No Bowling This Year.

[GP1]

3 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

My original comment, the one you responded to, clearly stated that they will end up going pro in something other than football. If after their college eligibility dries up and they need to find a new profession, what I said would still be factually accurate. The only way it wouldn't be is if they're able to make enough from football to retire.

 

You can claim that they're professionals now, but they will still need to become professional in something else long-term. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Ok, why do they need a college degree to become a professional in something else? Why aren't we all professionals at whatever job we do. I expect the manager at an Arby's to be a professional even though that person may not have a college degree. 

[kreed5120]

3 minutes ago, GP1 said:

Ok, why do they need a college degree to become a professional in something else? Why aren't we all professionals at whatever job we do. I expect the manager at an Arby's to be a professional even though that person may not have a college degree. 

 

Many professions require college degrees. Many even require continuing education after obtaining a degree. You act like that's abnormal. 

[GP1]

1 hour ago, kreed5120 said:

 

Many professions require college degrees. Many even require continuing education after obtaining a degree. You act like that's abnormal. 

Many don't. Life is full of choices. They are adults. 

[clarkwgriswold]

19 minutes ago, GP1 said:

Many don't. Life is full of choices. They are adults. 

 

Very young, very sheltered spoiled adults who have had smoke blown up their asses since they played pee-wee football.

[clarkwgriswold]

Nemer says plan is in place to handle the situation-

 

https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/sports/college/zips/2025/05/08/akron-zips-president-rj-nemer-football-academic-scores-apr-ineligible-for-bowl-game-2025/83517983007/

[kreed5120]

41 minutes ago, GP1 said:

Many don't. Life is full of choices. They are adults. 

 

Take your complaint up with the NCAA.

 

Edit: Part of being an adult is complying with what your employer instructs. If my boss told me that they need me to be in the office and I tell them I'm not going I'm quickly going to need another job. Part of their job is to attend class. They aren't holding up to their part of the bargain. They're failing to behave like adults.

Edited 19 hours ago by kreed5120

[kreed5120]

8 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said:

Nemer says plan is in place to handle the situation-

 

https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/sports/college/zips/2025/05/08/akron-zips-president-rj-nemer-football-academic-scores-apr-ineligible-for-bowl-game-2025/83517983007/

 

Thanks for sharing. This kind of confirms what I shared yesterday. This will end up being a 2 year ban minimum as it will take both this year and next to cycle out that 2021-2022 score. 

[GP1]

20 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said:

 

Very young, very sheltered spoiled adults who have had smoke blown up their asses since they played pee-wee football.

Maybe some.

[GP1]

11 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

Take your complaint up with the NCAA.

I'm not that interested in talking to the problem. 

[GP1]

13 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

Take your complaint up with the NCAA.

 

Edit: Part of being an adult is complying with what your employer instructs. If my boss told me that they need me to be in the office and I tell them I'm not going I'm quickly going to need another job. Part of their job is to attend class. They aren't holding up to their part of the bargain. They're failing to behave like adults.

What if you boss told you you couldn't fart for 8 hours then required you to eat ten bowls of Raisin Bran?

[clarkwgriswold]

28 minutes ago, GP1 said:

Maybe some.

Likely most.

[kreed5120]

40 minutes ago, GP1 said:

What if you boss told you you couldn't fart for 8 hours then required you to eat ten bowls of Raisin Bran?

 

I would find a new job. These players can do the same if attending class is such a burden. Nobody is forcing them to be here. Perhaps they could work the grill at Arby's until they work themselves up to manager. After all you pointed out earlier no degree is required for that.

Edited 18 hours ago by kreed5120

[GP1]

9 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

I would find a new job. These players can do the same if attending class is such a burden. Nobody is forcing them to be here. Perhaps they could work the grill at Arby's until they work themselves up to manager. After all you pointed out earlier no degree is required for that.

What if your boss had an expectation you didn't want to comply with and you could string them along until just before they fired you, you went to work somewhere else? That's what's going on in college athletics. 

[dre22era]

78% of NFL players are estimated to experience financial difficulties or go bankrupt within two years of retiring.

So spare us from that BS reference. NIL has nothing to do with APR. 

Out of 134 schools we are at the bottom and folks have the nerve to blame NIL. Stop it 

 

[Let'sGoZips94]

Akron's football team scored an 885 during the 2021-22 school year, a 905 in 2022-23 and a 920 in 2023-24.

 

So it has improved every year since JoeMo's first year? It's still not ideal, but at least JoeMo isn't fully complacent. I really hope part of the plan is to challenge the ruling by the NCAA. 

 

LSU and New Mexico State reportedly failed to meet the 930 score during the pandemic pause, but were not penalized.

 

LOL. F the NCAA. They can eat a bag of Kent 💩. If the APR was just reinstated last year, how can there be a 4 year report to fail? That's such horse crap. 

Edited 17 hours ago by Let'sGoZips94

[GP1]

50 minutes ago, dre22era said:

78% of NFL players are estimated to experience financial difficulties or go bankrupt within two years of retiring.

So spare us from that BS reference. NIL has nothing to do with APR. 

Out of 134 schools we are at the bottom and folks have the nerve to blame NIL. Stop it 

 

Who's blaming NIL?  I don't blame NIL. I blame the people who want it to be 1970. 

[kreed5120]

2 hours ago, GP1 said:

What if your boss had an expectation you didn't want to comply with and you could string them along until just before they fired you, you went to work somewhere else? That's what's going on in college athletics. 

 

Attending class and maintaining eligibility is literally in the job description. If it's something they don't want to comply with, they shouldn't apply.

 

They won't be able to transfer "to another job" if they don't maintain grades. Look at all the players over the years that have been forced to do a year of JUCO because they failed to meet academic standards. Erick Howard committing to Akron, but not being able to attend because of grades is one that comes to mind. If you can't meet grades, you will quit getting paid.

[kreed5120]

2 hours ago, dre22era said:

78% of NFL players are estimated to experience financial difficulties or go bankrupt within two years of retiring.

So spare us from that BS reference. NIL has nothing to do with APR. 

Out of 134 schools we are at the bottom and folks have the nerve to blame NIL. Stop it 

 

 

A former Akron football player spending 3 pages arguing how a public University should be able to use tax dollars to subsidize a football team made up of non-student players tells me all I need to know about the culture surrounding the football program. As others stated 'they aren't here to play school.'

 

This isn't the first time Akron football has faced sanctions for poor grades. In the early to mid 2000s on two or three occasions we got hit with scholarship reductions. One was a 4 scholarship reduction another was 5. Bad APR performance has plagued this program for a while. We normally just managed to do well enough to stay above water. With Moorhead now we've yet to even see a season over the 930 so we've just gone from bad to worse.

Edited 15 hours ago by kreed5120

[dre22era]

A college football team is built on who the HC allows. The HC builds the roster. 

The collegiate players are the HC's responsibility. 

On his watch. 

No one else to blame but Morehead. 

Who hires his staff? = Morehead

This is his mess. 

it don't mean crap what happened before him. 

That homer knew what he was getting into when he accepted the job. 

Morehead inherited this program and for $600k a year he was brought here to clean it up. 

Accountability Matters

[GP1]

8 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

 

Attending class and maintaining eligibility is literally in the job description. If it's something they don't want to comply with, they shouldn't apply.

Or they move on to something else. The majority of players in the TP never play sports again. Maybe they drop out of college all together or they continue without sports. I don't know and I don't care. 

 

I don't think this one year ineligibility is the catastrophe some are making it out to be. It may be a blessing because if we can't afford enough academic advisors, how do we afford to send a team to a bowl game? It's a fixable problem and one not worth firing the coach over. If Akron plays like @$$ again next year, then fire the coach. I won't be watching games worrying about whether any of the players attended a single class the week before. 

 

I'm still confused as to why players have to take classes in minor league professional sports. My employer can't force me to perform community service. They can encourage it, but not require. Players should be encouraged to take classes, but it shouldn't be a requirement in the NIL era. Pre-NIL, yes. Today, no. 

[GP1]

4 hours ago, dre22era said:

for $600k a year he was brought here to clean it up. 

What must happen before going to a bowl game? If you guessed winning at least six games, you would be correct. He was brought here to win games. If we wanted a choirboy loser, we could have stuck with Arth. The central problem is, he isn't winning enough games.

 

If Akron wins eight games and the MAC, I'm not concerned that we can't go to a bowl game we really can't afford to go to. Akron could take that success and run with it. If at this time next year, this nonsensical probation is gone and we are winning, all is good. 

[MarkWiley]

Once a kid mentally decides to enter the portal, whether that's actually in December/April or weeks or months before the window opens, there is nothing the program can do to control that kids actions anymore.  If an education is not important to that player, they check out entirely, often not bothering to finish their courses.  There is nothing the program can leverage against the kid to enforce his actions.  Meanwhile, the kids who stay suffer collectively due to their actions.  Once the portal changed, this education requirement should not be enforced.  The programs who are still maintaining the requirements are rich enough to fake it.  The problem isn't all on the kids currently in the program, it's the kids who check out mid semester because they know they are hitting the portal.  

Edited 6 hours ago by MarkWiley

[egregiousbob]

1 hour ago, GP1 said:

If Akron wins eight games and the MAC, I'm not concerned that we can't go to a bowl game we really can't afford to go to. 

 

Akron can't win the MAC this year because it is barred from the league championship game, a point overlooked by the esteemed ABJ writer covering this story.

 

At least we have the, uh, "Action Plan."  That makes it all better.  Can't wait for them to come up with Action Plans for the several other issues ailing the university.  Interesting that Nemer didn't identify a single element of the Plan.  Could it all just be another PR move by the BOT? Likely.

[MarkWiley]

26 minutes ago, egregiousbob said:

 

Akron can't win the MAC this year because it is barred from the league championship game, a point overlooked by the esteemed ABJ writer covering this story.

 

At least we have the, uh, "Action Plan."  That makes it all better.  Can't wait for them to come up with Action Plans for the several other issues ailing the university.  Interesting that Nemer didn't identify a single element of the Plan.  Could it all just be another PR move by the BOT? Likely.

 

Do you have a source for that?  My understanding is Akron can still participate in the Championship.

[UA1996MAENG]

21 hours ago, GP1 said:

What if they aren't dummies at all? What if they simply don't care because if they start to flunk out they can just go to another school?

Even in this anarchy of so-called college football, I don't think an athlete can just fail classes at one university and transfer to another and be eligible to play. Or maybe I'm wrong.  Who knows anymore.