The World of College Football

[kreed5120]

4 minutes ago, zippy5 said:

because the old championship week is now standalone Army/Navy week 

 

I guess I haven't seen anything that confirmed this. Was there a report that I missed? Why couldn't MAC play that weekend?

[kreed5120]

I will say I called Steinbrecher a company man, which I still believe, but I will acknowledge he did come out vocally against the G6 only getting 1 spot in a field of 24.

 

All the other G6 commissioners seem to be falling inline claiming it will be great for them.

[zippy5]

9 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

I guess I haven't seen anything that confirmed this. Was there a report that I missed? Why couldn't MAC play that weekend?

I guess I could have misinterpreted the initial press release as "standalone" and maybe that was just in reference to CFP and no CFP games would be happening during Army Navy week. So, theoretically G6 championship games could happen that night or at Noon, I don't see any of them wanting to play the same time as Army Navy though. 

[kreed5120]

4 minutes ago, zippy5 said:

So, theoretically G6 championship games could happen that night or at Noon, I don't see any of them wanting to play the same time as Army Navy though. 

I would think that would be the most likely scenario if games are played. They very well could have been cancelled too. I haven't seen anyone talk about it.

[UAZipster0305]

3 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

I will say I called Steinbrecher a company man, which I still believe, but I will acknowledge he did come out vocally against the G6 only getting 1 spot in a field of 24.

 

All the other G6 commissioners seem to be falling inline claiming it will be great for them.

Agreed. This  is an insult. Anything less than all G6 conference champions getting a slot in the expanded playoff is a travesty. In essence, G6 teams start the season with no theoretical chance of competing for the national championship. That's not competition, it's abuse.

[kreed5120]

17 minutes ago, UAZipster0305 said:

Agreed. This  is an insult. Anything less than all G6 conference champions getting a slot in the expanded playoff is a travesty. In essence, G6 teams start the season with no theoretical chance of competing for the national championship. That's not competition, it's abuse.

 

I would have taken 3 G6 teams making it with all 6 G6 champions playing during what is currently the conference championship week as a theoretical play-in game to determine which 3 make it. That would at least create a path for all teams.

[kreed5120]

If these numbers are remotely accurate the G6 needs to organize this immediately. Since ESPN/ABC have a monopoly on college football in December/January you would think they would provide some alternative programming for Fox, CBS, NBC, etc.

 

https://x.com/KcSmurthwaite/status/2120210772072579431?a=-VUW2UiSlF-xz5qQZCg&s=19

[UAZipster0305]

1 hour ago, kreed5120 said:

 

I would have taken 3 G6 teams making it with all 6 G6 champions playing during what is currently the conference championship week as a theoretical play-in game to determine which 3 make it. That would at least create a path for all teams.

You are entitled to your opinion. I however disagree.

 

Any arrangement that puts a handicap on or suggests that G6 teams are lesser than the P4 is unjust. David vs. Goliath on the basketball court and David winning is/was the fascination with the NCAA basketball tournament.

 

It is not too much to expect that an analogous format be replicated for football. That is, all conference champions make the tournament and are not subject to play-in games (or at least with basketball, they didn't used to be).

[kreed5120]

2 minutes ago, UAZipster0305 said:

You are entitled to your opinion. I however disagree.

 

Any arrangement that puts a handicap on or suggests that G6 teams are lesser than the P4 is unjust. David vs. Goliath on the basketball court and David winning is/was the fascination with the NCAA basketball tournament.

 

It is not too much to expect that an analogous format be replicated for football. That is, all conference champions make the tournament and are not subject to play-in games (or at least with basketball, they didn't used to be).

 

It's not that I disagree with you. In a perfect world that would be the outcome. We're just long past the point of college athletics being just. Don't let perfection get in the way of progress.

Edited 2 hours ago by kreed5120

[UAZipster0305]

3 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

It's not that I disagree with you. In a perfect world that would be the outcome. We're just long past the point of college athletics being just. Don't let perfection get in the way of progress.

Fair point. I just don't see it as progress. I think it reinforces the status quo of the haves and the have nots.

[exit322]

29 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

If these numbers are remotely accurate the G6 needs to organize this immediately. Since ESPN/ABC have a monopoly on college football in December/January you would think they would provide some alternative programming for Fox, CBS, NBC, etc.

 

https://x.com/KcSmurthwaite/status/2120210772072579431?a=-VUW2UiSlF-xz5qQZCg&s=19

 

And it'd probably be worth more if they took *ALL* G6 teams (instead of giving the sacrificial lamb for the 9-seed).  This is something that should absolutely be sprinted towards if this is real.

 

And the commentary about "the bowls can be kept," na'ah.  Home games until the title game of this 24-team playoff.  And maybe even a home game then.

[kreed5120]

19 minutes ago, UAZipster0305 said:

Fair point. I just don't see it as progress. I think it reinforces the status quo of the haves and the have nots.

 

The existing system only allowed for 1 realistically most years so that precedence was already set. Getting 3 bids with all 6 champs having a pathway to make the field would therefore be progress, but we can agree to disagree.

[exit322]

2 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

The existing system only allowed for 1 realistically most years so that precedence was already set. Getting 3 bids with all 6 champs having a pathway to make the field would therefore be progress, but we can agree to disagree.

 

100% this is progress

 

But I'd rather have a G6 playoff (WITH HOME GAMES FOR HIGHER SEEDS) and they can keep their 24-team B1GSEC Invitational.

[UAZipster0305]

4 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

The existing system only allowed for 1 realistically most years so that precedence was already set. Getting 3 bids with all 6 champs having a pathway to make the field would therefore be progress, but we can agree to disagree.

Agree to disagree. I understand your perspective, and it is valid.

 

I just think the system is at a point where the G6 need to either demand equality or formally create their own subdivision with its own playoff system. There are more than enough G6 teams to do this, and I personally would find it more compelling competition.

Edited 2 hours ago by UAZipster0305

[kreed5120]

8 minutes ago, UAZipster0305 said:

Agree to disagree. I understand your perspective, and it is valid.

 

I just think the system is at a point where the G6 need to either demand equality or formally create their own subdivision with its own playoff system. There are more than enough G6 teams to do this, and I personally would find it more compelling competition.

 

I would prefer the G6 playoff as well as frankly going to the CFP and losing by 30 in the first round, like Tulane did, doesn't feel all that exciting.

 

It will be a challenge to get programs like Boise State on board with this as they legimately feel they have the ability to make a run and to their credit they're one of the few G6 programs that probably could.

[UAZipster0305]

25 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

I would prefer the G6 playoff as well as frankly going to the CFP and losing by 30 in the first round, like Tulane did, doesn't feel all that exciting.

 

It will be a challenge to get programs like Boise State on board with this as they legimately feel they have the ability to make a run and to their credit they're one of the few G6 programs that probably could.

Boise State hasn't performed like a true G6 in more than twenty years. They deserve to at least be in the ACC or Big 12 based on their football performance. I'd be okay with them wanting to migrate to a commensurate level. As it is now, I would understand their objection, but they might be the only G6 school in this predicament.

Edited 1 hour ago by UAZipster0305

[Reslife4Life]

This whole thing sucks. As a current Akron football fan, does it really change anything for us? I don't think so, UA was never making the playoff before and they aren't going to any time soon. If they do eliminate the MAC title game that will be a big blow. Yes the fans are still going to watch and that will give the people at the top more money, that was never in doubt, but these people really couldn't put the greed aside and realize that it really dilutes their product?

 

Complaints from the 5 seed in the 4 team playoff, the P4 team that got left out when 2 G5 teams made it last year, etc. Those complaints in the moment do not reflect the views of the fans, players, coaches, and universities. Any "progress" made by college football in the last 10, 20, probably 50 years has always made fans wish for the "old days". But fans adapt to what the current situation is because of the love of their schools.

 

No one in this forum is going to stop watching or caring about akron football (even if we all claim we will multiple times per year). People like sports and there is almost nothing anyone can do to get people to stop caring, so that just allows these people to do whatever the hell they want to enrich themselves. As much as I say I hate the new format, I bet my wife hates it even more because it means even more time the TV is tuned to football.