Staying Close to the Vest - Coach Groce-related News and Views

[zippy5]

These are real sources this time 

[zippy5]

If we lose him on a lateral move like this everyone in the university above Groce should be fired. This can't happen 

[Westie]

Will Dustin Ford succeed him? Is that the best case scenario?

[ZipsBBjunkie]

5 minutes ago, ZippyRulz said:

 

I don't know what VR said about Akron and Kent but suspect he's talking about some kind of merger.

 

I started a separate thread on the VR stuff under University news 

[Zippy87]

3 minutes ago, zippy5 said:

If we lose him on a lateral move like this everyone in the university above Groce should be fired. This can't happen 

 

Hard to say without knowing the ask. The USF thing seems to be legit - that they offered him but moved on after he asked too much. Maybe he's doing that at UA. Or maybe he is trying to leverage UA into increased support. 

 

3 minutes ago, Westie said:

Will Dustin Ford succeed him? Is that the best case scenario?

 

Ford has been with Groce every coaching stop since OU. I'd suspect he would follow him to Charleston. But I'd absolutely offer him the job. Best chance at continuity of the established culture and players seem to really respect him. 

[Zippy87]

I know, Samurai again, but...

 

 

[kreed5120]

13 minutes ago, Zippy87 said:

 

Ford has been with Groce every coaching stop since OU. I'd suspect he would follow him to Charleston. But I'd absolutely offer him the job. Best chance at continuity of the established culture and players seem to really respect him. 

 

I will say Ford was still kind of an unknown and wasn't even the top assistant when Groce left OU. He wasn't going to be offered that job. No way was he going to be offered the Illini job. Butler could have paid him as much, if not more, to be an assistant. Akron can pay him a lot more to be head coach than CoC can pay him to be an assistant.

[Westie]

My understanding is Ford has a lot of good relationships including with the money end of things. So if Groce leaves and Ford stays, that’s a good outcome.

 

 

[kreed5120]

What's overlooked is we're about to lose @Illini Zip

[Westie]

 

[ZipsBBjunkie]

2 minutes ago, Westie said:

 

Westie catch up 

Edited Saturday at 08:33 PM by ZipsBBjunkie

[ZipsBBjunkie]

 

[Illini Zip]

5 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

What's overlooked is we're about to lose @Illini Zip

You think you all are going to get rid of me that easily. Ha!! I’m not enjoying this situation one bit, but will address my fandom if or when something comes of it. Go Zips!!

 

 

Edited Saturday at 08:35 PM by Illini Zip

[Westie]

3 minutes ago, ZipsBBjunkie said:

Westin catch up 

Thanks for the tip and the typo.
Missed it above 
 

 

Edited Saturday at 08:37 PM by Westie

[ZipsBBjunkie]

😂😂😂

[AkronAlumnus]

Feels like the most lateral of laterals.  Yeah they don't have FBS ball but I was just in "low country," Citadel has more of a presence in the city than CoC.  MAC > CAA

[NWAkron]

John's Next Endeavor.  Full stop.

[Reslife4Life]

11 minutes ago, AkronAlumnus said:

Feels like the most lateral of laterals.  Yeah they don't have FBS ball but I was just in "low country," Citadel has more of a presence in the city than CoC.  MAC > CAA

Top tier mid major job to another top tier major job, still holding out that he stays. But even if he does, how many times can we keep doing this?

[AkronAlumnus]

2 minutes ago, Reslife4Life said:

Top tier mid major job to another top tier major job, still holding out that he stays. But even if he does, how many times can we keep doing this?

I think it's smoke but we shall see.

[mrelegazna]

I dunno man. This doesn't feel lateral to me, but a slight step down.  The Coastal is just as much a one-bid league as the MAC is, and he'd be moving from an elite mid-major to a pretty good mid-major.  Yes, it does seem like CofC can pay him more, but I dunno...is this really the first time in his tenure someone has offered him more money to go elsewhere?

With Dambrot, it was "I want to coach in a league that can get more than one bid," but assuming a) Groce doesn't feel that way and b) he isn't a lot more bullish on the CAA than I am, I really don't understand why he would do this.

I've always sort of thought that I'm not going to hold it against an Akron coach if he leaves for a high major, but for the second time in a row (if it happens), this is not that, and just like I rooted against Dambrot and Duquesne I'm gonna root against Groce and CofC if this comes to pass.

[a-zip]

This would be an insult

[Zippy87]

3 minutes ago, mrelegazna said:

I dunno man. This doesn't feel lateral to me, but a slight step down.  The Coastal is just as much a one-bid league as the MAC is, and he'd be moving from an elite mid-major to a pretty good mid-major.  Yes, it does seem like CofC can pay him more, but I dunno...is this really the first time in his tenure someone has offered him more money to go elsewhere?

With Dambrot, it was "I want to coach in a league that can get more than one bid," but assuming a) Groce doesn't feel that way and b) he isn't a lot more bullish on the CAA than I am, I really don't understand why he would do this.

I've always sort of thought that I'm not going to hold it against an Akron coach if he leaves for a high major, but for the second time in a row (if it happens), this is not that, and just like I rooted against Dambrot and Duquesne I'm gonna root against Groce and CofC if this comes to pass.

 

Dambrot at least had strong personal ties to his destination. This would be a tough pill to swallow.

 

But we will see what happens. 

[Zippy87]

IF Groce leaves and IF Ford takes over, it will be fascinating to see what guys like Sharron and Eric do. 

[AkronAlumnus]

Not as bullish on Ford as most of you.  I have a guy in mind - if it comes to it, haha 

[ZipsBBjunkie]

Not glaring only $1M more in the budget. I would have expected a larger differential.