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Other notables have transferred (Ben Speas) before, as long as it doesn't become an epidemic, the Zips will be OK. Perhaps Foldesy didn't feel he fit in. Hard to know what's in the head of a 20 year old. Good luck to him (except when the Hoosiers play the Zips).

From the look of your post(s) I'm guessing said fan was you? I find it bad form to go onto an opponents board and gloat after a tough loss as we would have all been feeling the same way had the same thing happened to the Zips. Losing at home to a hated rival when you were up by nine late in regulation and then by six late in OT? That's a stomach punch loss. Kudos to the Zips for never quitting. I think Jake Kretzer always torturing (torching?) them in their own building is punishment enough. Doesn't look like a domiant team anywhere in the conference so looks like the Zips will likely be in the thick of things once again. I don't think a 14-4 is out of the question. Ohio isn't fabulous but beating them at thier place (only twice in the last 22 MAC games there has that happened, and both were by the Zips) is a good win. Wouldn't count OU out either. Toledo looked like they might be the class of the league but WMU brought the down to earth, but then they they barely beat Miami on the road (but maybe Miami is better). Buffalo is the only other 2-0 team but their two wins are EMU and NIU both at home. Nice start for the Zips to win two on the road. And Ndour looks like he is a helluva player.

The Ball State discussion only started one day before that game and they are a way bigger rival than OU. I think there is a wait and see attitude amongst our fans right now, noty quite sure what to make of this team (and quite frankly, perhaps a litle spoiled by the dominant MAC run of success over the last seven years and yet still not quite reaching the promised land) that may have a lot of folks worried (is this the beginning of the end?). But it's only the second MAC game of the season so no matter what Go Zips!

What does this mean? - as always - Vegas knows more than me.

OK the non conference (and college football)season is over, time to start concentrating on hoops and the conference slate. The Zips currently sit at 125 in the RPI so it likely means once again the MAC tournament is the only thing that can get the Zips into the NCAA tournament, however the conference season is relevant both for other possible tournaments and MAC tournament seeding (which since the tournament seeding was redone is fairly significant). So tomorrow night starts off at Ball State who currently have the MAC's worst record (and we get to play them twice and get Toledo only once and at home so we probably get a bit of a scheduling break there) so this is an important game to start the season. Win it and we get off to a good start (with a game @Ohio looming next), lose it and its an ominous portent. I expect the Zips to win by around 10-15.

Regardless of how this game turns out kind of gratifying to see Florida State burn Auburn on a big play late like Auburn did to a couple of other teams this season. Would like to see the end of the SEC domination (even better having a team in the championship game). Do hate that Florida State "war whoop" though.

Before this topic goes away, I just wanted to say how many times I heard the word Marshall in this game and thought about how much we miss the big guy. I do not wish schedule them any more for a few more years just for that reason.

Great shots liked them all but the one of Harney walking off tbe floor with a bloodied head. Anyone know what happened and how he is? Still stunned that the refs didn't call a foul that the Zips intentionally committed at the end of the game.

I'm assuming you probably meant UCF's quarterback has been projected (in some circles) to go as high as 3rd in the NFL draft. He did not get any votes in the Heisman race. You also may have been thinking that the Zips did indeed face the player who ended up third in the Heisman voting, Jordan Lynch of NIU.

Would you settle for 25 in the second half? Another national game, another giant turd.

What a terrible, terrible week for those associated with Akron football. Story has now been picked up on the ESPN front page. Cannot imagine the grief that Jeff Bowden is feeling. T.J. Bowden was only 23. Prayers to Jeff and the whole Bowden family.

I got both Nate's and Zeke's stats directly from the Men's Basketball Media Guides on GoZips.com, but apparently I copied a few of them wrong. I fixed them, thanks for the update.

I don't think anyone would hate on any these players but I think the belief that Zeke didn't make an immediate contribution is a bit of a myth probably because expectations were so high for him (as opposed to Nate who was a virtual unknown when he was recruited). For fun here are the points and rebound averages for both Nate and Zeke for their first three years. So who's who? Points and rebounds Player 1 --------- 5.3 3.9 5.9 3.8 8.5 4.7 Player 2 --------- 5.1 3.9 8.5 4.9 10.4 5.4 Pretty similar statistics for years 1 and 2 and I think demonstrates that both players made an impact during their first two years. Player 1 is Nate and Player 2 is Zeke. Both of course had awesome senior years.

Loved Linhart, of course there isn't a player on that list that I didn't enjoy watching play, but I think Zeke was head and shoulders (literally and figuratively) above everyone else. The only thing he didn't do that anyone else on this list did was win MAC POY and he should have. But I find your comments on Nate interesting because all of them could apply to Zeke. No distractions at all, productive since a freshman, and a leader most especially in his senior year (just like Nate). My real criteria was that I would show up just to see Zeke play (nobody altered a game quite like he did), I never felt quite that way about Nate.

And stop back in during the 2018-2019 football seasons.

Correct, Boise State will get Iowa State in the championship game, while the Zips will draw South Carolina and then again three days later. Great.

Zips have played a good game but they needed a great game to beat a top 25 team.

Dammit another opposition rainbow three at the halftime buzzer for the second day in a row.

Tragic news, if there was any coach who showed he loved what he did and was as excitable as anyone it was Alan Arrington. R.I.P coach.

Last year's tournament was also run by ESPN and they had a separation on the 1st round winners and losers brackets which would mean we cannot see SMC no matter what now. And for South Carolina, if you don't want to see them twice in a week, root for the opposite to happen to them as what happens for the Zips. Although frankly, seeing them in the Diamond Head championship and then again in a few days would be OK with me. I do not want to see them in the championship consolation and then again three days later.

The finishing dunk was fun too.

Been waiting for one like that. So over the last several years we have wins over Fla. St (ACC), Miss St. (SEC), Big Ten (Penn St) and PAC-12 (Ore St). Biggest conference scalp we are missing is the Big-12. So who do we have next? Iowa St. Hmm.

"FEED THE TREE" Favorite quote of the night.

Other than missing two free throws, got to give Ibitayo some props. And on the Diggs foul on the three, Big Dog got hit on the hand exactly the same way earlier in the game with no foul called. Zips are hanging tough. Helluva game from Pat.

Loved that comment "Refs are letting them play a little" - after 22 fouls have been called.