in XM this morning. The two dimwits that come on before full ride were talking about spring practice and how the NCAA made a mistake by not allowing colleges to practice and play against one another. It was like listening to the morons 25 years ago who convinced universities to bankrupt themselves for athletics. They pulled out the same old arguments about the money spent would be an investment because the "exposure" would pay for it. They even pulled out one of the newest arguments that is complete crap but is a buzzword these days..... the scrimmages would reduce injury. I'd say more of the arguments, but we've heard them a thousand times. 

 

The bottom line is this. If colleges eliminated spring practice, they would be doing everyone a favor, including fans. It's horrible entertainment and any decent player isn't really put through the paces because they a fearful of injury.

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2 hours ago, GP1 said:

I was listening to ESPNU in XM this morning. The two dimwits that come on before full ride were talking about spring practice and how the NCAA made a mistake by not allowing colleges to practice and play against one another. It was like listening to the morons 25 years ago who convinced universities to bankrupt themselves for athletics. They pulled out the same old arguments about the money spent would be an investment because the "exposure" would pay for it. They even pulled out one of the newest arguments that is complete crap but is a buzzword these days..... the scrimmages would reduce injury. I'd say more of the arguments, but we've heard them a thousand times. 

 

The bottom line is this. If colleges eliminated spring practice, they would be doing everyone a favor, including fans. It's horrible entertainment and any decent player isn't really put through the paces because they a fearful of injury.

Yeah, Danny Kanell is a former FSU QB. He is also a complete douchebag. I refuse to listen to anything he does.

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On 3/31/2025 at 5:09 PM, ZipsBBjunkie said:

Well here’s what I call a fan-friendly promotion!

 

 

 

This is the type of thing Akron should consider. The cost of these concession items are all dirt cheap to make. It would absolutely draw students and families more. 

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I'd do it for the Spring game, or practice. Leave the fans feeling good about Zip football for a change. It sure as hell wouldn't cost much and would be a good test. Do something different for a change.

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Coastal Carolina single game tickets are close to $30 for their cheapest seat if I recall. Akron's is something like $15. It's not just the cost of a hot dog and a bun to consider. Those people working the concession stands, working the gates, security, and other game day personnel cost money. We're already losing money hosting games. Giving away unlimited free food just puts us further into the hole.

 

If they wanted to add $5, $10 loaded value to tickets that way someone could use it to buy a beer and/or a hot dog then sure. Akron just doesn't charge enough for their tickets to also be serving as a Golden Corral. Besides, isn't that supposed to be one of the perks of club seats? If you provide that same service to all the fans, suddenly some may begin to ask why they're paying $150 (or whatever they cost) a game for their tickets.

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2 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

Coastal Carolina single game tickets are close to $30 for their cheapest seat if I recall. Akron's is something like $15. It's not just the cost of a hot dog and a bun to consider. Those people working the concession stands, working the gates, security, and other game day personnel cost money. We're already losing money hosting games. Giving away unlimited free food just puts us further into the hole.

 

If they wanted to add $5, $10 loaded value to tickets that way someone could use it to buy a beer and/or a hot dog then sure. Akron just doesn't charge enough for their tickets to also be serving as a Golden Corral. Besides, isn't that supposed to be one of the perks of club seats? If you provide that same service to all the fans, suddenly some may begin to ask why they're paying $150 (or whatever they cost) a game for their tickets.

I wonder if we do lose money hosting games. Wouldn’t think it would be that expensive.

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11 minutes ago, LZIp said:

I wonder if we do lose money hosting games. Wouldn’t think it would be that expensive.

I believe the athletic department is charged something like $4 million for the stadium while the school pays the rest. If you take $4 million and divide it by the 5 home games (which is what we typically host), we need to generate $800k revenue per home game just to pay the mortgage. I wouldn't even begin to guess what the other costs add up to.

 

I feel a lot depends on what costs you choose to include or exclude. If you include stadium costs, we're in deep red. If you exclude it, someone who actually seen the books would have to weigh in. 

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24 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

I believe the athletic department is charged something like $4 million for the stadium while the school pays the rest. If you take $4 million and divide it by the 5 home games (which is what we typically host), we need to generate $800k revenue per home game just to pay the mortgage. I wouldn't even begin to guess what the other costs add up to.

 

I feel a lot depends on what costs you choose to include or exclude. If you include stadium costs, we're in deep red. If you exclude it, someone who actually seen the books would have to weigh in. 

Yeah makes sense. I’d personally exclude the stadium. Also don’t think entire cost should get allocated to football team if you do include it.

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9 minutes ago, LZIp said:

Also don’t think entire cost should get allocated to football team if you do include it.

I was puzzled by this statement until I remembered Akron added lacrosse. That's a fair statement and not something that I factored in.

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It's almost as if you could run a test to see if giving away Item X for nothing would draw a bigger crowd than giving away Item Y for nothing. 

 

Instead of giving away food in order to sell tickets, couldn't you give away tickets to sell food? Is the goal of the promotion to move food or move people to the game? If the goal is to move people from their living rooms to the game, incentivise the ticket and not the food. Once get someone into the stadium, you have them captive. Heck, college football games last forever now. It isn't unreasonable to assume that at some point during the marathon game experience someone is going to get hungry or thirsty. 

 

I don't know if this could be a lost leader strategy or not, because the lost leader strategy assumes a profit will be made. It's sort of like one though. 

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1 hour ago, kreed5120 said:

Tennessee QB is holding out of camp as he's wanting his pay increased from $2.4 million to $4 million. 

 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/44630900/qb-nico-iamaleava-skips-vols-practice-amid-nil-talks-sources-say

Thanks for posting this. I have no problem with what he is doing and found myself shrugging my shoulders when I saw it. Heck, a part of me hopes he gets a raise. Look, college athletics are now minor league professional sports. This happens in professional sports and the vast majority of the time nobody really cares after the compensation is renegotiated. Oh well.....

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6 hours ago, zipsrule said:

 

Really good move by Tennessee IMO. Tennessee's offense ranked 9th in the SEC and he barely surpassed 100 passing yards in the playoffs. I'd be surprised if anyone gives him $4 million this late into the recruiting process.

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3 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

 

Really good move by Tennessee IMO. Tennessee's offense ranked 9th in the SEC and he barely surpassed 100 passing yards in the playoffs. I'd be surprised if anyone gives him $4 million this late into the recruiting process.

I question if anyone is going to give him 2+ million Tennessee was going to give him.

 

He pulled an NFL style holdout and it failed miserably.

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1 hour ago, zipsrule said:

I question if anyone is going to give hime 2+ million Tennessee was going to give him.

 

He pulled an NFL style holdout and it failed miserably.

 

That was kind of my thought process as well. He's going to be worth more to Tennessee than anyone else as he'll have to go in and learn an entirely new playbook. Perhaps even a new offense.

 

Had he just transferred back in January he wouldn't be so far behind. Now he's playing catch up and many of the teams that would be willing to spend $2+ million on a QB already have a QB they're okay going into the season with.

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